Kings active in trade talks?

[treach1976]

So should we assume that Jimmer's trade value is zero? Otherwise an aggressive Pete would have moved him by now. What about USA Today's Sam Amick's report from a while back that 6 teams had interest with 2 of those having serious interest in Jimmer? Just wish the Kings and Jimmer could part ways sooner rather than later.

I don't think it's zero, my guess (completely uneducated) is that either the Kings don't want to give him away for absolutely nothing... he has a bit of value for us as a 5th guard (or 6th if you count Salmons) in case of injury/other trades ocurring, and teams are coming in too low (late 2nd round pick) or a deal has been unofficially struck or they are waiting until the Dec 15 deadline.

 

[pshn80]

So should we assume that Jimmer's trade value is zero? Otherwise an aggressive Pete would have moved him by now. What about USA Today's Sam Amick's report from a while back that 6 teams had interest with 2 of those having serious interest in Jimmer? Just wish the Kings and Jimmer could part ways sooner rather than later.

Patience. He has value and he will be traded probably sooner rather than later. The stars do need to be aligned.

 

[Dime Dropper]

I'd take a 2nd round pick for Jimmer in this years draft. Use it properly and you could easily get a contributor.

 

[Chubbs]

So should we assume that Jimmer's trade value is zero? Otherwise an aggressive Pete would have moved him by now. What about USA Today's Sam Amick's report from a while back that 6 teams had interest with 2 of those having serious interest in Jimmer? Just wish the Kings and Jimmer could part ways sooner rather than later.

That was when he mysteriously entered the rotation briefly. Maybe those teams lost interest again once he got minutes. Speculation on my part, but I don't think we were playing him so coach Malone could see what he can do. I think the FO and coaching staff is well aware of what they have in jimmer.

 

[Uncia03]

So should we assume that Jimmer's trade value is zero? Otherwise an aggressive Pete would have moved him by now. What about USA Today's Sam Amick's report from a while back that 6 teams had interest with 2 of those having serious interest in Jimmer? Just wish the Kings and Jimmer could part ways sooner rather than later.

I think that Jimmer is probably the FO's lowest priority. At the moment he is slated to come off the books at the end of the season and he isn't a large contract.
Their biggest priorities have to be the guys with the large multi-year deals who are not producing on the court. Players like Thornton and Hayes need to be dealt with. My guess is from the FO's perspective these players were assets handed to them when taking over the team and it's their job to see what can be done with them.
It's my guess that the reason we've been seeing Thornton play the last 2 games is to give him some court-time to showcase his abilities in order to work out a trade. Thornton's game last night was exactly what we needed and I hope that he continues to gets the minutes and produce at a good level as it will make working out a trade which helps us all the easier.
Since there really is limited playing time and you can showcase either Jimmer or Thornton, but not both, the priority for playing time has to be on Thornton since he's the highest paid player on the team and if he plays really well for a decent stretch could bring in the best assets. So showcasing him takes priority over showcasing Jimmer.

So I think we keep playing Thornton until some sort of deal is reached and if it turns out that PDA can't get a deal he likes, he might then go and start playing Jimmer those minutes again to either see if Jimmer is worth keeping on a cheap contract next year or if some team wants to take a flyer on him for a 2nd round pick or something.

 

[Uncia03]

I'd take a 2nd round pick for Jimmer in this years draft. Use it properly and you could easily get a contributor.

Yep, there is going to be a lot of talent with potential in the 2nd round this year, if the college kids that can declare end up doing so.

 

[Hadlowe]

I'd take a 2nd round pick for Jimmer in this years draft. Use it properly and you could easily get a contributor.

You have to think that most of the teams willing to give up draft picks for Jimmer are going to be playoff-bound teams looking for scoring off the bench. That would mean we were looking at a late second-rounder. Jimmer may not have much value, but I'd hope to get more than 45th overall pick for him.

 

[Chubbs]

You have to think that most of the teams willing to give up draft picks for Jimmer are going to be playoff-bound teams looking for scoring off the bench. That would mean we were looking at a late second-rounder. Jimmer may not have much value, but I'd hope to get more than 45th overall pick for him.

Don't hold your breath.

 

[Dreadnought]

Don't hold your breath.

Agreed. However, you would think Utah would have at least tried to have made some move by now. This guy is a Tim Tebow/Jeremy Lin-esque cash cow for them.

 

[Hadlowe]

Agreed. However, you would think Utah would have at least tried to have made some move by now. This guy is a Tim Tebow/Jeremy Lin-esque cash cow for them.

Utah doesn't want anything to do with him. He's a divisive player here, and doubly so playing a few miles from the Ute campus. They've tied their hopes to Trey Burke, for better or worse (probably worse). Even if Jimmer is better than Burke, that serves the opposite purpose of getting Utah closer to Parker/Wiggins.

