More hope...... maybe I shouldn't (Rubio rumor)

[Aenadin]

kenny thomas expiring makes some gms salivate add greene to the mix and they will trade down for 4 kt and greene...

 

[Smills91]

Why would they only trade down 1 spot to get him?

$$$ it's roughly 3 million dollar difference over the course of the 4 year rookie deal.

 

[Smills91]

So we are to believe that the Thunder think that Curry is better than Harden? Please. It's very interesting that Curry's stock is supposedly going up during this camp. I'm sure he wows everybody with his shooting when he has nobody defending him.

Chairs and NCAA Div AA ballers are STIFF competition!

 

[hrdboild]

So Rubio is only good for a team that already has a Spaniard on the team? Then why do the Kings want him?

No.

He's an ideal fit because they desperately need a PG and he's the best fit. It works for OKC because they need a SG who can shoot and handle the ball, and Bayless would be a real nice fit as a 3rd guard for them cuz Westbrook can guard two's. Either way as current and future rivals I don't see these teams helping each other out, but its a trade that makes sense.

I don't watch Portland and think "this team desperately needs a PG". Brandon Roy is terrific at setting up his teammates. Rubio can't set up anyone if he doesn't have the ball in his hands and Roy is going to have the ball at least 50% of the time. I suppose losing your sixth man to get a potential starter at PG is an acceptable sacrifice, but I still think Bayless can give them what they need at PG. Their biggest hole last year was at SF. If they can get a decent 3 point shooter at SF to space the floor then defenses can't collapse on Roy in the paint like they do now.

 

[Telemachus]

I don't watch Portland and think "this team desperately needs a PG". Brandon Roy is terrific at setting up his teammates. Rubio can't set up anyone if he doesn't have the ball in his hands and Roy is going to have the ball at least 50% of the time. I suppose losing your sixth man to get a potential starter at PG is an acceptable sacrifice, but I still think Bayless can give them what they need at PG. Their biggest hole last year was at SF. If they can get a decent 3 point shooter at SF to space the floor then defenses can't collapse on Roy in the paint like they do now.

Portland already has Steve Blake and Sergio Rodriguez at PG. They drafted Bayless last year, and Rudy Fernandez can even play a little point. Why would they go after Rubio?

 

[Aenadin]

rubio would want to be in a team where in he fits the role.. and he can automatically start

and after what nate mcmillan did with sergio rodriguez.. you think hed want to be there? sacramento is the best place for him... he can automatically be the so called star..

 

[hrdboild]

Portland already has Steve Blake and Sergio Rodriguez at PG. They drafted Bayless last year, and Rudy Fernandez can even play a little point. Why would they go after Rubio?

That's basically the point I was making. PG isn't really a position of need for them. I can understand if maybe they wanted to keep the Spaniards together (which was what I first posted) but other than that, it doesn't make sense to me either.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

i agree that it would be great if we could get him with the 4th. but i thought he'd be comfortable playing in memphis since marc gasol is there.

Memphis is pretty commited to Mike Conley Jr. as their PG of the future...so they'd have to trade him in order to draft Rubio, because neither one of them wants to ride the bench for one another...nor should they.

 

[AriesMar27]

if anything memphis should try to trade for fernandez and rodriguez, draft rubio and make the spanish team their gimmick to get fans in the seats. trade gay for rudy and sergio then sign pau once he becomes a free agent.

 

[GeraldWallace#3]

Is it just me or do Spanish players hate memphis. First Pau wants to leave, then Juan Carlos Navarro leaves, now Rubio won't even go there.

 

[Bricklayer]

That's basically the point I was making. PG isn't really a position of need for them. I can understand if maybe they wanted to keep the Spaniards together (which was what I first posted) but other than that, it doesn't make sense to me either.

