It's insane that this is somehow considered a close race. Curry's only argument is statistical, and over his best period he only equaled Tyreke for a half a season while Tyreke dominated the early part. How is it that defense is barely acknowledged other than steal averages, when there's a huge gulf between these players? Then consider that Tyreke has had defenses keying on him since day one, while every time I see a Warrior game Curry seems to be floating around virtually unnoticed by the defense. This shouldn't even need to be debated.
Lets "HELP" Tyreke get ROY!!!!!
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Ian Thomsen defends his awards picks....
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/ian_thomsen/04/16/playoff.guide/1.html
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/ian_thomsen/04/16/playoff.guide/1.html
Heard back from the Detroit guy again (and as this is a simple mesage I hope I am not violating any trust of his by posting it):
Probably about as close as you are going to get to a hit -- I think the point where I asked him if he would have voted for Steph Curry over LeBron James as well given that Reke and LeBron had nearly identical numbers might have gotten him thinking. In any case, kind of all you can do. Doesn't seem like a bad guy. Just wish I had a full list of the voters and I'd have done a one man G.S. PR machine on all of them at once.
I like fans. 
I will admit, you may have convincing argument, but I might have been influenced about how played the best when I saw them. I did look at the stats as well.
I will admit, you may have convincing argument, but I might have been influenced about how played the best when I saw them. I did look at the stats as well.
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Actually, that is not Curry's only argument. The other arguments that I have heard have to do with Don Nelson sabotaging him early in the year and that Curry gets teammates involved. I hear a bit of: I'd rather play with Curry than with Evans. The third argument would be that he is putting up assists with D-Leaguers surrounding him.
Which makes it funny is that Don Nelson is pumping him up now when he could lose the RoY race directly due to Nelson not utilizing him early in the year.
Which makes it funny is that Don Nelson is pumping him up now when he could lose the RoY race directly due to Nelson not utilizing him early in the year.
What bugs me is no one I've read takes into account the difference in defense the opponents played against Evans or Curry. And they never compare the defense of the three rookies, like it doesn't matter at all.
Jennings had a flat out better team than either Evans or Curry. (Not to mention they are only in the playoffs, because they're in the East.)
Jennings had a flat out better team than either Evans or Curry. (Not to mention they are only in the playoffs, because they're in the East.
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What bugs me is no one I've read takes into account the difference in defense the opponents played against Evans or Curry. And they never compare the defense of the three rookies, like it doesn't matter at all.
Jennings had a flat out better team than either Evans or Curry. (Not to mention they are only in the playoffs, because they're in the East.)
Jennings had a flat out better team than either Evans or Curry. (Not to mention they are only in the playoffs, because they're in the East.
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If Jennings gets ANY first place ROY votes, he should tithe ten percent of his salary to John Salmons. If making the playoffs had anything to do with it, then the ROY should be Taj Gibson... To say nothing of the fact that the NBA would then need to go back and retroactively award the ROY to other unremarkable rookies who made the playoffs.
Hahaha look at the first post on the 15th page and then read down: http://www.goldenstwarriors.com/viewtopic.php?t=8985&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=210
Yeah, you Warriors fans. My lurking has caught you lurking on our forums... Now get outta here with your BS arguments! " They should get co-rookie of the year because they have both had great seasons" hahaha might as well give MVP to Lebron and Durant, they have both had great seasons!
It's also funny to see how on every forum there are those who think the NBA hates them, they are the unluckiest team in the NBA, etc. etc.
Yeah, you Warriors fans. My lurking has caught you lurking on our forums... Now get outta here with your BS arguments! " They should get co-rookie of the year because they have both had great seasons" hahaha might as well give MVP to Lebron and Durant, they have both had great seasons!
It's also funny to see how on every forum there are those who think the NBA hates them, they are the unluckiest team in the NBA, etc. etc.
The thing that these Warriors fans don't get is we are not "worried" about Curry because he is more desering or better than Tyreke. I think a lot of people here already stated and re-stated the facts of why Tyreke had a better rookie season and will be a better player in their careers.
The thing that has some Kings fans "worried" is if the NBA turns this ROY award into a 2002 western conference finals type of thing.
