If the last two seasons have taught us anything, it's that it never hurts to have Derrick Rose insurance.
Kings active in trade talks?
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Bricklayer
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That's actually why he would be a problem. Vasquez isn't going to stick around in Chicago to be a backup, and Chicago wouldn't want to pay him what it took to make that happen anyway. So the best guy (pending MT pulling his head out) you are sending them for a young guy they like, is surely going to leave next year, and they won't get anything out of it. At least if Greivis was on a 2 yr deal they could trade him over the summer to recover value.
Hadlowe
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Ah, misunderstood what you meant, then.
Bricklayer
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I have often been accused of not liking Isaiah, which may even be true to some degree. Selfish gunners are not my thing. But the idea that we would throw him in to get a guy like Taj Gibson..at a certain point you really do have to look at the numbers here and realize that 18ppg scorers don't grow on trees, and that he's quite good in his current role.
Good call. Forgot about Parsons. Either way, he's in line for a likely $8mil+ deal. SF has tremendous talent at the top, but it's incredibly weak in depth. Heck, Parsons might be a top 10 SF already. Hou actually has him for 900k next season too.
Either way, I agree on his value. If u can get of Hayes or thornton and get a quality player future player back, perhaps that would be worth it. Idk what that player would look like though
Kingsfan23
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Their scrubs, and those are usually hard to get value for as they arguably have negative value. I already anticipate seeing both of their mugs for another year unless they are a part of a larger package that sees us giving up a little bit of value. Of course this is all if they don't start playing noticeably better
Livinthedream
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Ray Mccallum was just recalled from Reno. Does that mean IT is getting traded? ....fuel for the fire.....
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More likely, it means that Fredette is.
Livinthedream
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Maybe it's Jimmer that would be next in line. However, you have to give something of value to receive value in return. I'm not anticipating an IT trade, but it wouldn't shock me if it happened .
chasen4r1
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I'd be very surprised to see IT traded. I think this ownership group/front office likes him too much. If i remember correctly, he was always mentioned with DMC as the leaders of the team and the young players they liked.
ShastaKingsFan
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If you go by the thought that the only real 'moveable' valuable assets we had/have are Moute and IT, then it's certainly very possible. I hope we can keep him though. Just an awesome 6th man intangible
Padrino
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i don't think they would, either, but kings fans should probably brace themselves for the likelihood that the new regime considers no king untouchable outside of demarcus cousins and ben mclemore. and i simply do not believe that isaiah thomas will have a future in sacramento as a starter. IT is planted rather firmly in the sixth man role, given that his ball dominant nature distracts from what the new regime is attempting to build with cousins and mclemore as it's starting points for a rebuild...
that said, the question the kings' front office has to answer is whether or not they'd like to have their 6th man role cemented for the next several years, or if they'd rather pursue a starter-quality talent using thomas as trade bait. the size of IT's contract is scant, but when packaged with a larger contract, he becomes the centerpiece of any trade, especially if he continues to perform so well. he's an asset, and a tremendously movable one. i like him in his 6th man role, and i hope he sticks around, but i'd hardly assume that he won't be traded, at this point...
Rockmeister
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Well, considering our next game is Friday and its a day before Thanksgiving, I doubt anything will happen.
I think that if they trade Jimmer, it's for a pick. If they trade GV, then we are looking at acquiring a piece.....and the same goes for IT. I do think that they will clear out a spot for Ray. They are invested in the kid and he's one of their picks......I also think he's going to be solid.
Bballkingsrock
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Maybe a Butler and Nazr for Thornton and IT trade?
Glenn
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You don't recall someone who was getting playing time in Reno to plunk him at the end of the bench and not play. Perhaps I should have written that I wouldn't recall someone blah, blah, blah
LPKingsFan
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Interesting. Waiters for Deng makes sense for both teams--Bulls will probably lose Deng after this year anyway, and this year is a lost season without Rose. Why not get a potential SG of the future? The Cavs, meanwhile, want to win now, and Waiters and Irving supposedly don't get along.
Kings could facilitate by sending Salmons' expiring to Bulls--we'd have to take someone from Cleveland to match, maybe Varejao? Seems like we'd be getting a lot of value, though. Sending, say, a Jimmer or Patterson to Chicago or Cleveland likely wouldn't be enough.
Knicks need a big man, Bulls probably a PG and then Philly makes sense for a young SG......the Bulls one struck me as one of interest since they need a PG and we could possibly trade one of ours to help facilitate a deal. The Knicks would be interested in one of our bigs in PPat or JT possibly.
Bricklayer
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Entity
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Ray + ?? mayberookie 2nd round picks in the D-league don't tend to bring much back in return
Kingsfan23
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If they move IT at this juncture I think it will be for 1 primary reason - to make a run at beating out utah/Milwaukee etc and completing the tank. Besides cousins , IT is the only king that changes the complexion of games in a positive fashion
Personally I don't think he's going anywhere, as legit 6th men of year candidates who are loved throughout the organization are usuAlly hard to get equal value for
Personally I don't think he's going anywhere, as legit 6th men of year candidates who are loved throughout the organization are usuAlly hard to get equal value for
Glenn
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I agree with both points. When McCallum was drafted instead of a big guy, I thought he was meant to take IT's place. Whether that is a fact I don't know but I thought it odd we drafted a pg. Now there are question marks around Vasquez. I could very well see the team packaging IT with another player to upgrade at another position, hopefully a defensive presence near the rim. IT has value and I am sure not just to us. In the end, I think the "shot blocker" type is more valuable than IT especially if it furthers the tank by weakening us for just one year.
It's all speculation, isn't it?
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