Its no secret that Portalnd considers PG to absolutely be the positon of need, and were looking for one all lastyear. Saying you halready have Blake and rodriguez there is saying nothing more than that you have abackup and a scrub -- neither guy should be starting on a contender, whihc is where they want to go. Its long been the one position wiht the least young talent for them, and if Bayless can't step up, they are definitely in the market, and have the pieces to move almost anywhere.

 

[Bricklayer]

Is it just me or do Spanish players hate memphis. First Pau wants to leave, then Juan Carlos Navarro leaves, now Rubio won't even go there.

I think there is definitely something there, but the odd thing is that they still have Pau's brohter already there. Seems like it would be a built in comfort zone for Rubio, but who knows, maybe the two do not get along.

 

[hrdboild]

See, this makes a lot more sense to me:

The Blazers are "nosing around" to see if they can trade up from their 24th pick and choose Davidson's Stephen Curry. Curry is a point guard whose main weapon is his jumper. Therefore the thinking is that he would be a good fit next to a ball-handling wing such as Brandon Roy.

(link)

Rubio is the type of point guard who's going to need the ball in his hands a lot. Even if they're not happy with their current crop of point guards (and I don't think Bayless has been given much of a chance to prove anything so far) they'd be better off with a shooter than a distributer. Curry is a similar player to Bayless, only a much better shooter.

 

[kennadog]

I think there is definitely something there, but the odd thing is that they still have Pau's brohter already there. Seems like it would be a built in comfort zone for Rubio, but who knows, maybe the two do not get along.

Or maybe Marc Gasol isn't all that happy there either.

 

[Gary]

The website is OregonLive....

well duh... I read that.. It's funny how they don't mention us because if he did drop to #4 Portland wouldn't have a chance.

 

[kennadog]

More Rubio rumors courtesy of a Voison blog post.

One of the more interesting tidbits of information coming out of the pre-draft workouts the last two days in Oakland is word that the agent for Spanish point guard Ricky Rubio is suddenly amenable to participating in interviews and individuals workouts with a select number of teams - the Memphis Grizzlies, Oklahoma City Thunder and Kings. Sources told me that, at this point, Rubio's agent, Dan Fegan, is limiting the visits to the teams with draft picks 2-4. Given the fact that Jrue Holiday and Jonny Flynn are moving up on most mock draft boards, this makes sense. Plus, Rubio didn't play particularly well in his season finale. Holiday is expected to return to Sacramento for a second workout, Tyreke Evans is scheduled to work out here next week, and Flynn shortly thereafter. Since the Kings have been unusually accommodating to the media this year - in the past, the team refused to reveal which prospects were working out, and allowed no media access to the workouts - this should be a very interesting few weeks.

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/archives/022794.html

 

[Aenadin]

if he doesnt want to be draftd by okc and memphis.. i dont understand why he wold work out with those two teams too?

 

[ParniValjak]

if he doesnt want to be draftd by okc and memphis.. i dont understand why he wold work out with those two teams too?

Maybe because Rubio never said anything about not wanting to play for Memphis or OKC. Thats more rumour from sources close to his agent.

 

[Smills91]

if he doesnt want to be draftd by okc and memphis.. i dont understand why he wold work out with those two teams too?

To work with draft and trade scenarios. And to set his value within that realm.

 

[Dime Dropper]

It will be very interesting to hear about Rubios workouts. Will he shoot well enough and come across athletic enough to warrant his draft position?

In this draft, he most likely will. While I love him as a player, he does have weaknesses. If he's not there at 4, I wouldn't break the bank to trade up.

 

[Smills91]

It will be very interesting to hear about Rubios workouts. Will he shoot well enough and come across athletic enough to warrant his draft position?

In this draft, he most likely will. While I love him as a player, he does have weaknesses. If he's not there at 4, I wouldn't break the bank to trade up.

Exactly. I'm really impressed with James Harden and Tyreke Evans. Also, a fan of both Flynn and Holliday. So we'll have some STRONG option at #4, including perhaps, Rubio.

