Kings NBA Draft Workouts
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A lot of interesting info in this article:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-favorscousins061310
I find it, ahem, "amusing" that we were testing 6'11" 290lb DeMarcus Cousins' ability as a pick and pop player as a manner of talent assessment. Only in Sacramento.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-favorscousins061310
I find it, ahem, "amusing" that we were testing 6'11" 290lb DeMarcus Cousins' ability as a pick and pop player as a manner of talent assessment. Only in Sacramento.
The end of that article is utterly ridiculous. #5 for a deal with Prince as the main piece? Kings eager to add a veteran small forward? Right, cause we just don't have enough of players at that position. Terrible journalism.
Anyway, if I were Geoff, I'd have no interest in moving down. Cousins or Johnson.
Amusing sure, but the fact is that the Kings have always (at least since Petrie's been GM) run every big man through the exact same workout regardless of what their strength or skillset is. It makes it easier to directly compare them to the rest of the class as well as see how they stack up to players they've brought in during previous years.
I respect your opinion, and I hope you're right. Givony mentions that Minny won't in fact work out Cousins and it seems they've settled on Johnson, so much so that they have him going 4 in their mock draft now, with Monroe still going to us. If we pass on Cousins OR Johnson for Monroe I'm going to be EXTREMELY disappointed, but especially if Cousins is still there
I was getting ready to post the same article. Glad I found this post first.. Yeah, I guess Petrie has a set workout that he puts everyone through. Aparently Cousins has been working on his shot. I honestly don't have a problem with a center taking shots from 15 to 17 feet on occasion. What I don't want is him hanging out behind the 3pt line.
Lets face it. If Cousins moves out to the elbow and the other team has to respect his shot from there, it helps open up the lane for Evans. I mean if you going to run the pick and roll with Cousins, then he has to be able to hit that mid-range shot.
Lets face it. If Cousins moves out to the elbow and the other team has to respect his shot from there, it helps open up the lane for Evans. I mean if you going to run the pick and roll with Cousins, then he has to be able to hit that mid-range shot.
In an interview, Khan raved about Millicic and Nikola Pekovic, said he really want to keep Darko and bring Pekovic over to the states. Keeping Darko is an expensive endeavor, he made $7.5 millions last season and probably looking for a raise. We're talking about a $40-$50 millions contract, you don't give out money like that unless the guy is a major piece. As much as it puzzles me why anyone would think of Millicic as a major piece, whatever, it is what it is. Maybe Khan knows something I don't. But the T-wolves' front court is set with Jefferson/Love/Millicic and possibly Pekovic. They want to fill their wing position, Wesley Johnson makes sense there.
When it comes to the Kings looking to trade their pick, it's just as likely that GP is looking to move UP int he draft. If the Wolves want to trade down to take Johnson, the most likely partner is us or Golden State. The rumor of the Kings looking to trade their pick could be a signal to the T-Wolves - even if Khan is sure the Kings won't draft Johnson, there is no garauntee whoever ends up picking #5 won't.
Furthermore, I'm hard pressed to believe there's anything the Warriors can give the T-Wolves that the Kings can't. My preferred trade is Minny's #4 for #5 + Aileen Vosin (aka Rubio's mistress).
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When it comes to the Kings looking to trade their pick, it's just as likely that GP is looking to move UP int he draft. If the Wolves want to trade down to take Johnson, the most likely partner is us or Golden State. The rumor of the Kings looking to trade their pick could be a signal to the T-Wolves - even if Khan is sure the Kings won't draft Johnson, there is no garauntee whoever ends up picking #5 won't.
Furthermore, I'm hard pressed to believe there's anything the Warriors can give the T-Wolves that the Kings can't. My preferred trade is Minny's #4 for #5 + Aileen Vosin (aka Rubio's mistress).
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Pick and pop - off. I believe Petrie will pick Cousins but if he doesn't I'm fine with whoever he picks or whatever he does. We do need a veteran talent - anywhere - I believe that is very important to this team now. We need lots of everything. You name it we need it. I don't believe we are just going for a first and second rounder and quit. I think at least, at least the draft and one talented vet and maybe one more. Building for the future is just great but I think the Kings feel the need to get a significant hunk done now.
I'd hate it on draft night but I'd give Petrie a momentary pass if that actually transpired.
Reason being, the ONLY justification for passing on Cousins for Monroe if DC is there at the fifth pick would be that Geoff sees something very substantial in terms of red flags.
And in that case it would be a momentary pass because if the season comes around and reports are that Cousins is out of shape, disinterested, clashing with teammates etc and in short lead to a flame out then I'd praise Petrie for the foresight.
But if the Kings were to pass on him and he translates to the NBA the way I think he will (14-16 ppg 9-10 rpg in his rookie year) then I'd be calling for Geoff's head.
If Cousins is there and his focus really is on basketball and being a force in the league then he could be EXACTLY what this Kings franchise needs.
