Baja Den's way too early, worthless 2023 mock draft:

bajaden

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Way to early and worthless because my final mock draft for 2023 is unlikely to look anything like this one. But this one is fun because I can pretty much slot players where I want because it's all about potential, and this draft is loaded with potential. It's probably one of the deepest drafts at the top that I've seen in a long time. But, they still have to play the games and so far all I've been able to do is watch a lot of highschool basketball and of course a lot of the opening day games which for the most part were against poor competition.

1. Victor Wembanyama: C/PF/SF/?, 7'4", 215 Lb's, 7'8" Wingspan,
Freak of nature who is loaded with talent. Surprising good athlete with great coordination for a player that's 7'4". He's the real deal.

2. Scoot Henderson: PG, 6'3", 195 Lb's, G-League Ignite.
Was a man amongst boys last season in G-League Ignite at age 17. Terrific athlete who has Fox like speed and quickness. Needs to improve his 3 pt shot.

3. Cam Whitmore: SF, 6'7", 220 Lb's, Freshman, Villanova.
Knows how to play. Elite athlete who loves to attack the basket. Has an NBA body and is a very good defender with a terrific motor.

4. Nick Smith: SG/PG, 6'4", 185 Lb's, Freshman, Arkansas.
Smith is a 3 level scorer who has a very relaxed 3 pt shot. He has a quick first step, and can get anywhere he wants on the court. Just a smooth offensive player.

5. Jarace Walker: PF, 6'8", 235 Lb's, 7'2" Wingspan, Freshman, Houston.
I love Walker! Freak athlete with a non stop motor. He has a strong NBA body who will bully his way to the basket. Needs to improve his 3 pt shot, but has a good Mid-range. He's a ESPN highlight dunker. He impacted every game I saw him in. Love, love the kid.

6. Amen Thompson: PG/SG/ SF, 6'7", 190 Lb's, 6'11" Wingspan, Overtime Elite.
Freak athlete with elite handles. Don't know his vertical, but his head is above the basket when he dunks. Good and unselfish passer. Good and willing defender. His 3 pt shot is a work in progress, and in my mock, it's what keeps him from being the 3 rd pick in the draft.

7. Cason Wallace: PG/SG, 6'4", 185 Lb's, Freshman, Kentucky.
I probably have him higher than most, but I love his game. Terrific defendeer, can score from anywhere on the floor. Good handles and a very good passer.

8. Dariq Whitehead: SG, 6'6", 196 Lb's, 6'9" Wingspan, Freshman, Duke.
He's recovering from a broken wrist, but is a smooth athlete, who has turned himself into a good 3 pt shooter.Playes above the rim and is a good defender.

9. Keyonte George: PG, 6'4", 205 Lb's, Freshman, Baylor.
Explosive athlete with a lot of herky/jerky movement that keeps defenders off balance. Good shooter and excellent finisher. More of a score first PG.

10. G. G. Jackson: SF, 6'9", 210 Lb's, Freshman, South Carolina.
Explosive athlete who plays above the rim. Good shooter who can create his own shot. Lightning quick first step. Was unguardable at the highschool level.

11. Brandon Miller: SF, 6'9", 200 Lb's, Freshman, Alabama.
Another elite athlete. Plays above the rim. Has good midrange, and can shoot the three. Able to guard multiple positions. Could go much higher than this!

12. Ausar Thompson: SF/SG, 6'7", 190 Lb's, 6'11" Wingspan, Overtime Elite.
Ausar is just a slightly poorer version of his brother. He's probably a tad better 3 pt shooter, but isn't the passer his brother is. Terrific athlete though.

13. Anthony Black: SF, 6'7", 185 Lb's, Freshman, Arkansas.
Black is a very good player. Very skilled. Excellent passer, who probably looks to pass first a little too much. Beautiful looking jumpshot. Excellent ball handler who is crafty enough to get where he wants on the court. Not an elite athlete, but very good athlete. I like Black a lot.

14. Dillon Mitchell: SF, 6'7", 195 Lb's, Freshman, Texas.
Another ESPN highlight dunker. His jumpshot is a work in progress, but he has great potential. Shows the potential to be a good defender. Needs to work on his shot creation as well.

15. Arthur Kaluma: SF, 6'7", 220 Lb's, 6'11" Wingspan, Soph, Creighton.
Another terrific athlete. Very physical player who plays taller than he is. His 3 pt shot is improving. Very good rebounder in traffic. Good defender with excellent lateral quickness. Could go much higher than 15.

16. Baba Miller: SF/PF, 6'11", 205 Lb's, 7'2" Wingspan, Freshman, Florida St.
Miller is one of those players that grew from 6'2" to 6'11" over the span of a couple of years, and he's retained most of his guard skills. Excellent ballhandler for his size. Needs to improve his 3 pt shot. Decent rebounder, and is able to guard multiple positions. Could probably play some center when he gets stronger.

17. Kel'el Ware: C, 7'0", 215 Lb's, Freshman, Oregon.
My first pure center off the board. Ware is a good post player with good footwork and a good touch at the basket. He's shown the ability to step out and spread the floor, as well as some passing ability. He's a good rim protector, and an excellent athlete who runs the floor well. He could be something special if he puts in the work.

18. Jordan Walsh: SF, 6'7", 190 Lb's, 7'3" Wingspan, Freshman, Arkansas.
Most mocks probably don't have Walsh this high, but I just love the kid. He's a freak athlete who can jump out of the gym. He's an outstanding passer who could play point forward. He has an unstoppable motor and is a terror on the defensive side of the ball. His jumpshot needs to improve, but he could be a special player. Side note, according to some research, only two other players in the NBA have have been 6'7" with a plus 7'2" wingspan. Kawhi Leonard, and Tracy McGrady. Just saying!

