Tyreke Evans VS Tony Parker

#1
With all the talk about how unstoppable Tyreke will be when he develops a jumpshot, I want to pose this question. How is Tyreke different and more superstar-like than Tony Parker, who similarly gets into the paint at will and has a fairly respectable outside game? Is it only size that separates the 2? Why then, is Tyreke Evans a superstar in the making (based on his skill set) while Tony Parker does not have superstar status?

Thoughts?
 
#2
With all the talk about how unstoppable Tyreke will be when he develops a jumpshot, I want to pose this question. How is Tyreke different and more superstar-like than Tony Parker, who similarly gets into the paint at will and has a fairly respectable outside game? Is it only size that separates the 2? Why then, is Tyreke Evans a superstar in the making (based on his skill set) while Tony Parker does not have superstar status?

Thoughts?

Tyreke Demands the other team double him... parker doesnt thats it...

Tyreke also plays better D than Parker and can rebound at his position.

the advantages of parker would be his speed and his coaching and the quality of players around him.

Parker flourishes in a system that a good coach has devised and plays along side a hall of famer.
other than his speed. tyreke can pummel any point guard into submission. parker breaks down his man with his speed and smart picks... tyreke breaks them down with handles and speed. he also bulls his way inside drawing fouls so i'd say the only way to stop a veteran reke would be to foul him

the reason why parker isnt touted as a superstar is because he's like any other point guard out there, if he had the defensive prowess of paul and the shooting of a guy like curry or bibby maybe. but he's ur typical speed point guard. Tyreke is a freak versatility wise he can play 1, 2, possibly 3, the size difference as you said is astounding reke's got those long arms and that body that will bounce off the other point guards hence he is a walking mismatch.
 
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#3
Tyreke Demands the other team double him... parker doesnt thats it...

Tyreke also plays better D than Parker and can rebound at his position.

the advantages of parker would be his speed and his coaching and the quality of players around him.

Parker flourishes in a system that a good coach has devised and plays along side a hall of famer.
other than his speed. tyreke can pummel any point guard into submission. parker breaks down his man with his speed and smart picks... tyreke breaks them down with handles and speed. he also bulls his way inside drawing fouls so i'd say the only way to stop a veteran reke would be to foul him

the reason why parker isnt touted as a superstar is because he's like any other point guard out there, if he had the defensive prowess of paul and the shooting of a guy like curry or bibby maybe. but he's ur typical speed point guard. Tyreke is a freak versatility wise he can play 1, 2, possibly 3, the size difference as you said is astounding reke's got those long arms and that body that will bounce off the other point guards hence he is a walking mismatch.
Yep, and Tony Parker at officially 6'2"/180 lbs. is about same size as little Steph Curry. Tyreke is so much bigger, stronger and with his long arms and quickness he's not intimidated one bit either one of those skinny guards on the defensive end. Just needs to develop a consistent jump shot and floaters in the lane to become UNSTOPABLE. Ironically, when Parker came into the NBA he was a very poor FT shooter and has improved that part of his game a lot. Tyreke is already good from the FT line. Likewise, Parker was an average at best shooter from outside 15 feet - and he's improved there as well. So in reality, Tyreke has less overall parts of his game (offensively and defensively) to work on to become a big time star in NBA.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#4
With all the talk about how unstoppable Tyreke will be when he develops a jumpshot, I want to pose this question. How is Tyreke different and more superstar-like than Tony Parker, who similarly gets into the paint at will and has a fairly respectable outside game? Is it only size that separates the 2? Why then, is Tyreke Evans a superstar in the making (based on his skill set) while Tony Parker does not have superstar status?

Thoughts?

Its a lot like asking why the Bird comparisons for Peja were so ridiculous.

You've got multiple factors.

First, is indeed the size factor, and what goes along with that, the completeness. The same way that Kevin Martin never mattered despite being a Top 10 scorer statistically at least (see third point). Its the guys who can fill every line of the boxscore who are the dominant players. Parker is basically a scorer. He's not a great assist guy. Too small to rebound or guard people. He does the one thing.

Second is the ceiling. If Reke was 29 right now, was never going to get any better, then you know what? Sure, there is a comparison in the one area (scoring). Actually Reke's size makes him harder to stop than Parker, but Parker at his best has been a tad better offensively than Reke at 20. But Reke IS 20. Reke as superstar isn't just 20-5-5, special as that is. Within three years Tony Parker will be lining up to pay Reke to autograph his sneakers. Parker had a rookie season as a 19-20 year old too. He averaged 9.2pts during it on .419 shooting. And he's still evolved into a multiple time All Star. Now imagine what a physically huge for his position rookie who averages 20-5-5 at a similar age (Parker was about 7 months younger) will evolve into.

