Ok, Ummm, Is It Really That Bad? (Kings/Lakers Discussion)
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I will agree to everything with the possible exception of #2. I think DC did about as good as anyone could have tonight. I saw a lot of times when Kobe couldn't take his shot and was forced to pass the ball. Unfortunately, he passed it to Brown or Odom or Atkins, who usually hit the shot...
If I may:
7) The team needs to make it a rule that they CANNOT shoot until three Kings have touched the ball on a possession. We pass; we score. It's that simple.
If I may:
7) The team needs to make it a rule that they CANNOT shoot until three Kings have touched the ball on a possession. We pass; we score. It's that simple.
The question is what to do about it. The first unit is not going to be consistent on D. It has never been and never will. So the question is what to do about it. Adelmen shouldn't be afraid to sub in guys when the guys playing at the time bury themselves in a hole. A few stops are better then none. There was a perfect opprotunity tonight but Adelman just figured they'd work through it.
He should have pulled a move like against the Bucks with this lineup:
Bibby
Christie
Peja
Darius
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This is the closest lineup we have to a defensive unit.
He should have pulled a move like against the Bucks with this lineup:
Bibby
Christie
Peja
Darius
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This is the closest lineup we have to a defensive unit.
I think you guys are focusing on the offense too much. We shot 45% tonight the Kings should be able to destroy teams by shooting that well. Tonight the Defense cost them. Sure the offense was disjointed but the only way the Kings could've won is by shooting 55.5%. That is not the right way to look at it. You shouldn't have to out shoot every team to beat them. Kerr was right tonight in his statement about championship teams making those stops.
I am a homer. You guys know it. I defend this team at every turn. But there is NO defense for forgetting one of the things that has made the Kings a success. Webber trying to go one-on-one against Odom miffed me. I saw red, however, when it became apparent they had forgotten how to pass or how to let the play develop. Bobby cost us points; Bibby cost us points; Webber cost us points. Pedja wasn't hitting much but he was moving a lot. Miller at least took some shots tonight instead of acting like he'd forgotten he was supposed to do that when he was open. I can't fault Doug. I think he played as tough a defense on Kobe as anyone wearing a Kings uniform could have...
I get very frustrated when the Kings play mindless ball. This was one of those times. Luckily, they are usually few and far between.
I get very frustrated when the Kings play mindless ball. This was one of those times. Luckily, they are usually few and far between.
The kings tonight didn't play smart basketball,they for some reason got caught up in a quick pace game that wasn't suitable for the players that we put on the floor,their were too many quick shots with no one underneath the basket which alot of the quick 15 ft shots by the high post offensive players led to easy buckets by the lakers.The kings didn't move the basketball around enough they used one side of the floor which was easy for the lakers to defend,if the kings moved the ball around and had more patience this would have made it tougher for the lakers to get out and run and it would have also put their defense to sleep by making them work more and use more energy,picks and ball movement wear on defenders after a while,this would have zap alot of kobe's energy that he used offensively.
another thing is the defense, perimeter D and interior D,alot of what the kings do defensively depends on their offense and part of what went on wrong with the D was the absence of greg O on the floor he could have help alot by being an interior presence defensively against the penetration which caused the lakers to get the good looks,the double teams on kobe gave the lakers good open looks,with Greg in the game we could afford to not double on the perimeter so much .Greg being in the game doug could have forced kobe to better help positions without leaving the many open looks the lakers got,so with Greg in the game the double teams would be at the last minute instead of early or in inabalance rotation spots.
another thing is the defense, perimeter D and interior D,alot of what the kings do defensively depends on their offense and part of what went on wrong with the D was the absence of greg O on the floor he could have help alot by being an interior presence defensively against the penetration which caused the lakers to get the good looks,the double teams on kobe gave the lakers good open looks,with Greg in the game we could afford to not double on the perimeter so much .Greg being in the game doug could have forced kobe to better help positions without leaving the many open looks the lakers got,so with Greg in the game the double teams would be at the last minute instead of early or in inabalance rotation spots.
Every team has bad nights, the Kings have their share as well. It just sux that this one had to be against LA, would much rather see them fold up againt Charolt or Chicago, but oh well. Two bright sides to this debacle. 1. This may be the motivation the team needs to take their game to the next level and play tougher D, devlop an inside game, and learning to exploit their passing game on a more consistant basis. 2. We ddi get to Darius put the Kobester on his butt, and that was darn near priceless.
Lakers really did play great ball, Kobe in particular kept his ego in check.
If it makes anybody feel any better I can recall a game earlier this year where Seattle dropped 113 on the Spurs, including 41 4th quarter points where they just crushed them. Sucks, but as long as its a one-game phenomenon its one of those things that happens (particualrly to su -- the more common San Antonio flameout would be a nigth whent hey cannto score because they always walk that line, a normal Sacto flameout is on defensesince that is where we struggle to maintain consistency).
If it makes anybody feel any better I can recall a game earlier this year where Seattle dropped 113 on the Spurs, including 41 4th quarter points where they just crushed them. Sucks, but as long as its a one-game phenomenon its one of those things that happens (particualrly to su -- the more common San Antonio flameout would be a nigth whent hey cannto score because they always walk that line, a normal Sacto flameout is on defensesince that is where we struggle to maintain consistency).