19. Dereck Lively: C, 7'1", 215 Lb's, 7'8" Wingspan, Freshman, Duke.
Lively's selling point will be as rim protector, and rim runner. He could be an elite shotblocker at the next level. He's not a bad passer and he's an excellent athlete. He's a good in space defender away from the basket. His NBA vlaue will likely depend on his ability to spread the floor. As of now, I'm not sold on him as a 3 pt shooter.

20. Grady Dick: SF, 6'8", 205 Lb's, Freshman, Kansas.
Grady is an elite 3 pt shooter who can put a lot of points on the board in a hurry. He's not an elite athlete, but he's good enough for the NBA and he can play above the rim. He has some shot creation in his bag, and he's a smart player. Not sure about his defensive ability just yet. But his shot will get him into the NBA.

21. Terquavion Smith: SG, 6'4", 170 Lb's, 6'6.5" Wingspan, Soph, North Carolina St.
Smith is a very good shooter if a bit streaky at times. But when he's hot he can light it up. He put on a good show at the combine last year, but then decided to return to school. He's just an OK finisher, but I think as he gets stronger, he'll improve in that area. He'a decent defender, who once again should improve with added strength.

22. Nikola Durisic: SF, 6'8", 200 Lb's, 18 years old, Mega Mozzart.
Some mocks have him in the 2nd rd, but I really like his game. I saw his game against a US team and he was the best player on the floor. Good athlete, and good shooter from the outside along with a good mid-range game. I like his potential.

23. Jett Howard: SF, 6'8", 220 Lb's, Freshman, Michigan.
Juwan Howard's son, so he knows how to play the game. Good outside shooter who can put it on the floor a bit. Very strong player who could probably play both forward positions. He's a good but not an elite athlete. Good rebounder and gives effort on defense.

24. Leonard Miller: SF, 6'10", 211 Lb's, 7'2" Wingspan, G-League Ignite.
Miller is an interesting prospect. He declared for last years draft, and then withdrew. Very good ballhandler for his size, and is a 3 level scorer. He's very good athlete He's a good enough passer that you can run the ball through him. His 3 pt shot looks a little funky, but it goes in, and that's something that's correctable.

25. Kris Murray: PF/SF, 6'8", 225 Lb's, 6'11" Wingspan, Iowa.
I'm expecting a break out year for Kris since he'll be handed the ball now that his brother has moved on. If you've seen Keegan play, then you've seen Kris play, although I think Kris may be a slightly better shooter than Keegan.

26. Marcus Sasser: PG, 6'2", 195 Lb's, Senior, Houston.
Explosive PG with terrific handles. Good 3 pt shooter who will blow right by you on a run out. His shot is a bit streaky at times, but when he goes cold, he'll attack the basket. Good passer and good defender.

27. Chris Livingston: SG/SF, 6'5", 190 Lb's, 6'11" Wingspan, Freshman, Kentucky.
I like Livingston quite a bit. Very good athlete with good handles who can shoot the ball from three. Although only 6'5" he can play some SF because of his huge wingspan. Very good defender with terrific lateral agility.

28. Amari Bailey: SG, 6'5", 185 Lb's, Freshman, UCLA.
I suspect that Amari will go higher than his at the end of the season. He's loaded with potential, and is an elite athlete who flies all over the court. His outside shot needs some work, but he's a nightmare for the other team on defense. He'a high flyer who playes above the rim.

29. Julian Phillips: SF/SG, 6'7", 210 Lb's, Freshman, Tennessee.
Phillips at worse, at the next level will be a 3 and D player, but I think he can be more. He's has very good handles and is a decent passer. He needs to get a little stronger, but isn't afraid to get in and mix it up with the big boys either rebounding, or attacking the basket. He's a good shooter, and a very good defender.

30. Kyle Filipowski: PF, 6'11", 220 Lb's, Freshman, Duke.
I'm amazed that most mocks don't have him in the 1st rd. I like him quite a bit. He's not an elite athlete, but he's a good athlete, who is a versatile player. He can step out and shoot the three, but can also defend the basket and rebound.The other night in 25 minutes he had 10 pt's, 12 rebounds, 2 blocked shots and 3 assists. Just one game, but I like his skill set.
 
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Good mock! Inspired me to loosely throw one together as well seeing as you have it formatted already. I'm a believer in this years C's, hoping the Kings can get one! Theres A LOT of injury clouds hanging over these mocks for so early in the season, USC's 5 star recruit Vince Ikechukwu even had a heart attack, need everyone to get healthy (and for the NCAA to let baba miller play)! I threw some personal favorites that've had hot starts in near the end.