Reason being, the ONLY justification for passing on Cousins for Monroe if DC is there at the fifth pick would be that Geoff sees something very substantial in terms of red flags.
And in that case it would be a momentary pass because if the season comes around and reports are that Cousins is out of shape, disinterested, clashing with teammates etc and in short lead to a flame out then I'd praise Petrie for the foresight.
But if the Kings were to pass on him and he translates to the NBA the way I think he will (14-16 ppg 9-10 rpg in his rookie year) then I'd be calling for Geoff's head.
If Cousins is there and his focus really is on basketball and being a force in the league then he could be EXACTLY what this Kings franchise needs.
Call me crazy, and I really have no empirical basis for this prediction, but I have a funny feeling we're gonna end up with Favors.
Cousins and Favors have a head-to-head workout in Jersey on June 21, if Cousins is impressive I could see Jersey dealing the pick and someone grabbing Cousins at 3. Now Favors vs. Johnson would be interesting for David Kahn.
Again, Favors more than likely goes #3, and I'm not Carnac, but I just have an odd feeling we'll get Favors...
That being said my ideal pick would be Cousins
Cousins and Favors have a head-to-head workout in Jersey on June 21, if Cousins is impressive I could see Jersey dealing the pick and someone grabbing Cousins at 3. Now Favors vs. Johnson would be interesting for David Kahn.
Again, Favors more than likely goes #3, and I'm not Carnac, but I just have an odd feeling we'll get Favors...
That being said my ideal pick would be Cousins
I've had that same feeling for a while. Yes, Favors seems like a much better fit alongside Brook Lopez than Cousins, but that doesn't mean New Jersey won't roll the dice with DC if they think he's the better prospect.
And honestly, I could see New Jersey grabbing Wes Johnson if he really impresseses. Hell, Philly could take Cousins and Turner could fall into Jersey's lap. Either way, I absolutely don't see Minny taking Favors.
I think it's a much more likely scenario than people realize. I think Wall and Turner will be off the board. Wall is absolutely going #1 and even if for some reason Philly passes on Turner, I don't think he wouldn't get past NJ and Minn but even that's a possibility.
In my mind one of the top five players in this draft will be available. And right now it seems to me that there are pretty much even odds of it being Favors, Cousins or Johnson with a VERY slim chance of it being Turner. After consensus top 3 pick Paul Pierce falling to 10 I'm not ruling anything out other than Wall not being available at pick #2.
And honestly, I'd be okay with whichever of those players is available.
In terms of what I'd want for the Kings I have them ranked Cousins, Johnson (really), Turner and then Favors but I really think any of them could help this Kings team.
And honestly, I could see New Jersey grabbing Wes Johnson if he really impresseses. Hell, Philly could take Cousins and Turner could fall into Jersey's lap. Either way, I absolutely don't see Minny taking Favors.
I think it's a much more likely scenario than people realize. I think Wall and Turner will be off the board. Wall is absolutely going #1 and even if for some reason Philly passes on Turner, I don't think he wouldn't get past NJ and Minn but even that's a possibility.
In my mind one of the top five players in this draft will be available. And right now it seems to me that there are pretty much even odds of it being Favors, Cousins or Johnson with a VERY slim chance of it being Turner. After consensus top 3 pick Paul Pierce falling to 10 I'm not ruling anything out other than Wall not being available at pick #2.
And honestly, I'd be okay with whichever of those players is available.
In terms of what I'd want for the Kings I have them ranked Cousins, Johnson (really), Turner and then Favors but I really think any of them could help this Kings team.
You're right, they could think that rotation would work well. And Kahn did take Flynn and Rubio in the same draft so you can't really predict what he'll do. But all year the T'Wolves have suffered from trying to play two PFs, neither of which is cut out to be a center in the NBA. I don't see why they would add to that log jam with another guy whose best position is the 4.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog?name=nba_draft&id=5285137
The gist of the Kings section was that the Petrie had liked Monroe better than Cousins leading into the workout as the safer prospect. However Cousins had a much better workout than Monroe did. The Kings don't think Favors will be there so its down to Monroe, Cousins, and Johnson.
Cousins is down to 13% body fat from the 16.4% in Chicago. Good for him.
The gist of the Kings section was that the Petrie had liked Monroe better than Cousins leading into the workout as the safer prospect. However Cousins had a much better workout than Monroe did. The Kings don't think Favors will be there so its down to Monroe, Cousins, and Johnson.
Cousins is down to 13% body fat from the 16.4% in Chicago. Good for him.
What if Cousins isn't pickable by the Kings, that is, they don't want him and aren't going to pick him. What are the best scenarios then. This probably won't occur but it is certainly a reasonable possibility. Their choices: pick someone else, the obvious being Johnson, Monroe, etc.; trade up or down, both of those provide an opportunity to move someone on the roster now and/or acquire a player from another team. In other words if not Cousins, who?
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/16721/nuggets-looking-to-move-up-in-draft
UGH the thought of moving down in the draft.
UGH the thought of moving down in the draft.