Third is those double teams. Coaches know who can kill you. What people don't realize is that Reke didn't average 20-5-5 this year anymore than LeBron averaged only 30-8-7. Reke, as a 20 year old rookie, bent opposing defenses wihtin his first MONTH in the NBA. The only thing that stopped him from averaging 25ppg was the constant double teaming and loaded defenses, same way that LeBron is a 35ppg scorer at least, maybe even 40, if he's guardewd like a normal player. The superstars, the elite guys, are FAR more dominant than their numbers indicate. Parker scores 18ppg or whatever against teams concerned about him, but not THAT concerend about him. Few teams load the defense to stop him uness the other Spurs are hurt. Reke scored 20ppg against teams almost more concerend about stopping him than winning the game (although this season the two things often went hand in hand).
 
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#5
...Reke scored 20ppg against teams almost more concerend about stopping him than winning the game (although this season the two things often went hand in hand).
Agreed on everything above previous to the above. The hand in hand thing is wrong though. Rarely did the opposing team actually stop him, yet frequently the team still lost.

The way I read that is the Kings need to get way better at defense, or they need more scoring that's as reliable as 'Reke's.
 
#6
You can clamp down on Parker with a similarly quick guy.

You can't clamp down on Evans with a quicker guy because he will bull rush his way inside. You put an actual bull on Evans ala Artest and he gets past him with his deceptive quickness.
 
#7
Interesting question as they do currently possess some of the same qualities. The answer i can immediately point to that shows seperation is Tyreke averaging 20/5/5 in his ROOKIE YEAR. After that Tyreke seperates himself even further from the likes of Parker with the size and strength talking points. Also, many assume Evans will eventually have a respectable jump shot. Its not an unreasonable thing to assume for a player of his ilk.
 
#8
If reke gets that jumpshot he will be in a whole different universe then parker.
LBJ's shot looks alot like Rekes with that fade away aspect, and lebron got it to work. i wonder if rekes gonna keep that fade on his shot.
 
#9
If reke gets that jumpshot he will be in a whole different universe then parker.
LBJ's shot looks alot like Rekes with that fade away aspect, and lebron got it to work. i wonder if rekes gonna keep that fade on his shot.
I believe he possesses that hunger to be a superstar and to be that superstar I also believe he possesses that realization that he needs that jumpshot to be one.
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#10
Aside from the money and the stats, being considered a superstar is alot about perception. How your thought of by your peers and by the fans. You think of the Lakers and one player springs to mind. Kobe Bryant! You think of Cleveland and again one player springs to mind. LeBron James! Ditto Miami with Wade and lastly the Spurs with Duncan. Opp's, what happened there. I said the Spurs, and I didn't say Tony Parker sprang to mind. Did I?

Right now, around the NBA, I would bet you a dollar to a doughnut that if you asked the average fan who they thought of right now when you mention the Kings. The name you would hear would be Tyreke Evans. And thats as it should be.. No offense Tony!
 
#11
With all the talk about how unstoppable Tyreke will be when he develops a jumpshot, I want to pose this question. How is Tyreke different and more superstar-like than Tony Parker, who similarly gets into the paint at will and has a fairly respectable outside game? Is it only size that separates the 2? Why then, is Tyreke Evans a superstar in the making (based on his skill set) while Tony Parker does not have superstar status?

Thoughts?
I think everyone else pretty much covered the basics, but I like to look at it a simple way. When teams set up their defense for the Spurs, they look at primarily what they are going to do about Duncan and Ginobli. When they set up their defense for the Kings, look at what they are going to do about Tyreke. That tells me all I need to know.
 
#12
Tony is french. and has very few back to the basket moves. Tony is older. Tony is weaker. Tony has more wear and tear and nagging injuries. Tyreke is a better leaper, more length and size and strength. Ceiling. Defense. Its easy to compare them statistically, but there are polar opposites in almost everything else.
 
#13
Tony is french. and has very few back to the basket moves. Tony is older. Tony is weaker. Tony has more wear and tear and nagging injuries. Tyreke is a better leaper, more length and size and strength. Ceiling. Defense. Its easy to compare them statistically, but there are polar opposites in almost everything else.
Totally the answer I was looking for...
 
#14
Strength, size, and ceiling. But strength and size especially. Tony Parker can't play with his back to the basket like Evans or Andre Miller can
 
#15
Parker when healthy, you cannot keep him out the paint like tyreke ,size the obvious difference between the 2. Both very good pg's, Parker's jump shot improved and he has to keep it consistent to keep the def honest, thats what Tyreke must do.