1. Victor Wembanyama: C, 7'4", 215 Lb's, 7'8" Wingspan
2. Scoot Henderson: PG/SG, 6'3", 195 Lb's, G-League Ignite.
3. Brandon Miller: F, 6'9", 200 Lb's, Freshman, Alabama.
4. Dariq Whitehead: SG/SF, 6'7", 196 Lb's, 6'9" Wingspan, Freshman, Duke.
5. Nick Smith: SG/PG, 6'4", 185 Lb's, Freshman, Arkansas.
6. Jarace Walker: PF, 6'8", 235 Lb's, 7'2" Wingspan, Freshman, Houston.
7. Dereck Lively II: C, 7'1", 215 Lb's, 7'6" Wingspan, Freshman, Duke.
8. Dillon Mitchell: PF, 6'8", 195 Lb's, Freshman, Texas.
9. Keyonte George: SG, 6'4", 205 Lb's, Freshman, Baylor.
10. Kel'el Ware: C, 7'0", 215 Lb's, Freshman, Oregon.
11. Amen Thompson: PG/SG/ SF, 6'7", 190 Lb's, 6'11" Wingspan, Overtime Elite.
12. Gradey Dick: SG/SF, 6'8", 205 Lb's, Freshman, Kansas.
13. Kyle Filipkowski: C/PF, 6'11", 220 Lb's, Freshman, Duke.
14. Cason Wallace: PG/SG, 6'4", 185 Lb's, Freshman, Kentucky.
15. G. G. Jackson: PF, 6'9", 210 Lb's, Freshman, South Carolina.
16. Anthony Black: SF/SG, 6'7" 185lb's, Freshman, Arkansas.
17. Baba Miller: SF/PF, 6'11", 205 Lb's, 7'2" Wingspan, Freshman, Florida St.
18. Cam Whitmore: SF, 6'7", 220 Lb's, Freshman, Villanova.
19. Jett Howard: SF/SG, 6'8", 220 Lb's, Freshman, Michigan.
20. Terquavion Smith: SG, 6'4", 170 Lb's, 6'6.5" Wingspan, Soph, North Carolina St.
21. Cidy Sissoko: SG/SF, 6'7", 200 lbs, G-League Ignite.
22. Tyrese Proctor CG, 6'5", 175lbs, Freshman, Duke.
23. Ausar Thompson: SF/SG, 6'7", 190 Lb's, 6'11" Wingspan, Overtime Elite.
24. Leonard Miller: SF, 6'10", 211 Lb's, 7'2" Wingspan, G-League Ignite.
25. Emoni Bates: SG/SF, 6'8" 170lbs, Sophomore, Eastern Michigan.
26. JJ Starling: SG, 6'4", 200lbs, Freshman, Notre Dame.
27. Trevon Brazile, F, 6'10, 212lb's, Sophomore, Arkansas.
28. Coleman Hawkins: PF/C, 6'10", 225lbs, Junior, Illinois. <--- from Sacramento
29. Ryan Kalkbrenner; C, 7'1", 256lb's, Senior, Creighton.
30. Julian Phillips: SF/SG, 6'7", 210 Lb's, Freshman, Tennessee.
 
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Way to early and worthless because my final mock draft for 2023 is unlikely to look anything like this one. But this one is fun because I can pretty much slot players where I want because it's all about potential, and this draft is loaded with potential. It's probably one of the deepest drafts at the top that I've seen in a long time. But, they still have to play the games and so far all I've been able to do is watch a lot of highschool basketball and of course a lot of the opening day games which for the most part were against poor competition.

1. Victor Wembanyama: C/PF/SF/?, 7'4", 215 Lb's, 7'8" Wingspan,
Freak of nature who is loaded with talent. Surprising good athlete with great coordination for a player that's 7'4". He's the real deal.

2. Scoot Henderson: PG, 6'3", 195 Lb's, G-League Ignite.
Was a man amongst boys last season in G-League Ignite at age 17. Terrific athlete who has Fox like speed and quickness. Needs to improve his 3 pt shot.

3. Cam Whitmore: SF, 6'7", 220 Lb's, Freshman, Villanova.
Knows how to play. Elite athlete who loves to attack the basket. Has an NBA body and is a very good defender with a terrific motor.

4. Nick Smith: SG/PG, 6'4", 185 Lb's, Freshman, Arkansas.
Smith is a 3 level scorer who has a very relaxed 3 pt shot. He has a quick first step, and can get anywhere he wants on the court. Just a smooth offensive player.

5. Jarace Walker: PF, 6'8", 235 Lb's, 7'2" Wingspan, Freshman, Houston.
I love Walker! Freak athlete with a non stop motor. He has a strong NBA body who will bully his way to the basket. Needs to improve his 3 pt shot, but has a good Mid-range. He's a ESPN highlight dunker. He impacted every game I saw him in. Love, love the kid.

6. Amen Thompson: PG/SG/ SF, 6'7", 190 Lb's, 6'11" Wingspan, Overtime Elite.
Freak athlete with elite handles. Don't know his vertical, but his head is above the basket when he dunks. Good and unselfish passer. Good and willing defender. His 3 pt shot is a work in progress, and in my mock, it's what keeps him from being the 3 rd pick in the draft.

7. Cason Wallace: PG/SG, 6'4", 185 Lb's, Freshman, Kentucky.
I probably have him higher than most, but I love his game. Terrific defendeer, can score from anywhere on the floor. Good handles and a very good passer.

8. Dariq Whitehead: SG, 6'6", 196 Lb's, 6'9" Wingspan, Freshman, Duke.
He's recovering from a broken wrist, but is a smooth athlete, who has turned himself into a good 3 pt shooter.Playes above the rim and is a good defender.

9. Keyonte George: PG, 6'4", 205 Lb's, Freshman, Baylor.
Explosive athlete with a lot of herky/jerky movement that keeps defenders off balance. Good shooter and excellent finisher. More of a score first PG.

10. G. G. Jackson: SF, 6'9", 210 Lb's, Freshman, South Carolina.
Explosive athlete who plays above the rim. Good shooter who can create his own shot. Lightning quick first step. Was unguardable at the highschool level.

11. Brandon Miller: SF, 6'9", 200 Lb's, Freshman, Alabama.
Another elite athlete. Plays above the rim. Has good midrange, and can shoot the three. Able to guard multiple positions. Could go much higher than this!

