Potential Free Agent/Trade/Sign Tracker, '25-'26 Season

I have not been shy about showing off my anti-LaVine bias just as others have not been shy about showing off their anti-Fox bias. I also left out the part where Doug Christie was supposed to elevate this team over Mike Brown who, despite winning two Coach of the Year awards, is evidently too mid for Sacramento fans. How's that working out?

The thing is though this dumpster fire started burning under Browns watch. Much like Doug pulled the pride stuff rip cord waaay early in a panic mode fashion Brown went to the passive aggressive shots after games for too long. Watching Bball a lot of years will show once that happens and it falls flat, it's done. You either build a team around the coach, get a coach for the team, or what most sane franchises do and that's rebuild.
 
The thing is though this dumpster fire started burning under Browns watch. Much like Doug pulled the pride stuff rip cord waaay early in a panic mode fashion Brown went to the passive aggressive shots after games for too long. Watching Bball a lot of years will show once that happens and it falls flat, it's done. You either build a team around the coach, get a coach for the team, or what most sane franchises do and that's rebuild.
I truly believe what we were seeing with Brown was part of the 2 camp struggle between those with Fox and those with Domas. And part of that problem was what side Vivek was choosing.
 
The thing is though this dumpster fire started burning under Browns watch. Much like Doug pulled the pride stuff rip cord waaay early in a panic mode fashion Brown went to the passive aggressive shots after games for too long. Watching Bball a lot of years will show once that happens and it falls flat, it's done. You either build a team around the coach, get a coach for the team, or what most sane franchises do and that's rebuild.
History has shown us that it always burns down under Ranadive's watch, regardless of anyone else who is working for him
 
The thing is though this dumpster fire started burning under Browns watch. Much like Doug pulled the pride stuff rip cord waaay early in a panic mode fashion Brown went to the passive aggressive shots after games for too long. Watching Bball a lot of years will show once that happens and it falls flat, it's done. You either build a team around the coach, get a coach for the team, or what most sane franchises do and that's rebuild.

Speaking on Brown, I would have thought that the previous two years of coaching this group would have earned him more equity with the players and the owner. His message was clear from the beginning that the stakes had gone up, the expectations had gone up, and that meant there was going to be more focus on defense, more focus on getting the details right, and more accountability for mistakes.

I don't think we had a dumpster fire at all under Brown's watch -- that started the day he was fired. We had a team which was underperforming relative to expectation but the peripheral stats showed that they had actually improved from the year before and their expected W-L record was higher than their actual W-L record. If our owner (or maybe GM?) had shown more patience, the actual record eventually would have caught up to the expected record based on performance. Even during that 5 game home losing streak which was apparently the last straw the team lost two of those games by one point each and a third by 4 points. Those single possession losses felt like a disaster back then (this team doesn't know how to finish out games!) but considering where we are now, were they really that bad?

I seem to be in a small minority when it comes to defending Mike Brown here but this concept that he had lost the team is still an open question to me. Using the post-game press conferences to speak to his team was always part of his coaching MO. The intensity of it picked up for a couple months which coincided with some tough losses but again, we were past the point where just making the playoffs was what everyone wanted. I don't think he was wrong to expect or even demand a greater level of professionalism.
 
I heard on the radio today a talk about a big trade involving multiple teams. I guess I joined late because I thought we got Trae Young in a trade and only had to give up Lavine! I guess it was too good to be true lol.
 
I heard on the radio today a talk about a big trade involving multiple teams. I guess I joined late because I thought we got Trae Young in a trade and only had to give up Lavine! I guess it was too good to be true lol.
If you like hating Zach LaVine, you'll love hating Trae Young! And they're basically on the exact same contract.
 
I heard on the radio today a talk about a big trade involving multiple teams. I guess I joined late because I thought we got Trae Young in a trade and only had to give up Lavine! I guess it was too good to be true lol.

I think one of the guys on ESPN proposed that. Had us giving up LaVine and Carter in a 5 team trade to land Trae and someone pointless that we don't need. Can't remember who it was.
 
I think one of the guys on ESPN proposed that. Had us giving up LaVine and Carter in a 5 team trade to land Trae and someone pointless that we don't need. Can't remember who it was.

That sh*t's super annoying, but mostly because this franchise encourages it with their incompetence. Any talking head knows they can toss Sacramento into the trade machine and come up with a "plausible" trade scenario because... Kangz. There's no reason whatsoever that they should be trading for Trae Young at this stage, but... Kangz. 😵‍💫
 

Wizards!?!

