Playoff Update (Merged)
- Thread starter troosvelt
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Utah, 33-37 as of 03-29-06am
vs Kings, 1-3
3-29 @Denver
3-31 @LA Clips
4-01 @Portland
4-04 San Antonio
4-07 @Minnesota
4-08 Portland
4-10 Houston
4-12 Denver
4-14 @NO/Okla. City
4-16 @Dallas
4-17 @San Antonio
4-19 Golden State
NO/Oklahoma 32-37 as of 3-29 am
vs. Kings 2-1
3-29 @Golden State
3-31 Memphis
4-02 @Toronto
4-04 @Detroit
4-05 Golden State
4-07 Toronto
4-08 @Dallas
4-10 Cleveland
4-12 Seattle
4-14 Utah
4-16 @Sacramento - a Kings loss here gives tie-breaker to them
4-17 @Phoenix
4-19 @LA Lakers
Not a walk in the park for anyone ..........
vs Kings, 1-3
3-29 @Denver
3-31 @LA Clips
4-01 @Portland
4-04 San Antonio
4-07 @Minnesota
4-08 Portland
4-10 Houston
4-12 Denver
4-14 @NO/Okla. City
4-16 @Dallas
4-17 @San Antonio
4-19 Golden State
NO/Oklahoma 32-37 as of 3-29 am
vs. Kings 2-1
3-29 @Golden State
3-31 Memphis
4-02 @Toronto
4-04 @Detroit
4-05 Golden State
4-07 Toronto
4-08 @Dallas
4-10 Cleveland
4-12 Seattle
4-14 Utah
4-16 @Sacramento - a Kings loss here gives tie-breaker to them
4-17 @Phoenix
4-19 @LA Lakers
Not a walk in the park for anyone ..........
Utah's schedule is every bi as hard as ours. As I mentioned in another thread, all we likely have to do is win 4 or 5 of the remaining ones to slip in. But I also ask once agian, if we back in that way, what exactly will be the point? Just to get humiliated on national TV 4 times by the Spurs? Go in strong or...?
The point would be that not too long ago the general sentiment was to put a fork in them 'cause they were done. They have done a remarkable job to even get back into contention. It may take everything to get there with nothing left, but at least they would have gotten there with a brighter tomorrow.
What would be worse, get swept from a legit contender or stink it up so bad that you don't even get a crack at them?
What would be worse, get swept from a legit contender or stink it up so bad that you don't even get a crack at them?
Ah, but option #2 carries with it the possibility, remote though it be, of getting lucky and landing a stud who can add 100 wins to the franchise over the course of his career. Do you think the Spurs are unhappy they missed the playoffs back in '97?
Unless you've sucked for a good long time (ala the Warriors) the playoffs aren't some Holy Grail where ooh! We made the playoffs consisting of half the teams in the league! They're a means to an end (the championship). If we bumble on into the playoffs falling apart, unsure of who we are, and run into the world champs -- there is just about no hope. Its an exercise in futility. And you give a team that one day you might like to be gunning for the clear sense of superiority that comes from kicking somebody's *** in the playoffs.
Unless you've sucked for a good long time (ala the Warriors) the playoffs aren't some Holy Grail where ooh! We made the playoffs consisting of half the teams in the league! They're a means to an end (the championship). If we bumble on into the playoffs falling apart, unsure of who we are, and run into the world champs -- there is just about no hope. Its an exercise in futility. And you give a team that one day you might like to be gunning for the clear sense of superiority that comes from kicking somebody's *** in the playoffs.
Now there I agree with you. In fact at this point the "keeping Ron's head straight with the Kings" might be the only real strong reason TO make the playoffs (assuming its as a #8 vs. Spurs). Of course that's ridiculous, and might just be speculation. But that's about it. Come roaring in as the #6 seed witha legit shot to unseed Denver? Sure, down with that. See what happens. But if it comes to a question of having our weakness dramatically exposed for the world to see in a first round smackdown, or being that team that everyone remembers as being "dangerous" while our guys pride gets hurt by the failure ase are no longer able to live in denial about still being "a contender"...