12. Ausar Thompson: SF/SG, 6'7", 190 Lb's, 6'11" Wingspan, Overtime Elite.
Ausar is just a slightly poorer version of his brother. He's probably a tad better 3 pt shooter, but isn't the passer his brother is. Terrific athlete though.

13. Anthony Black: SF, 6'7", 185 Lb's, Freshman, Arkansas.
Black is a very good player. Very skilled. Excellent passer, who probably looks to pass first a little too much. Beautiful looking jumpshot. Excellent ball handler who is crafty enough to get where he wants on the court. Not an elite athlete, but very good athlete. I like Black a lot.

14. Dillon Mitchell: SF, 6'7", 195 Lb's, Freshman, Texas.
Another ESPN highlight dunker. His jumpshot is a work in progress, but he has great potential. Shows the potential to be a good defender. Needs to work on his shot creation as well.

15. Arthur Kaluma: SF, 6'7", 220 Lb's, 6'11" Wingspan, Soph, Creighton.
Another terrific athlete. Very physical player who plays taller than he is. His 3 pt shot is improving. Very good rebounder in traffic. Good defender with excellent lateral quickness. Could go much higher than 15.

16. Baba Miller: SF/PF, 6'11", 205 Lb's, 7'2" Wingspan, Freshman, Florida St.
Miller is one of those players that grew from 6'2" to 6'11" over the span of a couple of years, and he's retained most of his guard skills. Excellent ballhandler for his size. Needs to improve his 3 pt shot. Decent rebounder, and is able to guard multiple positions. Could probably play some center when he gets stronger.

17. Kel'el Ware: C, 7'0", 215 Lb's, Freshman, Oregon.
My first pure center off the board. Ware is a good post player with good footwork and a good touch at the basket. He's shown the ability to step out and spread the floor, as well as some passing ability. He's a good rim protector, and an excellent athlete who runs the floor well. He could be something special if he puts in the work.

18. Jordan Walsh: SF, 6'7", 190 Lb's, 7'3" Wingspan, Freshman, Arkansas.
Most mocks probably don't have Walsh this high, but I just love the kid. He's a freak athlete who can jump out of the gym. He's an outstanding passer who could play point forward. He has an unstoppable motor and is a terror on the defensive side of the ball. His jumpshot needs to improve, but he could be a special player. Side note, according to some research, only two other players in the NBA have have been 6'7" with a plus 7'2" wingspan. Kawhi Leonard, and Tracy McGrady. Just saying!

19. Dereck Lively: C, 7'1", 215 Lb's, 7'8" Wingspan, Freshman, Duke.
Lively's selling point will be as rim protector, and rim runner. He could be an elite shotblocker at the next level. He's not a bad passer and he's an excellent athlete. He's a good in space defender away from the basket. His NBA vlaue will likely depend on his ability to spread the floor. As of now, I'm not sold on him as a 3 pt shooter.

20. Grady Dick: SF, 6'8", 205 Lb's, Freshman, Kansas.
Grady is an elite 3 pt shooter who can put a lot of points on the board in a hurry. He's not an elite athlete, but he's good enough for the NBA and he can play above the rim. He has some shot creation in his bag, and he's a smart player. Not sure about his defensive ability just yet. But his shot will get him into the NBA.

21. Terquavion Smith: SG, 6'4", 170 Lb's, 6'6.5" Wingspan, Soph, North Carolina St.
Smith is a very good shooter if a bit streaky at times. But when he's hot he can light it up. He put on a good show at the combine last year, but then decided to return to school. He's just an OK finisher, but I think as he gets stronger, he'll improve in that area. He'a decent defender, who once again should improve with added strength.

22. Nikola Durisic: SF, 6'8", 200 Lb's, 18 years old, Mega Mozzart.
Some mocks have him in the 2nd rd, but I really like his game. I saw his game against a US team and he was the best player on the floor. Good athlete, and good shooter from the outside along with a good mid-range game. I like his potential.

23. Jett Howard: SF, 6'8", 220 Lb's, Freshman, Michigan.
Juwan Howard's son, so he knows how to play the game. Good outside shooter who can put it on the floor a bit. Very strong player who could probably play both forward positions. He's a good but not an elite athlete. Good rebounder and gives effort on defense.

24. Leonard Miller: SF, 6'10", 211 Lb's, 7'2" Wingspan, G-League Ignite.
Miller is an interesting prospect. He declared for last years draft, and then withdrew. Very good ballhandler for his size, and is a 3 level scorer. He's very good athlete He's a good enough passer that you can run the ball through him. His 3 pt shot looks a little funky, but it goes in, and that's something that's correctable.

25. Kris Murray: PF/SF, 6'8", 225 Lb's, 6'11" Wingspan, Iowa.
I'm expecting a break out year for Kris since he'll be handed the ball now that his brother has moved on. If you've seen Keegan play, then you've seen Kris play, although I think Kris may be a slightly better shooter than Keegan.

26. Marcus Sasser: PG, 6'2", 195 Lb's, Senior, Houston.
Explosive PG with terrific handles. Good 3 pt shooter who will blow right by you on a run out. His shot is a bit streaky at times, but when he goes cold, he'll attack the basket. Good passer and good defender.

27. Chris Livingston: SG/SF, 6'5", 190 Lb's, 6'11" Wingspan, Freshman, Kentucky.
I like Livingston quite a bit. Very good athlete with good handles who can shoot the ball from three. Although only 6'5" he can play some SF because of his huge wingspan. Very good defender with terrific lateral agility.

28. Amari Bailey: SG, 6'5", 185 Lb's, Freshman, UCLA.
I suspect that Amari will go higher than his at the end of the season. He's loaded with potential, and is an elite athlete who flies all over the court. His outside shot needs some work, but he's a nightmare for the other team on defense. He'a high flyer who playes above the rim.