 

[Gary]

Utah doesn't want anything to do with him. He's a divisive player here, and doubly so playing a few miles from the Ute campus. They've tied their hopes to Trey Burke, for better or worse (probably worse). Even if Jimmer is better than Burke, that serves the opposite purpose of getting Utah closer to Parker/Wiggins.

If you were an owner wouldn't you want to bump your attendance, and cash in a down year by adding a popular player? I would.. It would keep the Jazz relevant with their own SLC fans. If it doesn't work then he's gone at the end of the year anyway.

I assume owners aren't hurting for cash like the Maloofs were. So who knows if that even matters to an owner.

 

[bajaden]

Well enlighten big curse king. Who are you talking about when you keep saying we??

Whose this we, paleface? Thought I'd try again... Different audience.

 

[bajaden]

yes. If he was ready he would be playing. If you want to go out and say a guy that hasn't played could be the next big thing. we could make a list of players that would not end in our lifetime.

Not necessarily! Lets say your trying to trade Vasquez, or even IT, the last thing your going to do is bench either one of them and put McCallum in instead. Even if you think that McCallum might be able to help on the defensive end of the floor. But you would do everything possible to get him ready for such a possibility.

 

[bajaden]

Utah doesn't want anything to do with him. He's a divisive player here, and doubly so playing a few miles from the Ute campus. They've tied their hopes to Trey Burke, for better or worse (probably worse). Even if Jimmer is better than Burke, that serves the opposite purpose of getting Utah closer to Parker/Wiggins.

How in the world is Jimmer a divisive player? He doesn't complain. He cheers on his teammates from the bench, and he's well liked by his teammates. If he could go to Utah and win a job in the rotation, more power to him. He's certainly not divisive. Maybe in your mind, or on a forum, but that's not reality.

 

[Bricklayer]

How in the world is Jimmer a divisive player? He doesn't complain. He cheers on his teammates from the bench, and he's well liked by his teammates. If he could go to Utah and win a job in the rotation, more power to him. He's certainly not divisive. Maybe in your mind, or on a forum, but that's not reality.

I actually could see him dividing their fanbase and making things tougher for Burke. I long expected it to go the other way, but I can also see if I were them and expected only marginal oncourt return, I might rather not introduce an element that would turn fans against current players on the team with bigger futures.

 

[Glenn]

How in the world is Jimmer a divisive player? He doesn't complain. He cheers on his teammates from the bench, and he's well liked by his teammates. If he could go to Utah and win a job in the rotation, more power to him. He's certainly not divisive. Maybe in your mind, or on a forum, but that's not reality.

He is divisive to us and by "us" I mean "us." Or he is divisive to "them" meaning the Utah fans.

 

[The_Jamal]

Just looking at people who might have value, here's Ppat's numbers since returning to bench (sans the 3min game he got hurt)

7 games
25 MPG

10.2 PPG
6.7 RPG
53%FG (30-56)
26%3pt (4-15)
1.28 TOV

All in all, very good numbers. Combine him with an IT or GV and you might be able to get another solid young piece to add

 

[Hadlowe]

How in the world is Jimmer a divisive player? He doesn't complain. He cheers on his teammates from the bench, and he's well liked by his teammates. If he could go to Utah and win a job in the rotation, more power to him. He's certainly not divisive. Maybe in your mind, or on a forum, but that's not reality.

Typo in the post. Should be "divisive player there". There are a lot of U of Utah fans that will not root for a BYU alum in the Jazz fanbase and vice versa. And yeah, there would be a lot of pressure to play him over Burke as Burke has looked pretty raw so far in his pro career.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Typo in the post. Should be "divisive player there". There are a lot of U of Utah fans that will not root for a BYU alum in the Jazz fanbase and vice versa. And yeah, there would be a lot of pressure to play him over Burke as Burke has looked pretty raw so far in his pro career.

Hmm. You sure about that? Another what if example,...are there Golden State fans who wouldn't root for a former Cal player on the team, if they happened to be a Stanford fan? I doubt there would be any significant amount of those

 

[Hadlowe]

Hmm. You sure about that? Another what if example,...are there Golden State fans who wouldn't root for a former Cal player on the team, if they happened to be a Stanford fan? I doubt there would be any significant amount of those

I haven't lived in the Bay area but lived a few years in Utah in my misspent youth. The subtleties of Utah/Salt Lake culture are pretty fascinating. The college rivalry there is complicated by the religious divide in the community, so a devout Mormon baller who is also a BYU alum would certainly tweak a portion of the fanbase in a way that Jabari Parker might not.