That sh*t's super annoying, but mostly because this franchise encourages it with their incompetence. Any talking head knows they can toss Sacramento into the trade machine and come up with a "plausible" trade scenario because... Kangz. There's no reason whatsoever that they should be trading for Trae Young at this stage, but... Kangz. 😵‍💫

I’d be down for Trae if we draft Boozer, AJ, Peterson, or Wilson we’d still need a pg and he could set them up well especially the two bigs
 

Wizards!?!



I’d be down for Trae if we draft Boozer, AJ, Peterson, or Wilson we’d still need a pg and he could set them up well especially the two bigs

Wizards is crazy but you can get there with Middleton being a big expiring. I don't think they'd trade Sarr or George, so probably like

Middleton
2 of Tre Johnson/Bilal/Bub Carrington
2-3 FRP?

From the Wiz perspective, Domas actually fits pretty well next to Sarr/George longterm

Its not horrible, would depend on what those picks look like. The ancillary wiz young guys are sort of whatever
 
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Wizards is crazy but you can get there with Middleton being a big expiring. I don't think they'd trade Sarr or George, so probably like

Middleton
2 of Tre Johnson/Bilal/Bub Carrington
2-3 FRP?

From the Wiz perspective, Domas actually fits pretty well next to Sarr/George longterm

Its not horrible, would depend on what those picks look like. The ancillary wiz young guys are sort of whatever

I'm in Northern VA now, so I actually watch quite a bit of Wizards basketball. And yeah, there's just not a Wiz package for Domas that I'd in love with unless there's at least one prime future first rounder in the package. It's probably gotta be the Wizards' own pick sometime in the next few years, since it's going to be a minute until they climb out of the Eastern Conference basement, and I seriously doubt they'd be willing to part with any of those picks.
 
I'm in Northern VA now, so I actually watch quite a bit of Wizards basketball. And yeah, there's just not a Wiz package for Domas that I'd in love with unless there's at least one prime future first rounder in the package. It's probably gotta be the Wizards' own pick sometime in the next few years, since it's going to be a minute until they climb out of the Eastern Conference basement, and I seriously doubt they'd be willing to part with any of those picks.

I think just being able to clean the Domas contract, get some draft capital from a historically weak franchise and a couple interesting wing prospects is reasonable to look at.

That seems superior to potential bulls or suns packages off the top of my head
 
I think just being able to clean the Domas contract, get some draft capital from a historically weak franchise and a couple interesting wing prospects is reasonable to look at.

That seems superior to potential bulls or suns packages off the top of my head

I certainly don't disagree that a Wiz package for Domas is likely to be more appealing than anything the Bulls or Suns could put together, relative to what the Kings need from such a trade.
 
The Wiz front office might have been part of a group that drafted Sabonis given they came from OKC (too lazy to confirm)

I’d imagine if they are interested it’s them being “prudent and opportunistic”. If they can get Domas for expirings and 2 firsts they probably do it. Doubt they give up much else.
 
Sure, potentially not easy, but I hate to give up on the best player we've had since Webber. Even a full 3-5 year rebuild is unlikely to land us a *better* player, so the threshold for giving up on Domas should be considerably high.

Originally the plan seemed to be to build around Domas/Fox as the two best players with Keegan as the third. This got us the Beam Team year, and the idea after that should have been to build around that. Our big add coming off of the Beam Team year was Sasha Vezenkov, and man, that seemed like a great idea at the time but fell completely flat. That said, we didn't really see that much of a drop-off in record (2 wins) and if you consider that the West was much healthier that second year, maybe we really didn't have a step back, we just didn't take a step forward. So we tried again in year 3 by shipping off Barnes to bring in DeRozan. This was a miscalculation because we didn't recognize how important of a glue player Barnes was and how badly the drop in perimeter defense moving to DDR was going to hurt us since we didn't have a rim protector. And then Fox blew the whole thing sky high.

So it was a multiply-failed build, not an impossible build. We've still got two pieces of it. And then we've got a couple of vets we need to offload. If we add a dynamic on-the-ball perimeter player then we're nearly in the same space we were before. Imagine, for instance, being in position to draft Dybantsa - you wouldn't necessarily play him as "point guard" but he can be a lead perimeter guy who can break down the defense on the dribble.

Then we're working to fill in the blanks with 4th/5th most important starters and a bench crew. One of those blanks would be a 3-and-D perimeter guy, and we kinda can see filling that with Keon or Nique. The other big blank is a rim protector that can play next to Sabonis. That, really, is the biggest ask in my mind - we know that Sabonis didn't work all that well next to Turner, but what about a Derek Lively-type guy? Could that work as a frontcourt?

Then, as for the rest of the rotation, we've got Monk (if we keep him around), the other of Nique/Keon, and Max as a starting point.