29. Julian Phillips: SF/SG, 6'7", 210 Lb's, Freshman, Tennessee.
Phillips at worse, at the next level will be a 3 and D player, but I think he can be more. He's has very good handles and is a decent passer. He needs to get a little stronger, but isn't afraid to get in and mix it up with the big boys either rebounding, or attacking the basket. He's a good shooter, and a very good defender.

30. Kyle Filipowski: PF, 6'11", 220 Lb's, Freshman, Duke.
I'm amazed that most mocks don't have him in the 1st rd. I like him quite a bit. He's not an elite athlete, but he's a good athlete, who is a versatile player. He can step out and shoot the three, but can also defend the basket and rebound.The other night in 25 minutes he had 10 pt's, 12 rebounds, 2 blocked shots and 3 assists. Just one game, but I like his skill set.
okay Baja….. we are halfway into the season. Who are the 3 and D prospects the Kings might draft? Between Davion, Fox, Huerter, Monk and Davis we are well positioned on the Guard line. We need a 3 and D forward and we have to hit it this year…

what ya got?
 

bajaden

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okay Baja….. we are halfway into the season. Who are the 3 and D prospects the Kings might draft? Between Davion, Fox, Huerter, Monk and Davis we are well positioned on the Guard line. We need a 3 and D forward and we have to hit it this year…

what ya got?
Well the best 3 and D player in the draft, in my opinion, unfortunately is a guard by the name of Cason Wallace. Think a taller version of Mitchell who can shoot the ball. But as for wings, I can't give you a pure 3 and D guy, but there are several that could turn into that. I really like Jordan Walsh from Arkansas. I think he's the best all around defensive player in the draft. He's a 6'7" wing but with a 7'3" wingspan. As I've mentioned before, two players with those same deminsions are Kawhi Leonard, and Tracy McGrady.

But you would be betting on his 3 pt shot improving. I will say this, he shoots a higher percentage on catch and shoots than off the dribble. What makes Walsh interesting is that he's also a freak athlete, a very good passer and ball handler. Others that I like are likely to be lottery picks, like Jett Howard or Max Lewis. Both have the potential to be very good defenders, and they're already good shooters. A player who might be available is Taylor Hendricks. He needs some polishing, but has the potential. I also like Brice Sensabaugh. He's a tad undersized at 6'6", but he has a good wingspan and he's a good defender and shooter.

Now there are some players that will be available in the 2nd rd that could turn into good 3 and D players. Players like Arthur Kaluma from Creighton. Or, Julian Strawther, a 6'7" SF from Gonzaga. While unspectacular playing the role of the 4th or 5th option, he's been very consistent since the start of the season, shooting 40.8% from three while taking 5 a game. He's a solid defender and a good athlete. He looks like he just came out fresh from the bench player factory. OK, I may be underrating him a bit. It's harder to stand out on a good team than a bad team, and Gonzaga is a good team. He's also a very good rebounder.

Another player I like is Baylor Scheierman, another 6'7' SF from Creighton. He's been shooting consistently around 38% from three all season and he's a terrific rebounder. He currently carries a DRtg of 92.6 and averages around 1.2 steals a game. Lastly I'll throw a name at you that you've probably never heard, and thats Tucker DeVries from Drake. Yep, another 6'7' SF. He's been a pretty good shooter all season currently hanging around 37% from three. I think the kid has potential. Check back with me near the end of the season and I'll probably have a different point of view.
 
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Well the best 3 and D player in the draft, in my opinion, unfortunately is a guard by the name of Cason Wallace. Think a taller version of Mitchell who can shoot the ball. But as for wings, I can't give you a pure 3 and D guy, but there are several that could turn into that. I really like Jordan Walsh from Arkansas. I think he's the best all around defensive player in the draft. He's a 6'7" wing but with a 7'3" wingspan. As I've mentioned before, two players with those same deminsions are Kawhi Leonard, and Tracy McGrady.

But you would be betting on his 3 pt shot improving. I will say this, he shoots a higher percentage on catch and shoots than off the dribble. What makes Walsh interesting is that he's also a freak athlete, a very good passer and ball handler. Others that I like are likely to be lottery picks, like Jett Howard or Max Lewis. Both have the potential to be very good defenders, and they're already good shooters. A player who might be available is Taylor Hendricks. He needs some polishing, but has the potential. I also like Brice Sensabaugh. He's a tad undersized at 6'6", but he has a good wingspan and he's a good defender and shooter.

Now there are some players that will be available in the 2nd rd that could turn into good 3 and D players. Players like Arthur Kaluma from Creighton. Or, Julian Strawther, a 6'7" SF from Gonzaga. While unspectacular playing the role of the 4th or 5th option, he's been very consistent since the start of the season, shooting 40.8% from three while taking 5 a game. He's a solid defender and a good athlete. He looks like he just came out fresh from the bench player factory. OK, I may be underrating him a bit. It's harder to stand out on a good team than a bad team, and Gonzaga is a good team. He's also a very good rebounder.

