Potential Free agent/trade/sign tracker
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LT-Sac-Town
G-League
Dream-Off season for me now:
#1 - Splash Trade for a starter who is a scoring threat/wing - Ingram
#2 - MLE - Another 3 and D wing - Naji Marshall
#3 - BI - Backup C - would love it if they had the ability to shoot the 3 and rim protect, but this may be wishful thinking with the BI
Would leave us with:
PG - Fox/Carter (8th)
SG - Ellis/Monk (6th)/ Colby (11th)
SF - Ingram/Naji (7th)/Duarte
PF - Murray/Lyles (9th)/Naji(7th)/McDaniels (12th)
C - Sabonis/Back up C (10th)
Also included what order people would be coming off the bench. This would be a 2nd round/WCF team IMO.
#1 - Splash Trade for a starter who is a scoring threat/wing - Ingram
#2 - MLE - Another 3 and D wing - Naji Marshall
#3 - BI - Backup C - would love it if they had the ability to shoot the 3 and rim protect, but this may be wishful thinking with the BI
Would leave us with:
PG - Fox/Carter (8th)
SG - Ellis/Monk (6th)/ Colby (11th)
SF - Ingram/Naji (7th)/Duarte
PF - Murray/Lyles (9th)/Naji(7th)/McDaniels (12th)
C - Sabonis/Back up C (10th)
Also included what order people would be coming off the bench. This would be a 2nd round/WCF team IMO.
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ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
You must have forgot Lyles
LT-Sac-Town
G-League
I sure did, just updated my post
I think my guy is Naji Marshall.
Not just a traditional 3&D wing. Perfect size to slot in at the 4 and be switchable with Keegan. He's got A LOT more comfort handling the ball than you might expect and he's a pretty dang good playmaker. Career 14.2% AST rate is extremely good and shows promise that he's ready for a true breakout, especially if that shot is real. Great size at 6'7 with a 7'0 wingspan
I think he's an impact defender now and there's just some really intriguing signs in his offensive profile that suggests he's probably a great offensive player. And he's a UFA for a team that's already committed to Herb Jones, will have to give a huge raise to Trey Murphy next off-season and still has to figure out where Ingram goes.
Not just a traditional 3&D wing. Perfect size to slot in at the 4 and be switchable with Keegan. He's got A LOT more comfort handling the ball than you might expect and he's a pretty dang good playmaker. Career 14.2% AST rate is extremely good and shows promise that he's ready for a true breakout, especially if that shot is real. Great size at 6'7 with a 7'0 wingspan
I think he's an impact defender now and there's just some really intriguing signs in his offensive profile that suggests he's probably a great offensive player. And he's a UFA for a team that's already committed to Herb Jones, will have to give a huge raise to Trey Murphy next off-season and still has to figure out where Ingram goes.
Hoovtrain
All-Star
that would be amazing
serbiangoat
Starter
After your Hartenstein/Vandervbuilt predictions I'm going to have to agree.
I like Naji. And I believe he's an UFA so no concerns about New Orleans matching or hamstringing our off-season.
And this aligns with my preference to sign an up and coming player vs giving up a bunch of draft capital for someone like Brandon Ingram.
Because then you still have Barnes and Huerter to trade to reshape the roster. I'm still high on trying to get Thybulle and Williams from Portland, who seemingly won't have minutes for either guy next season.
LT-Sac-Town
G-League
I would be very open to a Heurter/Duarte trade for Williams/Thubulle if the wing trade market doesn’t develop. Make Naji our starting #4 and bring Barnes off the bench.
LT-Sac-Town
G-League
Not a JV fan for us because he doesn’t do the two things we need from a backup C. Rim protection and 3 PT shooting.
LPKingsFan
All-Star
To me, a lot of the direction in free agency depends on what you can expect from Coach Brown. Will he still start Barnes over Marshall or another MLE-level forward? Will he actually play Lyles at center? Is there really thought about playing Sabonis at the 4, even though we’ve seen very little of that so far?