So:
Keon / Nique
Dybantsa / Monk
Keegan
Domas
Bouncy Defensive Big / Max

If that's a good start, then we really only need one piece of lotto luck and one smart FA/trade to get there. Yes, there's not a traditional floor general PG in there, but there's good playmaking with Domas and Dybantsa and all the bench guys, and all of sudden we're not at all undersized anymore. 3 of the 5 positions are defenders, with some hope at "SG" simply due to size/athleticism and maybe some DC rubbing off eventually. And this type of a core, especially given the way we're playing this year, is not really that far out of reach. I'd rather try to hit on something like this than burn the whole thing down and start over.
This feels like trying to shortcut the rebuild again. This is what Vivek and co have been doing for 2 decades and we know it doesn't work. It's time to tear it down to the studs. I'm guessing Keegan won't be around for the next variation of this team, but he's about the only one (outside the current rookies) who stands a chance. The reality is we need a 3 year identity shift + lotto luck + Draft luck to be able to build a sustainable playoff team.

Sabonis is already 30 by time Dybantsa is hypothetically on the team. He's 33-35 by time our youth is rounding into form. We also know that Sabonis with some solid 3&D guys and a competent pg is going to be too good to truly tank. Sabonis is the kind of player you have to build around for success, he isn't a plug and play. Right now I only want plug and play guys until we find our stars.

Of all the players on this team, Sabonis is the one who needs to get traded the most. LaVine helps the tank, he doesn't hurt it. Demar will be gone next year regardless of what we decide to do. Monk is a role player who won't change the win column too much. Russ/Sabonis are the guys who lead to unnecessary wins while this team needs to go a different direction.

Side note: I highly disagree Sabonis is the best player we've had since Webber. Cousins was far more talented, and in his peak a true top 5-10 player in the league. Sabonis did an excellent job with a team/coach that built a team to give him maximum impact, but at no point has he been a top 10 player in the league. Top 20 is pushing it, and if the play post fox is any indication, hes closer to somewhere in the top 40. That doesn't even start on Fox who is carrying a Wemby-less Spurs to the 4th best record in the west.
 
Wizards is crazy but you can get there with Middleton being a big expiring. I don't think they'd trade Sarr or George, so probably like

Middleton
2 of Tre Johnson/Bilal/Bub Carrington
2-3 FRP?

From the Wiz perspective, Domas actually fits pretty well next to Sarr/George longterm

Its not horrible, would depend on what those picks look like. The ancillary wiz young guys are sort of whatever
This makes a lot of sense for both teams. But I highly doubt Sabonis pulls 2 of the young guys (especially Bilal and Johnson) and 2-3 FRP.

I would be thrilled to walk away from this trade with Bilal/Middleton, any 1st is the cherry on top. To me this feels like Middleton + AJ Johnson + Will Riley + 1 1st. And truthfully I'd still do that. You get 3 prospects and a clear cap sheet in 1 swoop.

For the Wizards, I think they get Sabonis, sit in the rest of the year, add 1 more top tier draft pick to the fold. Then go into next year with
Bilal - Johnson - George - Sarr - Sabonis + top 5 pick. They are a team that desperately needs these young guys to start getting some experience winning, plenty of guys to develop at this point.
 
If I was running the team
1st step - Cut Russ, thanks for your service, find a contender its been fun
2nd step - Trade Sabonis. Return isn't as important, if we can add a few 1sts I'd be happy. Stack future assets
3rd step - Trade Demar. Appreciate your contribution, any expiring contract will do.
4th step - Will any team take Schroder? Again any expiring will do.

Give as many minutes to Carter, Nique, Keon, Maxime, Keegan as we possibly can. Let Monk do his thing and showcase his talent, hopefully we can find a trade for him this summer when he has 2 years left. Do everything you can to secure a top 3 pick.
 
Russ is the only reason to watch this team right now. He's great, and he's not helping them win. It's perfect.

He's also playing well enough someone will trade for him that thinks he can play on their playoff roster. Even a 2nd round pick is just gravy.
 
Russ is the only reason to watch this team right now. He's great, and he's not helping them win. It's perfect.

He's also playing well enough someone will trade for him that thinks he can play on their playoff roster. Even a 2nd round pick is just gravy.
Yep, I've done a 180 on Russ. One guy I want young players to watch and see what it takes in the league is Russ. Never gives up and always hustling.
 
Side note: I highly disagree Sabonis is the best player we've had since Webber. Cousins was far more talented, and in his peak a true top 5-10 player in the league.
I'll wait for the statistical argument that Cousins was a better player than Sabonis. There's not much to grab onto there. I've looked.

"Talent" here, however we measure that, means very little when the on-court production doesn't match the picture in our heads.
 
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