Another player I like is Baylor Scheierman, another 6'7' SF from Creighton. He's been shooting consistently around 38% from three all season and he's a terrific rebounder. He currently carries a DRtg of 92.6 and averages around 1.2 steals a game. Lastly I'll throw a name at you that you've probably never heard, and thats Tucker DeVries from Drake. Yep, another 6'7' SF. He's been a pretty good shooter all season currently hanging around 37% from three. I think the kid has potential. Check back with me near the end of the season and I'll probably have a different point of view.
thanks I will look at them. I think Kaluma maybe goes higher
 
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1. Victor Wembanyama: C, 7'4", 215 Lb's, 7'8" Wingspan
2. Scoot Henderson: PG/SG, 6'3", 195 Lb's, G-League Ignite.
3. Brandon Miller: F, 6'9", 200 Lb's, Freshman, Alabama.
4. Amen Thompson: PG/SG/ SF, 6'7", 190 Lb's, 6'11" Wingspan, Overtime Elite.
5. Anthony Black: SF/SG, 6'7" 185lb's, Freshman, Arkansas.
6. Cam Whitmore: SF, 6'7", 220 Lb's, Freshman, Villanova.
7. Nick Smith: SG/PG, 6'4", 185 Lb's, Freshman, Arkansas.
8. Gradey Dick: SG/SF, 6'8", 205 Lb's, Freshman, Kansas.
9. Max Lewis: SG, 6'7", 185lbs, Freshman, Pepperdine.
10. Keyonte George: SG, 6'4", 205 Lb's, Freshman, Baylor.
11. Kel'el Ware: C, 7'0", 215 Lb's, Freshman, Oregon.
12. Ausar Thompson: SF/SG, 6'7", 190 Lb's, 6'11" Wingspan, Overtime Elite.
13. Kyle Filipkowski: C/PF, 6'11", 220 Lb's, Freshman, Duke.
14. G. G. Jackson: PF, 6'9", 210 Lb's, Freshman, South Carolina.
15. Jett Howard: SF/SG, 6'8", 220 Lb's, Freshman, Michigan.
16. Cason Wallace: PG/SG, 6'4", 185 Lb's, Freshman, Kentucky.
17. Taylor Hendricks; PF, 6'9", 7'1" Wingspan, Freshman, UCF.
18. James Nnaji; C, 6'10, 240lbs, 7'7" wingspan.
19. Baba Miller: PF, 6'11", 205 Lb's, 7'3" Wingspan, Freshman, Florida St.
20. Dariq Whitehead: SG/SF, 6'7", 196 Lb's, 6'9" Wingspan, Freshman, Duke.
21. Terquavion Smith: SG, 6'4", 170 Lb's, 6'6.5" Wingspan, Soph, North Carolina St.
22. Jarace Walker: PF, 6'8", 235 Lb's, 7'2" Wingspan, Freshman, Houston.
23. Noah Clowney; PF, 6'10, 210lbs, 7'2" wingspan, Freshman. <--- where the Kings would draft as of today
24. Kris Murray; SF, 6'8", 220lbs, 7' wingspan, Junior.
25. Jalen Hood-Schifino, PG/SG, 6'5", 6'9" wingspan, Freshman, Indiana.
26. Leonard Miller: SF, 6'10", 211 Lb's, 7'2" Wingspan, G-League Ignite.
27. Dereck Lively II: C, 7'1", 215 Lb's, 7'6" Wingspan, Freshman, Duke.
28. Coleman Hawkins: PF/C, 6'10", 225lbs, Junior, Illinois. <--- Sacramento native
29. Rayan Rupert; SG/SF , 6'6, 7'3" wingspan
30. Bilal Coulibaly; SG/SF, 6'6", 7'3" wingspan

(still debating on a 2nd/honorable mention list)
 
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1. Victor Wembanyama: C, 7'4", 215 Lb's, 7'8" Wingspan
2. Scoot Henderson: PG/SG, 6'3", 195 Lb's, G-League Ignite.
3. Brandon Miller: F, 6'9", 200 Lb's, Freshman, Alabama.
4. Amen Thompson: PG/SG/ SF, 6'7", 190 Lb's, 6'11" Wingspan, Overtime Elite.
5. Anthony Black: SF/SG, 6'7" 185lb's, Freshman, Arkansas.
6. Cam Whitmore: SF, 6'7", 220 Lb's, Freshman, Villanova.
7. Nick Smith: SG/PG, 6'4", 185 Lb's, Freshman, Arkansas.
8. Gradey Dick: SG/SF, 6'8", 205 Lb's, Freshman, Kansas.
9. Max Lewis: SG, 6'7", 185lbs, Freshman, Pepperdine.
10. Keyonte George: SG, 6'4", 205 Lb's, Freshman, Baylor.
11. Kel'el Ware: C, 7'0", 215 Lb's, Freshman, Oregon.
12. Ausar Thompson: SF/SG, 6'7", 190 Lb's, 6'11" Wingspan, Overtime Elite.
13. Kyle Filipkowski: C/PF, 6'11", 220 Lb's, Freshman, Duke.
14. G. G. Jackson: PF, 6'9", 210 Lb's, Freshman, South Carolina.
15. Jett Howard: SF/SG, 6'8", 220 Lb's, Freshman, Michigan.
16. Cason Wallace: PG/SG, 6'4", 185 Lb's, Freshman, Kentucky.
17. Taylor Hendricks; PF, 6'9", 7'1" Wingspan, Freshman, UCF.
18. James Nnaji; C, 6'10, 240lbs, 7'7" wingspan.
19. Baba Miller: PF, 6'11", 205 Lb's, 7'3" Wingspan, Freshman, Florida St.
20. Dariq Whitehead: SG/SF, 6'7", 196 Lb's, 6'9" Wingspan, Freshman, Duke.
21. Terquavion Smith: SG, 6'4", 170 Lb's, 6'6.5" Wingspan, Soph, North Carolina St.
22. Jarace Walker: PF, 6'8", 235 Lb's, 7'2" Wingspan, Freshman, Houston.
23. Noah Clowney; PF, 6'10, 210lbs, 7'2" wingspan, Freshman. <--- where the Kings would draft as of today
24. Kris Murray; SF, 6'8", 220lbs, 7' wingspan, Junior.
25. Jalen Hood-Schifino, PG/SG, 6'5", 6'9" wingspan, Freshman, Indiana.
26. Leonard Miller: SF, 6'10", 211 Lb's, 7'2" Wingspan, G-League Ignite.
27. Dereck Lively II: C, 7'1", 215 Lb's, 7'6" Wingspan, Freshman, Duke.
28. Coleman Hawkins: PF/C, 6'10", 225lbs, Junior, Illinois. <--- Sacramento native
29. Rayan Rupert; SG/SF , 6'6, 7'3" wingspan
30. Bilal Coulibaly; SG/SF, 6'6", 7'3" wingspan