The team is too brittle now to have even second round hopes, but some substantial PO minutes for Martin and Cisco would be good, as for the rest of the team.
The team is starting to gel, but we're still missing pieces. We can't seem to handle losing any of our 8 major players for any length of time. Recall that the problems really started with Cisco's ill-fated ball retrieval, and now Martin's injury has only made it worse.
Hopefully Monia can add some of that fast, athletic play we get from the young guns.
The team is starting to gel, but we're still missing pieces. We can't seem to handle losing any of our 8 major players for any length of time. Recall that the problems really started with Cisco's ill-fated ball retrieval, and now Martin's injury has only made it worse.
Hopefully Monia can add some of that fast, athletic play we get from the young guns.
You always want the team to play as hard as it can. Anything else is corrosive to morale.
But now you're not on the team, you're outside as a GM or a fan, and you can take a step back and look at the bigger picture from a strategic perspective. Indeed, if the GM isn't, he's not doing his job.
Mentioned before, winnind one more game this year and sacrificing 100 in the future in the process just about epitomizes counterproductive. Players have to be shortsighted and just give their best, but its not required of everybody else.
But now you're not on the team, you're outside as a GM or a fan, and you can take a step back and look at the bigger picture from a strategic perspective. Indeed, if the GM isn't, he's not doing his job.
Mentioned before, winnind one more game this year and sacrificing 100 in the future in the process just about epitomizes counterproductive. Players have to be shortsighted and just give their best, but its not required of everybody else.
As you stated yourself, the odds are very much against the last team not to make the playoffs to get a top pick. Even if they did manage to get lucky, what one player is THE player? No consensus on that.
And the chances are, your strategic planning just swapped the sixtenth pick for the fourtenth. No one expects the eigth seed to take out the first seed. Not many even expect the eigth seed to even put a serious challenge to the first seed. There is no shame being dismissed as expected. But the fun it would be to be the first eighth seed to take out that top seed, no matter how unlikely.
And the chances are, your strategic planning just swapped the sixtenth pick for the fourtenth. No one expects the eigth seed to take out the first seed. Not many even expect the eigth seed to even put a serious challenge to the first seed. There is no shame being dismissed as expected. But the fun it would be to be the first eighth seed to take out that top seed, no matter how unlikely.
There is no fun in being spanked. Nor any wisdom in intentionally putting yourself in the position to be so. We are not remotely ready for a team like the Spurs. There IS wisdom in knowing your limitations and planning accordingly.
As an aside, the first #8 seed to beat a #1 was the Nuggets back in...'94? Something like that. Against Seattle. Of course Seattle had never won anything at the time, were notoriously flaky, and the series was only 5 games long.
As an aside, the first #8 seed to beat a #1 was the Nuggets back in...'94? Something like that. Against Seattle. Of course Seattle had never won anything at the time, were notoriously flaky, and the series was only 5 games long.
This reminds me of the 49ers season last year. They were 2-12 heading into week 15 and ended beating he Rams on the road and then beating Houston in the final game of the year. Weird how my sports worls are intertwined.
I'm not trying to oversipmly the situation and appreciate your big picture view. I just believe that once the season starts the dye is cast to a certain extent.
I'm not trying to oversipmly the situation and appreciate your big picture view. I just believe that once the season starts the dye is cast to a certain extent.
Grizz at Hornets - I definitely see the Grizzlies winning this after the way they lost their last two games.
Lakers at Sonics - Lakers played last night, Sonics are an improved team since they got their trade guys in, and are always tough at home. Doesn't mean it's a definite loss for the Lakers, but I'm giving the Sonics the edge here.
Jazz at Clippers - Clips get revenge from earlier this month.
Lakers at Sonics - Lakers played last night, Sonics are an improved team since they got their trade guys in, and are always tough at home. Doesn't mean it's a definite loss for the Lakers, but I'm giving the Sonics the edge here.
Jazz at Clippers - Clips get revenge from earlier this month.
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