 

[upinsmoke]

I haven't lived in the Bay area but lived a few years in Utah in my misspent youth. The subtleties of Utah/Salt Lake culture are pretty fascinating. The college rivalry there is complicated by the religious divide in the community, so a devout Mormon baller who is also a BYU alum would certainly tweak a portion of the fanbase in a way that Jabari Parker might not.

But then fire was discovered and it was all downhill from there right?

I KID I KID lol.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Exactly how many ways can youth actually be misspent in Utah?

 

[t-rex]

I haven't lived in the Bay area but lived a few years in Utah in my misspent youth. The subtleties of Utah/Salt Lake culture are pretty fascinating. The college rivalry there is complicated by the religious divide in the community, so a devout Mormon baller who is also a BYU alum would certainly tweak a portion of the fanbase in a way that Jabari Parker might not.

You do know that Jabari Parker is a devout Mormon baller. Just not a BYU alum.

 

[Hadlowe]

You do know that Jabari Parker is a devout Mormon baller. Just not a BYU alum.

Yes. That was kind of my point.

Exactly how many ways can youth actually be misspent in Utah?

Seven.

 

[mac]

He's better? Really? What's the support for that conclusion? The fact that he hasn't been playing?

Me thinks you misunderstood what Glenn meant.

 

[Kingster]

Me thinks you misunderstood what Glenn meant.

Yep. My bad, Glenn. Thanks for the head's up Mac.

 

[Padrino]

Agreed. However, you would think Utah would have at least tried to have made some move by now. This guy is a Tim Tebow/Jeremy Lin-esque cash cow for them.

i think a great many kings fans' view of the nba landscape has been so colored by the cynicism and greed of the maloofs that they've tricked themselves into believing that utah's ownership cares one iota about the temporary cash flow that jimmer fredette might generate. remember, this is the team that traded their all-star PG, deron williams, just because he drove jerry sloan to an early retirement...

as a franchise, they're a loyal, principled bunch, and they're certainly not about to trade for jimmer fredette simply because they'll sell a few more jerseys. the jazz clearly now have the long view in mind. they're playing for another high draft pick. if they could see jimmer in their on-court plans, they surely would have made a move already, but they haven't, and i don't suspect they will...

 

[The_Jamal]

How much input do you have on who plays and who doesn’t? Is it Michael Malone’s show to run or do you say, ‘lets give this guy a look to see what we have here’? Pete D'Alessandro: Michael makes the call on the floor and always will. I have an incredible amount of respect for his decision-making. The thing I really think is unique to us, I think is the respect we pay each other. We speak multiple times a day. We sit right next to each other all day long. I seek his council for player decisions and he seeks mine as well. It’s been that type of a partnership. At the end of the day – at 7 o’clock, this is his show right now and that’s it. Cowbell Kingdom - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/sacramento_kings#sthash.GKIZ9ZvN.dpuf

-PDA

Interesting. Seems like Malone has had quite a bit of pull with our player decisions.

 

[LPKingsFan]

How much input do you have on who plays and who doesn’t? Is it Michael Malone’s show to run or do you say, ‘lets give this guy a look to see what we have here’? Pete D'Alessandro: Michael makes the call on the floor and always will. I have an incredible amount of respect for his decision-making. The thing I really think is unique to us, I think is the respect we pay each other. We speak multiple times a day. We sit right next to each other all day long. I seek his council for player decisions and he seeks mine as well. It’s been that type of a partnership. At the end of the day – at 7 o’clock, this is his show right now and that’s it. Cowbell Kingdom - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/sacramento_kings#sthash.GKIZ9ZvN.dpuf

-PDA

Interesting. Seems like Malone has had quite a bit of pull with our player decisions.

Thanks for sharing, that is interesting. Makes me think more about the Landry signing. Although his age and defensive shortcomings made him a puzzling signing in many respects, I wonder if Malone wanted one of "his guys" from the Warriors that he knew would come in, play hard, and be an ally for him in the locker room. The CW here that Landry was simply PDA's idea and not Malone's would be wrong, if I had to guess.

I'd still rather have Robin Lopez

 

[Chubbs]

Thanks for sharing, that is interesting. Makes me think more about the Landry signing. Although his age and defensive shortcomings made him a puzzling signing in many respects, I wonder if Malone wanted one of "his guys" from the Warriors that he knew would come in, play hard, and be an ally for him in the locker room. The CW here that Landry was simply PDA's idea and not Malone's would be wrong, if I had to guess.

I'd still rather have Robin Lopez

I wonder why he thought he'd need an ally, if that is the case. It was bad enough he brought his dad, he needed a big brother to have his back too? Just a bit strange to take a player that gives you nothing the team needs just to have an ally. And for 4 years!