(still debating on a 2nd/honorable mention list)
Really surprised that you have Walker that low. I have him in the lottery. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say. We both agree on Ausar. I have Lewis at 13 and Howard at 15. I have Lively in the 2nd rd, but I can see some team betting on his potential. I question both Lively and Ware's motor. But I'd definitely take Ware over Lively. I haven't seen Rupert play enough to really draw a solid judgement on him. All in all, you could make a solid case for your choices. I have Da'Ron Holmes at 27, and Cason Wallace at 8. I love Wallace who I think has a lot more in his tool box than he's being allowed to show.
 
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Really surprised that you have Walker that low. I have him in the lottery. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say. We both agree on Ausar. I have Lewis at 13 and Howard at 15. I have Lively in the 2nd rd, but I can see some team betting on his potential. I question both Lively and Ware's motor. But I'd definitely take Ware over Lively. I haven't seen Rupert play enough to really draw a solid judgement on him. All in all, you could make a solid case for your choices. I have Da'Ron Holmes at 27, and Cason Wallace at 8. I love Wallace who I think has a lot more in his tool box than he's being allowed to show.
I sway back and forth on Walker. I do think he'd fit here with the Kings better than most places. I think Coach Brown could maximize his defensive versatility. I do believe that he could be a potential target for us to trade up for, at this point I'd just prefer GG Jackson. Also in the last game I saw he didnt play well in the loss to Temple.

Unsure about his shooting too, he's not a very good FT shooter which worries me.

I have the opposite of recency bias with Walker too, he's been a 5-star known commodity for so many years, I remember him when he was about 6'4 and an underclassman in hs. Which always makes me think exactly what position he's best suited for.

Ware just stands out to me as the 2nd best big available, I'm running with that til I see otherwise.

I wanted to put Nnaji higher than most. Taylor Hendricks too. Baba Miller is such a wildcard his range is obviously far from settled.

Hope your right about Da'Ron Holmes and Cason Wallace. I'll have no problems marching those guys up my board if they keep playing well. Da'Ron Holmes would be one of the first names if I did the 2nd rd so i'm not too far off.

Honestly at this point with Rupert it seems like a "when there's smoke, there's fire" situation going on.
 
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I sway back and forth on Walker. I do think he'd fit here with the Kings better than most places. I think Coach Brown could maximize his defensive versatility. I do believe that he could be a potential target for us to trade up for, at this point I'd just prefer GG Jackson. Also in the last game I saw he didnt play well in the loss to Temple.

Unsure about his shooting too, he's not a very good FT shooter which worries me.

I have the opposite of recency bias with Walker too, he's been a 5-star known commodity for so many years, I remember him when he was about 6'4 and an underclassman in hs. Which always makes me think exactly what position he's best suited for.

Ware just stands out to me as the 2nd best big available, I'm running with that til I see otherwise.

I wanted to put Nnaji higher than most. Taylor Hendricks too. Baba Miller is such a wildcard his range is obviously far from settled.

Hope your right about Da'Ron Holmes and Cason Wallace. I'll have no problems marching those guys up my board if they keep playing well. Da'Ron Holmes would be one of the first names if I did the 2nd rd so i'm not too far off.

Honestly at this point with Rupert it seems like a "when there's smoke, there's fire" situation going on.
It's tough at times when judging a player because you wonder if that's all there is, or is that what the coach is asking (telling him) to do.
And in some cases, the player is simply being misused. I think it's a combination of both with Walker. He's being asked to play a role and he's playing it, which hinders his ability to show all his tools. Every once in a while it's as though he just throws caution to the wind and explodes. His poor freethrow shooting does bother me, but he wouldn't be the first outlyer to shoot better from the three than from the freethrow line.

Obviously I'm higher on Wallace than Holmes, who like you, I have in the bottom of the first rd or the top of the 2nd. There are several players in this draft that play the four or some center that I like and I wonder why some of them are floating in the 2nd rd. Like Azuolas Tubelis the 6'11" PF/C from Arizona. His teammate Ballo seems to get more press than him, but in my humble opinion, Tubelis is the better player, and that's not a knock on Ballo, who does what the does very well, it's just that Tubelis can do more. The knock on Tubelis is that he's a Junior and older than someone like Flipowski.

A player I'm trrying to like enough to put in the 1st rd, but he keeps giving me reasons not to is Jalen Wilson from Kansas. He has all the tools, but once again, he's a senior, and I could live with that if his shot was more consistent. He's a pretty good defender, and I'm trying to convince myself that his shot will come around with some proper coaching, and better shot selection. What's your read on him?
 
