I don't think it's zero, my guess (completely uneducated) is that either the Kings don't want to give him away for absolutely nothing... he has a bit of value for us as a 5th guard (or 6th if you count Salmons) in case of injury/other trades ocurring, and teams are coming in too low (late 2nd round pick) or a deal has been unofficially struck or they are waiting until the Dec 15 deadline.
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I think that Jimmer is probably the FO's lowest priority. At the moment he is slated to come off the books at the end of the season and he isn't a large contract.
Their biggest priorities have to be the guys with the large multi-year deals who are not producing on the court. Players like Thornton and Hayes need to be dealt with. My guess is from the FO's perspective these players were assets handed to them when taking over the team and it's their job to see what can be done with them.
It's my guess that the reason we've been seeing Thornton play the last 2 games is to give him some court-time to showcase his abilities in order to work out a trade. Thornton's game last night was exactly what we needed and I hope that he continues to gets the minutes and produce at a good level as it will make working out a trade which helps us all the easier.
Since there really is limited playing time and you can showcase either Jimmer or Thornton, but not both, the priority for playing time has to be on Thornton since he's the highest paid player on the team and if he plays really well for a decent stretch could bring in the best assets. So showcasing him takes priority over showcasing Jimmer.
So I think we keep playing Thornton until some sort of deal is reached and if it turns out that PDA can't get a deal he likes, he might then go and start playing Jimmer those minutes again to either see if Jimmer is worth keeping on a cheap contract next year or if some team wants to take a flyer on him for a 2nd round pick or something.
Their biggest priorities have to be the guys with the large multi-year deals who are not producing on the court. Players like Thornton and Hayes need to be dealt with. My guess is from the FO's perspective these players were assets handed to them when taking over the team and it's their job to see what can be done with them.
It's my guess that the reason we've been seeing Thornton play the last 2 games is to give him some court-time to showcase his abilities in order to work out a trade. Thornton's game last night was exactly what we needed and I hope that he continues to gets the minutes and produce at a good level as it will make working out a trade which helps us all the easier.
Since there really is limited playing time and you can showcase either Jimmer or Thornton, but not both, the priority for playing time has to be on Thornton since he's the highest paid player on the team and if he plays really well for a decent stretch could bring in the best assets. So showcasing him takes priority over showcasing Jimmer.
So I think we keep playing Thornton until some sort of deal is reached and if it turns out that PDA can't get a deal he likes, he might then go and start playing Jimmer those minutes again to either see if Jimmer is worth keeping on a cheap contract next year or if some team wants to take a flyer on him for a 2nd round pick or something.
You have to think that most of the teams willing to give up draft picks for Jimmer are going to be playoff-bound teams looking for scoring off the bench. That would mean we were looking at a late second-rounder. Jimmer may not have much value, but I'd hope to get more than 45th overall pick for him.
Utah doesn't want anything to do with him. He's a divisive player here, and doubly so playing a few miles from the Ute campus. They've tied their hopes to Trey Burke, for better or worse (probably worse). Even if Jimmer is better than Burke, that serves the opposite purpose of getting Utah closer to Parker/Wiggins.
If you were an owner wouldn't you want to bump your attendance, and cash in a down year by adding a popular player? I would.. It would keep the Jazz relevant with their own SLC fans. If it doesn't work then he's gone at the end of the year anyway.
I assume owners aren't hurting for cash like the Maloofs were. So who knows if that even matters to an owner.
I assume owners aren't hurting for cash like the Maloofs were. So who knows if that even matters to an owner.
Not necessarily! Lets say your trying to trade Vasquez, or even IT, the last thing your going to do is bench either one of them and put McCallum in instead. Even if you think that McCallum might be able to help on the defensive end of the floor. But you would do everything possible to get him ready for such a possibility.
How in the world is Jimmer a divisive player? He doesn't complain. He cheers on his teammates from the bench, and he's well liked by his teammates. If he could go to Utah and win a job in the rotation, more power to him. He's certainly not divisive. Maybe in your mind, or on a forum, but that's not reality.
I actually could see him dividing their fanbase and making things tougher for Burke. I long expected it to go the other way, but I can also see if I were them and expected only marginal oncourt return, I might rather not introduce an element that would turn fans against current players on the team with bigger futures.
Just looking at people who might have value, here's Ppat's numbers since returning to bench (sans the 3min game he got hurt)
7 games
25 MPG
10.2 PPG
6.7 RPG
53%FG (30-56)
26%3pt (4-15)
1.28 TOV
All in all, very good numbers. Combine him with an IT or GV and you might be able to get another solid young piece to add
7 games
25 MPG
10.2 PPG
6.7 RPG
53%FG (30-56)
26%3pt (4-15)
1.28 TOV
All in all, very good numbers. Combine him with an IT or GV and you might be able to get another solid young piece to add
I haven't lived in the Bay area but lived a few years in Utah in my misspent youth. The subtleties of Utah/Salt Lake culture are pretty fascinating. The college rivalry there is complicated by the religious divide in the community, so a devout Mormon baller who is also a BYU alum would certainly tweak a portion of the fanbase in a way that Jabari Parker might not.
i think a great many kings fans' view of the nba landscape has been so colored by the cynicism and greed of the maloofs that they've tricked themselves into believing that utah's ownership cares one iota about the temporary cash flow that jimmer fredette might generate. remember, this is the team that traded their all-star PG, deron williams, just because he drove jerry sloan to an early retirement...
as a franchise, they're a loyal, principled bunch, and they're certainly not about to trade for jimmer fredette simply because they'll sell a few more jerseys. the jazz clearly now have the long view in mind. they're playing for another high draft pick. if they could see jimmer in their on-court plans, they surely would have made a move already, but they haven't, and i don't suspect they will...
as a franchise, they're a loyal, principled bunch, and they're certainly not about to trade for jimmer fredette simply because they'll sell a few more jerseys. the jazz clearly now have the long view in mind. they're playing for another high draft pick. if they could see jimmer in their on-court plans, they surely would have made a move already, but they haven't, and i don't suspect they will...
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Interesting. Seems like Malone has had quite a bit of pull with our player decisions.
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Interesting. Seems like Malone has had quite a bit of pull with our player decisions.
Thanks for sharing, that is interesting. Makes me think more about the Landry signing. Although his age and defensive shortcomings made him a puzzling signing in many respects, I wonder if Malone wanted one of "his guys" from the Warriors that he knew would come in, play hard, and be an ally for him in the locker room. The CW here that Landry was simply PDA's idea and not Malone's would be wrong, if I had to guess.
I'd still rather have Robin Lopez
I'd still rather have Robin Lopez
Thanks for sharing, that is interesting. Makes me think more about the Landry signing. Although his age and defensive shortcomings made him a puzzling signing in many respects, I wonder if Malone wanted one of "his guys" from the Warriors that he knew would come in, play hard, and be an ally for him in the locker room. The CW here that Landry was simply PDA's idea and not Malone's would be wrong, if I had to guess.
I'd still rather have Robin Lopez
I'd still rather have Robin Lopez
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