[Game] Kings v. Trailblazers - Monday, Jan. 14 - 7PT/10ET

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kingsboi

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Tetsujin said:
Harry Giles's potential is absolutely insane. You can absolutely see why scouts thought he was a better prospect that KAT. Even without whatever athleticism the leg injuries cost him, he's still going to be an absolute monster.
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really makes you scratch your head on why he dropped to 20 when the talent was clearly there, I'm not a scout and I saw it
 
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The Hammer

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Capt. Factorial said:
BBRef has those sort of breakdowns. This year WCS is shooting .296 from 3-10 feet, which is not at all good, and he has been progressively getting worse from that range over his career.
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Interesting, and thanks. The downward trend confirms my eyes. He's developed little to no actual post game other than finishing on pick n rolls, lobs, etc. over the four years. I just don't see how he's a starter on this team long term. Giles has a better post game than Willie at this point.
 
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kingsboi said:
really makes you scratch your head on why he dropped to 20 when the talent was clearly there, I'm not a scout and I saw it
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He was an absolute shell in college. Just wasn't healthy, didn't really show any of the ability he had in high school. Drafting him was a bet that he could regain any of the talent he showed in high school.

Thankfully for us, it looks like he did.
 
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kingsboi said:
really makes you scratch your head on why he dropped to 20 when the talent was clearly there, I'm not a scout and I saw it
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Big men with bad knees is a scary thing to teams. For good historical reasons. After Embiid and now Giles, more teams may start taking that risk. Sitting the player out a year to rehab.
 
Tetsujin

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Capt. Factorial said:
It was the question about the knees.
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Embiid went third in his draft despite having a bevy of injuries in college and breaking his foot during the draft process.

I agree that people being concerned about having an Oden situation on their hands had a hand in Harry falling but it's not like teams have been particularly averse to drafting injury concerns high in the draft.
 
SacTownKid

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OK, we've seen the real Willie the last few sequences on both ends. When he can be a floor runner and finisher he's a 100 million dollar man. When he can be that type of defender on smaller players maybe more.
 
Capt. Factorial

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kingsboi said:
I get that. I see teams take gambles all the time when talent like that is on the board though.
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Yeah, but Porter fell from a sure top-5 player to, what, 15th this year on similar questions. Seems to be a similar range. I mean, had you asked me before the draft I'd have figured somebody would have taken a chance on Giles in sort of the 12-16 range, but 20 isn't shocking to me for a talented player with significant injury risk.
 
kingsboi

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The_Jamal said:
He was an absolute shell in college. Just wasn't healthy, didn't really show any of the ability he had in high school. Drafting him was a bet that he could regain any of the talent he showed in high school.

Thankfully for us, it looks like he did.
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Coach K had him play a specific role at Duke, which is why he couldn't show off his skill too much.
 
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