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It's tough at times when judging a player because you wonder if that's all there is, or is that what the coach is asking (telling him) to do.
And in some cases, the player is simply being misused. I think it's a combination of both with Walker. He's being asked to play a role and he's playing it, which hinders his ability to show all his tools. Every once in a while it's as though he just throws caution to the wind and explodes. His poor freethrow shooting does bother me, but he wouldn't be the first outlyer to shoot better from the three than from the freethrow line.

Obviously I'm higher on Wallace than Holmes, who like you, I have in the bottom of the first rd or the top of the 2nd. There are several players in this draft that play the four or some center that I like and I wonder why some of them are floating in the 2nd rd. Like Azuolas Tubelis the 6'11" PF/C from Arizona. His teammate Ballo seems to get more press than him, but in my humble opinion, Tubelis is the better player, and that's not a knock on Ballo, who does what the does very well, it's just that Tubelis can do more. The knock on Tubelis is that he's a Junior and older than someone like Flipowski.

A player I'm trrying to like enough to put in the 1st rd, but he keeps giving me reasons not to is Jalen Wilson from Kansas. He has all the tools, but once again, he's a senior, and I could live with that if his shot was more consistent. He's a pretty good defender, and I'm trying to convince myself that his shot will come around with some proper coaching, and better shot selection. What's your read on him?
Jalen Wilson is gonna be tough to peg. I'd think the Kings would like him. I couldnt be totally shocked or upset if they took him with the first round pick either.

He's a win-now, low maintenance, highly focused player, bigtime intangibles, lotta heart..

lots of these players in this draft, their team starts losing by 15-20 and they pack it in, you put kansas in an early hole and jalen wilson is gonna raise hell.. even when he loses he usually goes down in a blaze of glory.. type of player whos not the most talented but gets crap done thru sheer force of will

His measurements are what they are, he's 6'7 with a 6'8" wingspan, sometimes he lays the ball up when most NBA players that height dunk it easily, but for just about any NBA team he lands on they'll throw him on the bench and he'll get a chance to carve his own role out.

He's a solid on-ball defender, which is key to him being a potential kings pick without that I'm not sure if the risk would outweigh the reward. Who knows how the rest of his defense translates, kansas does have him switching every which way. In the event he can transition well to fulltime SF, along with a 3pt shot, u'd have yourself a steal for sure.

I'm still gathering info though. This Kansas team is much more fun for me to watch than most in the Self era. Lotta moving parts.

His 3pt shot looks nice and smooth to me, 6.6 attempts per game is a lot too.. He's almost at 80% FT's, so there's clear n widespread improvement.. even though he was a surprisingly effecitve freshman, he's truly transformed his game and conditioning, so any team taking him high will be banking on the belief his game still has lots to grow.

 
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Oh I made a mistake on the mock I posted. Keyonte Johnson should be in that first, over Coulibaly.

Honestly If i updated it today i'd probably drop Clowney n keep Coulibaly.

Jarace Walker is way too low in it for sure. N Ware is too high.
 
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Jalen Wilson is gonna be tough to peg. I'd think the Kings would like him. I couldnt be totally shocked or upset if they took him with the first round pick either.

He's a win-now, low maintenance, highly focused player, bigtime intangibles, lotta heart..

lots of these players in this draft, their team starts losing by 15-20 and they pack it in, you put kansas in an early hole and jalen wilson is gonna raise hell.. even when he loses he usually goes down in a blaze of glory.. type of player whos not the most talented but gets crap done thru sheer force of will

His measurements are what they are, he's 6'7 with a 6'8" wingspan, sometimes he lays the ball up when most NBA players that height dunk it easily, but for just about any NBA team he lands on they'll throw him on the bench and he'll get a chance to carve his own role out.

He's a solid on-ball defender, which is key to him being a potential kings pick without that I'm not sure if the risk would outweigh the reward. Who knows how the rest of his defense translates, kansas does have him switching every which way. In the event he can transition well to fulltime SF, along with a 3pt shot, u'd have yourself a steal for sure.

I'm still gathering info though. This Kansas team is much more fun for me to watch than most in the Self era. Lotta moving parts.

His 3pt shot looks nice and smooth to me, 6.6 attempts per game is a lot too.. He's almost at 80% FT's, so there's clear n widespread improvement.. even though he was a surprisingly effecitve freshman, he's truly transformed his game and conditioning, so any team taking him high will be banking on the belief his game still has lots to grow.

Well first, there was no bigger critic of Self than me. I never saw a coach with that much talent go out in the first round as often as he did. He had at least two teams that should have at minimum made it to the final 8, but got bounced in the first round. Self was a great recruiter, but not a good coach. Back to Wilson! He's currently shooting 34.1% from three, or at least was a few days ago, and that's up from what it was earlier in the year. Like you, I like his shot, and I think on a team like the Kings, where he would get more open looks, I think he could shoot close to 40% from three.

My debate isn't whether I like him or not. I do! It's whether I would draft him in the first round or not, depending on where we draft. I currently have him going in the top of the second rd. Hopefully the combine will give us his measurements. I've seen him listed at 6'7"and 6'8" and I haven't been able to get a credible wingspan on him. So we'll see. A lot of people put too much emphasis on height and wingspan. Not that those measurements don't matter, but I put a lot of emphasis on standing reach. As Jerry Reynolds once said, you don't rebound with the top of your head.

Elton Brand was originally critized coming out of college for being undersized at the PF position because he was only 6'8". But the dude had a huge standing reach that was close to many 7 footers. So he played, as they say, taller than his height. Some people would say that well, if he didn't have a huge wingspan, he wouldn't have a great standing reach. And that's true, but to me standing reach is the true telling measurement because the width of your shoulders is included in your wingspan. You can have two players with the same height and wingspan, but one will have a standing reach thats 2 to 3 inches higher.