SacTownKid
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No, that’s not right. The $180 mil is AFTER they have resigned. Their cap holds lower that figure.
Like I said, what happened to all those pieces in the interim?
No, that’s not right. The $180 mil is AFTER they have resigned. Their cap holds lower that figure.
They would be included in the payrollLike I said, what happened to all those pieces in the interim?
They would be included in the payroll
You’re right. That is the disconnect.See, that's the disconnect here. The Kings payroll as it is projected out to 2026 doesn't have them on it at all, nor the picks and it's at around 220.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/sacramento-kings/cap/_/year/2026/sort/cap_total
You’re right. That is the disconnect.
The clarification is that you’re counting the cap holds for Barnes, Huerter, and Vezenkov into that $220 mil. That’s $68.7 mil across those 3 players when they were making $44 mil the previous year. So if those players are traded for a player(s) that makes a similar amount as their 2025-26 amount (but expires 1 year later), it will be around the $44 mil amount (not the $68.7 mil amount) which then gives McNair the opportunity to make that “big” trade in the 2026 off-season without those tax apron restrictions kicking in.
Again, McNair is not backed up against the wall.![]()
Well that’s where that MLE comes into play as well, yeah?It's not counting picks, exception holds, and in that case again, where are they going? My point is if you don't fill that salary slot, as you said with someone like Grant, then you are letting them go bye bye or re-signing them. I've never said the Kings were a surefire 2nd apron team if they let players walk, but the issue is letting players walk or not even adding any pieces from now to then for the long term. At this point I don't see the point. You're over the cap and once done nearing the luxury tax on an incomplete roster.
Well that’s where that MLE comes into play as well, yeah?
And of course the picks aren’t included yet but you have to keep in mind that we likely won’t have a 2025 1st. There will be some additional contracts along the way but looking at the big, core contracts we will have, I’m not too concerned with approaching those tax aprons prior to us making a big trade.
Why is it very unlikely that someone would trade for a couple of expiring contracts while only having to give up a 2 year contract?Again, backing into the wall more though haha, probably can't replace a Huerter or Barnes, let along both with that. Very unlikely. Possible, but yet another gamble on the wait plan. Besides this might all be moot in another number of minutes.![]()
Why is it very unlikely that someone would trade for a couple of expiring contracts while only having to give up a 2 year contract?
Well isn’t your whole point that you want to use those guys to trade for LaVine, Randle, etc.? You’d have the same issueI'm talking about replacing their value on the roster with a MLE signing.
Well isn’t your whole point that you want to use those guys to trade for LaVine, Randle, etc.? You’d have the same issue![]()
Sure, I do.No, I consider that condensing and upgrading. In your scenario you have none of them.
Sure, I do.
We either…
That’s the definition of “condensing and upgrading”
- Trade Barnes/Huerter/Vezenkov for a big piece during the 2024 offseason
- Trade Barnes/Huerter/Vezenkov for a big piece during the 2025 offseason
- Trade Barnes/Huerter/Vezenkov for a 2 year contract during the 2025 off-season or at the 2025-26 deadline, and then trade that future expiring for a big piece during the 2026 offseason
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I think the sweet spot is next off-season. That gives us the extra data points on Murray and Ellis to have a better idea of who we should target in that big trade. The 2026-27 off-season is a last resort but I needed to explain that it’s still an option which technically gives McNair 3 off-seasons to find that trade…thus he’s not backed into a corner.Maybe, depending on what's available. Again, what if there isn't a deal to be had? Backing, further, further... corner. hahaha. More time, the better. That's my point.
I think the sweet spot is next off-season. That gives us the extra data points on Murray and Ellis to have a better idea of who we should target in that big trade. The 2026-27 off-season is a last resort but I needed to explain that it’s still an option which technically gives McNair 3 off-seasons to find that trade…thus he’s not backed into a corner.![]()
I mean…aren’t most GMs?It's not, it's heading that direction though.
I mean…aren’t most GMs?![]()
The offseason is still young, my friend!The Knicks are but they chose how they got there. That's the goal.
If you don't think Monte is watching for strategic ways to improve the team, I don't know what to tell you. They are definitely not sitting on their hands thinking what we have is "championship caliber". But they also aren't going to just blow it up or make rash moves, either. If the moves aren't there to improve the team, you don't panic. You also can't make moves in a vacuum. It takes two to tango, and like we've seen recently, some trades are heavily influenced by the players themselves (Pascal, for instance). You can't blame him for not landing that one when the player was the one who nixed it.
I have to believe we had a few trades depending on who was available at 13.
But with Carter sitting there the temptation to keep the pick was to great to pass up.
we may have to sweeten the offers for a trade now but I like how it’s gone so far.
With carter expected to make around $4M and Keon making $2.1, and Malik just resigning (or soon to resign), Davion ($6M) unfortunately is the odd man out, and huerter too. I like both but dont see much role for davion moving forward.I have to believe we had a few trades depending on who was available at 13.
But with Carter sitting there the temptation to keep the pick was to great to pass up.
we may have to sweeten the offers for a trade now but I like how it’s gone so far.
True but my main concern is the guy just never seems to be available. Injury prone and overpaid is another issueAnd once these new deals start coming in? 232 for OG? LaVine's deal won't look so bad and only goes for 3 years.
True but my main concern is the guy just never seems to be available. Injury prone and overpaid is another issue