 

[Aenadin]

so our chances of picking him? higher or getting lower?

 

[Smills91]

so our chances of picking him? higher or getting lower?

Probably about the same since the lotto results were known. Unknown.

 

[Aenadin]

thats the best that we can have right now unknown

petrie wont draft another combo guard... book it. hes not going to go through another douby

 

[Aenadin]

heres to rubio coming to work out with the kings first... THEN not continue with memphis and OKC lol

it could happen...

 

[KingKong]

Rubio seeks to clear road to NBA

Apologies if this has been posted. Here's an update on Rubio's buyout and also his alleged reluctance to visit Memphis.

In the meantime, Rubio plans to arrive with his family in the United States on June 13. Rubio has yet to schedule visits with any team, according to the source.
Rubio has already informed teams that he won't do workouts, but he might visit them to meet the front office and owners. The source said if visits happen, they will be to Los Angeles, Oklahoma City and Sacramento -- owners of the first, third and fourth picks in the draft.
The source said it's likely that Rubio and his camp will skip visits to Memphis. The Grizzlies hold the No. 2 pick, but the source said Rubio is leery about playing in Memphis after two other Spanish players -- Pau Gasol and Juan Carlos Navarro -- had bad experiences there.

Link:http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2009/news/story?id=4241929

 

[Dime Dropper]

That's disappointing that he won't workout. I hate when guys do that.

 

[Aenadin]

actually it could work to our advantage..

1. GP has scouted him days before the lottery hence he already knows what the kid is capable of

2. other teams like okc and mem have not even given him the second thought.. not AFTER the lottery... i heard memphis gm went to spain after a few days after the lottery

3. him not working out would not expose his weakness to GP... his weakness that his jumpshot needs work and we all know GP LOVES shooters

4. him not working out for other teams.. means he will not show case his talents for them to get wowed

i hope he doesnt work out for okc and mem

and heres to him being shown the royal treatment by the maloofs... hey joe and gavin give his mom a tour of the casino... let her play one game
and let her "win" enough money for the buy out.. its going to go... like..

i could imagine it could go...

Rubios Mom: Hijo! i acaba de ganar 7 millones de dólares en el casino tragamonedas!

Ricky:
esa es realmente genial! im va a Sacramento!

 

[ParniValjak]

actually it could work to our advantage..

1. GP has scouted him days before the lottery hence he already knows what the kid is capable of

2. other teams like okc and mem have not even given him the second thought.. not AFTER the lottery... i heard memphis gm went to spain after a few days after the lottery

3. him not working out would not expose his weakness to GP... his weakness that his jumpshot needs work and we all know GP LOVES shooters

4. him not working out for other teams.. means he will not show case his talents for them to get wowed

i hope he doesnt work out for okc and mem

and heres to him being shown the royal treatment by the maloofs... hey joe and gavin give his mom a tour of the casino... let her play one game
and let her "win" enough money for the buy out.. its going to go... like..

i could imagine it could go...

Rubios Mom: Hijo! i acaba de ganar 7 millones de dólares en el casino tragamonedas!

Ricky:
esa es realmente genial! im va a Sacramento!

The only problem with that line of thinking is that Petrie is on the record as saying that he will never again pick a player that he doesn't work out. He said it last year and we all know once Petrie makes up his mind about something, there is no changing it.

So unless you hear about Rubio working out for the Kings, there is no way in hell Petrie picks him, even if he is there at pick 4.

 

[Warhawk]

The only problem with that line of thinking is that Petrie is on the record as saying that he will never again pick a player that he doesn't work out. He said it last year and we all know once Petrie makes up his mind about something, there is no changing it.

So unless you hear about Rubio working out for the Kings, there is no way in hell Petrie picks him, even if he is there at pick 4.

So you think if Griffin fell to us we wouldn't draft him because he didn't work out for us?

You think TT is not even in consideration for our coaching job despite not having been a head coach before?

Not everything is so absolute!