Kings active in trade talks?
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I don't know where the fascination with Snell comes from for many people.
He's not similar to Batum except in body type. He absolutely doesn't have a better jumper than Batum had at the same age. Nor is he a better ball-handler, passer, defender or rebounder than Batum was at the same age. And I'm hardly a massive Batum fan, I view him as an excellent role player but nothing more. I'll be extremely surprised if Snell ever amounts to anything significant in the NBA.
He's not similar to Batum except in body type. He absolutely doesn't have a better jumper than Batum had at the same age. Nor is he a better ball-handler, passer, defender or rebounder than Batum was at the same age. And I'm hardly a massive Batum fan, I view him as an excellent role player but nothing more. I'll be extremely surprised if Snell ever amounts to anything significant in the NBA.
Who we trade probably as a lot to do with who the other team is asking for. It's not like we can line up our players in some sort of trade order, and then dispose of them in that order. We may have wanted to trade Hayes for D. Will, but maybe Minny wanted Mbah a Moute instead. We may want to trade Jimmer, but the other team wants IT, or maybe its McCallum as a throw in to some other trade. To be honest, its usually easy to figure out who's going, but with this team, it could be anyone.
Probably all depends on how much money IT wants in his new contract. I'm sure the Kings are having some kind of conversation with IT's agent in order to get a feel for where everything stands. Just because we think he's a hell of a talent, doesn't mean the Kings brain trust puts the same financial value on him that we do. Personally, I hope we keep him. But the price has to be reasonable. I see them making the qualifying offer, and then waiting to see what kind of offers IT gets. Very similar to Tyreke. That is of course unless they get an offer for him that they can't refuse. For instance, lets say the Kings are still interested in Tony Snell. The Bulls could offer Snell, and one of their two first round picks in this next draft. If the Kings believe that McCallum can fill in the void, and that perhaps IT is going to demand too much on the open market, I could see them making that deal rather than get nothing for IT, similar to the Tyreke deal.
Kidd-Gilchrist would be a fantastic get for us. He's a super-athletic ball of clay just waiting to be molded.
Cleveland and Charlotte also house the two front-offices that I would feel confident about swindling in a deal too. Disastrous decision making that manages to challenge if not trump our personnel history.
Cleveland and Charlotte also house the two front-offices that I would feel confident about swindling in a deal too. Disastrous decision making that manages to challenge if not trump our personnel history.
And that's exactly what I want him to do. People used to cry like babies that Petrie didn't try hard enough to make trades. Now we've got someone picking up the phone and making the calls and people are still whining?
I'm going to give PDA the benefit of the doubt until I have good reason not to. I'm just tired of always looking for something to be negative about.
I'm going to give PDA the benefit of the doubt until I have good reason not to. I'm just tired of always looking for something to be negative about.
I'm a big Jeffery Taylor fan. If were looking to get more athletic, then you can't get more athletic than Taylor, who is a very very good outside shooter. Good height at 6'7" to play the SF position. Only knock on him is that he doesn't have a very big wingspan. However, he does have a 40 inch vertical, and runs the court like a gazelle.
Yeah, right. More likely, if Thomas gets traded, it means one of two things:
- He and/or his agent believe he's a #2 option (he isn't), and made it clear to D'Alessandro that he's going to want to get paid #2 option money next season, and the front office doesn't agree, or
- They really, really want to trade for a guy, and their prospective trade partner said something to the effect of, "Throw in Thomas, or no deal."
This is all opinion so I'll give my 2 cents, not saying I'm right or wrong
1. We are only 13 games into a season in which his game has been elevated, I would think that it has been to short of a time span.. Also, in assessing his market value worth, there is really only one other 5'9 bench spark plug combo guard, who balled in Chicago last year and was a big reason for the Bulls making it past the first round, and he managed to only get a two year deal at roughly 4 million from Denver on the open market. Obviously Isaiah younger and playing at a higher level, but still I don't know who would be looking to pay him franchise type cash. Although, with that being said who knows what's going on behind closed doors
3. I agree that if the Kings make a trade it will be for someone who they want. I will however be surprised if it is someone who makes them immediately better. I would be surprised and frankly not cool with it as a fan if they brought in veterans like Deng or Noah or someone who is going to give this team 5-7 more wins when the writing on the wall is clear about what I think should be the objective of this season. I also think that was part o the impetus for the Williams trade aside from wanting to give him a look
1. We are only 13 games into a season in which his game has been elevated, I would think that it has been to short of a time span.. Also, in assessing his market value worth, there is really only one other 5'9 bench spark plug combo guard, who balled in Chicago last year and was a big reason for the Bulls making it past the first round, and he managed to only get a two year deal at roughly 4 million from Denver on the open market. Obviously Isaiah younger and playing at a higher level, but still I don't know who would be looking to pay him franchise type cash. Although, with that being said who knows what's going on behind closed doors
3. I agree that if the Kings make a trade it will be for someone who they want. I will however be surprised if it is someone who makes them immediately better. I would be surprised and frankly not cool with it as a fan if they brought in veterans like Deng or Noah or someone who is going to give this team 5-7 more wins when the writing on the wall is clear about what I think should be the objective of this season. I also think that was part o the impetus for the Williams trade aside from wanting to give him a look
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Amir Johnson/Kyle Lowry is another package I would love to look at for something including Vasquez (to actually pass the ball to Big V) with Patterson and maybe Jimmer, Raptors want to tank and they got 3 expiring deals, we get a semi head case to play next to Cousins but fits well and a elite defender who can shoot and get into the lane would love me some Kyle Lowry
PG: Lowry
SG: #M16
SF: D-Will
PF: Amir
C: Cousins
That's crazy athletic ability there with two good defenders and all of them can chip in on offense only concern would be IQ level but they all young and should improve it that regard. We also get two guys with mean streaks as well who are not afraid to mix it up.
PG: Lowry
SG: #M16
SF: D-Will
PF: Amir
C: Cousins
That's crazy athletic ability there with two good defenders and all of them can chip in on offense only concern would be IQ level but they all young and should improve it that regard. We also get two guys with mean streaks as well who are not afraid to mix it up.
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You'd say no if Cleveland would do that trade? I'm glad you are not our GM. JT and MT have almost $28 million on their contracts after this season. MT has another year after this one, JT has 4 more. Varejao has a team option after this one, and Waiters has 4 million due next year, then there's a team option for the next one.
Then, Thornton is completely useless for us and he doesn't have any trade value. Waiters could be a valuable piece for other teams if we decide not to keep him. And with his rookie contract he will be much easier to move.
In other words, you get 2 players that are better than our 2, while dumping almost 24 million in guaranteed contracts.
Yes, definitely no way...
Then, Thornton is completely useless for us and he doesn't have any trade value. Waiters could be a valuable piece for other teams if we decide not to keep him. And with his rookie contract he will be much easier to move.
In other words, you get 2 players that are better than our 2, while dumping almost 24 million in guaranteed contracts.
Yes, definitely no way...
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