GeraldWallace#3
Bench
Tyreke Evans, Stephen Curry, Johnny Flynn, Tony Douglas, Nick Calathes, and Patty Mills.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
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CruzDude
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From reports earlier this week, seems Evans & Flynn should be top two. Will be nice to see how they do against each other. Curry seems more a shooting PG or 2-guard, Calathes has agreed to play in Greece I think but might be good draft at 31 and let him work there a year or so. Mills is borderline 1st round and more likely second round. Will anxiously await feedback sunday.
Telemachus
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I'm not big on Tony Douglas, but it generally looks like a good group. I hope they'll focus on stuff that shows what those guys would be like as PGs, that'd be a lot more useful than seeing how they do at taking uncontested shots.
MassachusettsKingsFan
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I hope they give us some video from this. Im still wondering why this is our only ( and last ) look at curry.
=LarryLegend=
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Johnny Flynn vs Patrick Mills is going to be sick!!!
Would you guys be ok with Flynn wearing Bibbys number 10?
Would you guys be ok with Flynn wearing Bibbys number 10?
Telemachus
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I wouldn't have a problem with it. Bibby was a nice player while here in Sac, but didn't do nearly enough to get his # retired.
kennadog
Dog On It!
I don't have a problem with him wearing 10, if that's what he wants. It's not like the Kings are likely to retire it.
Sptsjunkie
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From my best understanding, Tony is a good defender. I think having him in the group is good so we can see how some of these guys do offensively against a defensive specialist.
Gary
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Thoughts? hmmmm... Most of these guys aren't even point guards? I wouldn't want to draft any of these guys with the 4th pick.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
I like Douglas. I don't think anybody likes him at #4, but the latter part of the first round, or better yet, the first pick of the 2nd round, you bet.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
Douglas was co-defensive player of the year in his conference. He also can shoot the ball. I'd really like to see go up against Curry. Wouldn't surprise me if he outshined him.
Sptsjunkie
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He sounds intriguing. Does he have any ability to penetrate or finish at the rim. I'm guessing not too much or we would be talking about him earlier in the first round. However, could be a worthwhile gamble late. We could use a feisty defensive minded point guard. Although, if we do draft a PG early, I would not be surprised to see Petrie snag Heytvelt with 31.
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Aenadin
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which is why im against drafting him..
we need a point guard a flat out good point guard not another scorer who wont pass the ball
bajaden
Hall of Famer
I'm curious why you don't think he's a good athlete. Even at the combine he scored well in the lateral quickness drills and the speed drills. His vertical was the only thing that was average at best for a small man. He was a very good defender in college. My only problem with him is that I don't think he's a point guard, which leaves him a tad small for the shooting guard position. Which is why he's not ranked higher. I could see him as a Bobby Jackson type player off the bench. Someone to change the pace a little and defend.
However, I think the Kings have greater needs before that luxury.
MassachusettsKingsFan
All-Star
why do people think Curry wont pass. I dont get it. He averaged 5.6 assists per game with no help at all, take a look at some of the other top point guards in this draft with better teams and see how they passed the ball ..
Holiday - 3.7 assists
Flynn - 6.7
Evans - 3.9
Jennings - 2.3
Rubio ( ACB ) - 6.1
Only Flynn and Rubio had better assist numbers.
Sptsjunkie
Starter
Part of it is that those numbers are misleading. Curry used such a incredibly high number of possessions for his team that his numbers were inflated. Even players like Marbury put up solid assist numbers, but that doesn't mean they are setting up their teammates or are playing like a pure point guard. It just means they dominate the ball and of course some of their passes will turn into assists.
Now I don't think Curry is a ball hog like Marbury, but I agree he will never be a pure PG.
rainmaker
Hall of Famer
There is a difference between someone who has the ability to pass, and someone who is a natural playmaker. I think Curry has the ability to pass, especially when getting triple-teamed at davidson. He often had no choice. It was either pass or force up another shot over 2 or 3 defenders. But personally, I don't think he is a natural playmaker, which would be more of what this team needs. I would rather see Flynn or Rubio running our fastbreak instead of Curry.
Gary
All-Star
Exactly.. Look at Iverson.. Even HE said he wasn't a PG, but he still averages 7 assists? Why? Because he ALWAYS has the ball!!!
You can't really look at the assist numbers for guys that average almost 30ppg because odds are those assists are because they couldn't find a shot for themselves and got a bailout bucket from a teammate.
The counter argument then is that he had ALL the defensive attention and STILL managed to pull out 6 assists a game. Curry is going to be a solid player.
That argument actually proves the opposite point you're trying to make. If he has all the defensive attention (ie a double team and guys sagging off their own men) then it stands to reason that someone is wide open. Getting the ball to that guy shows that he can be a passer when he needs to, but it hardly proves that he can be a playmaker.
Gary
All-Star
Bailout buckets. I can say with almost 100% certainty that 3 of those assists on average per game was Curry passing because he had nothing for himself and it was a catch and shoot from who he passed to.
I don't mind taking a #1 shooter on a team, but nobody in this draft are capable of carrying an NBA team as the #1 option. Because of that a bunch of red flags go off in my head when I see guys like Curry, Teague, or Evans.
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