Bob Williams would be an outstanding buy low. Dude is ridiculously good anytime he's on the floor...which is the problem, but he'd be a massive massive upgrade for our defense if he managed to put together a Jon Isaac type line of 15 MPG and like 60 games played
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
he played Lyles at center for a large portion of the year last year and it didn’t work out which led to Len getting the backup center role back.
LPKingsFan
All-Star
Basketball reference has Lyles at center in 17% of his minutes last season, and I seem to remember calls here for him to play more center, but these are both admittedly imperfect sources at best.
Either way, I don’t expect to see much of Lyles at center this year, so perhaps there’s an argument for saving some portion of the MLE for a backup center, although part of me dies at the thought of using more than the vet min. Maybe someone like Smith, who could seemingly play both next to and back up Sabonis, would be the best fit.
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
Although the season before, it worked well with Lyles at the 5 with the same players. You wonder sometimes if they rely too much on small sample size stats and not enough on what they're actually seeing.
I sure wouldn't give up on Lyles being an effective player at the 5, when it makes sense with who is on the floor
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
If Monte is wanting to go "big" JV is probably the best option. He can still shoot, isn't really someone expecting to get 36 mpg, and is skilled. MLE for a basically a backup C is an overpay, but if he can play 10 of those minutes next to Domas then it's fine. The issue with Richaun Holmes was he didn't have size nor the shooting or post up ability Valanciunas does which made it an obvious possible disaster in wait. Not sure this would be at all an issue with JV.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Yeah, Lyles at the 5 has to be an offensive stretch 5 gimmicky type. Brown was all in on defense last season not so much shooting any longer. That was clearly the goal in his mind so it's only natural Len eventually grabbed those minutes. Len is by far the best defensive big on the Kings. And as seen, it's not even close. He was a major part of that jump. I think at one point his ratings were the highest on the team during that stretch IIRC.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Looks good on paper, but I think it's too many bodies again. Naji or Lyles would be gobbling up eachothers minutes at some point unless Lyles is the backup C. For the Kings 4 G rotation to actually work, one of Keon or Carter needs minutes at SF. Those few minutes at true backup SF in that instance should be theirs.
The reality is that Murray and Ingram kind of trade off in this scenario the way Lyles and Barnes usually do. Murray goes out, when Ingram comes out, Murray goes in with the transition minutes going to Keon/Carter.
upinsmoke
All-Star
He does however bring toughness and legitimate skilled size something we're scraping the bottom of the barrel for right now. He likely won't cost too much and we keep miles off Sabonis I think it's worth consideration.
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
It's odd how seemingly most are always ready to get rid of Len, when he's consistently been effective for the team in all of his seasons with the Kings. He's sadly underappreciated
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
And it's amazing how Brown always goes with others, then when the others fail, it's right back to Len. I still have to think there's some restriction on how many minutes Len is available for. Otherwise all that time fans were wondering how McGee was playing over Len just looks like WTF haha. It happened the year before too with Metu. Once it got close to the playoffs Brown started playing Len and Metu was on his way out the door.
Maybe if Brown played Len more it would give us more confidence in what he contributes. He was a high draft pick with great size and respectable skill.
I need to look into Marshall a bit more. Anything that depletes New Orleans dominance over us without costing a lot of draft capital, such as Ingram, is welcomed.
Weed is legal here so I get the feeling that he wouldn't mind coming back to CA.
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
Brown, like most everyone else, is always looking for someone better/different. Part of that of course comes with the job as head coach, but for whatever reason, it has been excessive with Len.
I really don't think it has anything to do with a minutes restriction, outside of when he first came back from injury.
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
might be another reason to target someone else. Otherwise it could turn into another "coke machine" situation
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
That might be the case, then that speaks to him believing Len was always a better option as a safety net. See if they work, if not, Lens here, haha.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Another name that was mentioned around here at one point, what about Keldon Johnson? There were reports the Spurs were willing to listen at the end of the season and they just drafted Castle. Might be a good time to take a look if you're Monte.