But I don't think it'll happen that way this time. The NBA knows what type of player Tyreke is. I expect Kings fans to have the last laugh later on TODAY when the award is announced!!!
as far as i see it, if rookie of the year is decided by wins then brandon jennings is the choice and if it's decided by stats then obviously it's going to be reke. so what criteria would a voter have to vote for curry over jennings or evans? just curious...
this better not be a close vote because those not voting for reke are voting AGAINST history and they would lose all credibility in my mind
this better not be a close vote because those not voting for reke are voting AGAINST history and they would lose all credibility in my mind
If you vote based on Game 1 of the playoffs, BJ gets it. If you vote on the last month of the season Curry wins. If you vote based in reality, you have to vote for Evans. Curry stunk up the warriors for weeks before he started to perform. Jennings has Bogut to dump the ball to and get 100% buckets, tyreke has hawes for those. If we get a finisher, tyrekes assists go up by like 1.5 a game. He is the top scorer, top 3 rebs, top 3 assists, top minutes, most highlight plays. Its hard to argue he isn't a shoe in for the NBA ROY.
Wow, some of the arguments on the warriors forum are really weak and stupid:
How is that a weak argument? Having LBJ (the best player in the world today) guard Tyreke says just how much respect they have for Tyreke's game. Delonte West guards Curry because Cavs don't think Curry is as big a threat that LBJ needs to guard him.
Yeah, I don't think being only the 4th player to average 20-5-5 in his rookie year and joining Oscar Robertson, Michael Jordan, and Lebron James (some of the greatest superstars the game has ever known) isn't enough indication that Reke has superstar potential.
How is that a weak argument? Having LBJ (the best player in the world today) guard Tyreke says just how much respect they have for Tyreke's game. Delonte West guards Curry because Cavs don't think Curry is as big a threat that LBJ needs to guard him.
Yeah, I don't think being only the 4th player to average 20-5-5 in his rookie year and joining Oscar Robertson, Michael Jordan, and Lebron James (some of the greatest superstars the game has ever known) isn't enough indication that Reke has superstar potential.
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Hahaha look at the first post on the 15th page and then read down: http://www.goldenstwarriors.com/viewtopic.php?t=8985&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=210
Yeah, you Warriors fans. My lurking has caught you lurking on our forums... Now get outta here with your BS arguments! " They should get co-rookie of the year because they have both had great seasons" hahaha might as well give MVP to Lebron and Durant, they have both had great seasons!
It's also funny to see how on every forum there are those who think the NBA hates them, they are the unluckiest team in the NBA, etc. etc.
Yeah, you Warriors fans. My lurking has caught you lurking on our forums... Now get outta here with your BS arguments! " They should get co-rookie of the year because they have both had great seasons" hahaha might as well give MVP to Lebron and Durant, they have both had great seasons!
It's also funny to see how on every forum there are those who think the NBA hates them, they are the unluckiest team in the NBA, etc. etc.
In fact, I wouldn't be too upset even if Tyreke didn't win ROY. Obviously it's important with regards to hype and the money that brings in for the franchise, but in a few years, it won't matter.
I do wonder if them saying PPG would be the tie-break had any influence in the final voting - it could be seen as either a nudge that "we think ppg is more important than all the advanced metrics of the Curry jockers" or a notice to the Curry backers that their guy isn't going to get a co-ROY so you better do everything in your power to influence anyone with a vote.
According to Scott-Howard-Cooper's Twitter
"GSW PR push for ROY continues to impact: 1 more voter convinced to switch Evans to Curry. My small sample shows at least 11pt swing to Steph"
!!!!!!!!!!! How is it that the damn PR peeps are still impacting the vote?? The deadline came and went. Is the NBA bending the rules to let them change votes... hence thats why the ROY announcement is pushed back?!?!? This is insane!!!
"GSW PR push for ROY continues to impact: 1 more voter convinced to switch Evans to Curry. My small sample shows at least 11pt swing to Steph"
!!!!!!!!!!! How is it that the damn PR peeps are still impacting the vote?? The deadline came and went. Is the NBA bending the rules to let them change votes... hence thats why the ROY announcement is pushed back?!?!? This is insane!!!
