Kings active in trade talks?
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That is absolutely true and certainly could be part of the thinking behind such a move if it is being considered.
The unfortunate part is that if such a deal went down for that reason it would only start to confirm my fears with D'Allessandro - namely that he's a shrewd capologist who doesn't have an eye for talent or the vision to build a winning team.
A PG platoon of a re-signed Isaiah Thomas and Jarrett Jack isn't taking this team where it needs to go and is also likely eating up $13 million or so of caproom for the next two years.
I'm not expressly against trading for Jack as a deal for Landry cuts off a year of wasted money and gives a more useful player in his stead. But trading Thornton (or Williams) for him does neither. A package of Jimmer and Outlaw is even worse as it takes two small and soon ending contracts for a guy signed for two more seasons past this one. And trading JT for him gives the Kings a backup PG who is neither a defender nor a distributor in exchange for our current starting PF who could be very useful on a good team as a the first big off the bench swinging between PF & C. I just don't like the idea of trading anyone other than Landry for Jack.
And I'd love to see the Kings resign IT. If it was for a sixth man role for sixth man money. But trading for Jack as the backup in part to open up caproom to resign IT just strikes me as a perfectly terrible idea.
Those first two reasons are the same ones given for signing Landry which I still think was an awful move. And I can't see Jack being moved into a starting role. I don't think it gives the Kings any improvement over starting IT. I was okay with Vasquez starting over Thomas even though he was an inferior talent because he brought a very different mindset and offensive approach as a true distributor. I don't view Jack as a guy that will run the offesnse any better than Thomas.
The unfortunate part is that if such a deal went down for that reason it would only start to confirm my fears with D'Allessandro - namely that he's a shrewd capologist who doesn't have an eye for talent or the vision to build a winning team.
A PG platoon of a re-signed Isaiah Thomas and Jarrett Jack isn't taking this team where it needs to go and is also likely eating up $13 million or so of caproom for the next two years.
I'm not expressly against trading for Jack as a deal for Landry cuts off a year of wasted money and gives a more useful player in his stead. But trading Thornton (or Williams) for him does neither. A package of Jimmer and Outlaw is even worse as it takes two small and soon ending contracts for a guy signed for two more seasons past this one. And trading JT for him gives the Kings a backup PG who is neither a defender nor a distributor in exchange for our current starting PF who could be very useful on a good team as a the first big off the bench swinging between PF & C. I just don't like the idea of trading anyone other than Landry for Jack.
And I'd love to see the Kings resign IT. If it was for a sixth man role for sixth man money. But trading for Jack as the backup in part to open up caproom to resign IT just strikes me as a perfectly terrible idea.
Those first two reasons are the same ones given for signing Landry which I still think was an awful move. And I can't see Jack being moved into a starting role. I don't think it gives the Kings any improvement over starting IT. I was okay with Vasquez starting over Thomas even though he was an inferior talent because he brought a very different mindset and offensive approach as a true distributor. I don't view Jack as a guy that will run the offesnse any better than Thomas.
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I would take Kyle Anderson at 20 pick
In fact, we should make a trade for him. I'd give up D-Will for him. He's going to be an all-star. He's improved tremendously this year and can keep going cause of his brilliant vision he'll get playing time for sure.
I hope our FO is looking into him.
As for lottery, we have plenty of options and a lot of these guys have HOF potential.
In fact, we should make a trade for him. I'd give up D-Will for him. He's going to be an all-star. He's improved tremendously this year and can keep going cause of his brilliant vision he'll get playing time for sure.
I hope our FO is looking into him.
As for lottery, we have plenty of options and a lot of these guys have HOF potential.
Terry is done. Evans can still bring Acy-like production. Meh deal. Would I do it? Yea, I guess so, but it's nothing to get excited about. Doesn't move the scale in any direction, really.
I'd rather explore something for Jack and the Cavs.
Interesting to see that Thornton is moveable though. Looks like he'll be gone by thursday.
I'd rather explore something for Jack and the Cavs.
Interesting to see that Thornton is moveable though. Looks like he'll be gone by thursday.
I guess I'm okay with a potential Brooklyn-Cleveland-Sacramento three way. I'm not the biggest Jarrett Jack fan, but I guess Malone likes him. I'm also okay if Cleveland isn't involved. The team saves a little cash and gains two veteran presences in exchange for a guy without much experience winning.
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Don't mind dealing Thornton for equivalent contracts. Perhaps he is just becoming a semi cancer on and off the floor with a negative demeanor. That really leaves you thin at the two and I have to probably see an outlaw get minutes, which might not be too bad if the objective isn't wins/losses
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the problem with the Terry/Evans report is that a) it leaves us with only a terrible rookie at SG, and b) it doensn;t actually save us any money, as Terry and Evans are both signed through next year at similar combined numbers to Thornton. Maybe we figure they will be more moveable pieces than the one big Thornton lump this summer.
Alternately all this chatter might mean that we intend to do all of the deals and trade IT, Ben, 2 pcks, Thornton and Jimmer -- in other words our entire stinky backcourt -- for Rondo, Jack, Terry and Evans. Upgrade that even Rondo would have to respect.
Alternately all this chatter might mean that we intend to do all of the deals and trade IT, Ben, 2 pcks, Thornton and Jimmer -- in other words our entire stinky backcourt -- for Rondo, Jack, Terry and Evans. Upgrade that even Rondo would have to respect.
Meh deal if there isnt anything else in the works. Not that MT isnt garbage mind you, but as has been mentioned, he expires soon.
IF this is part of us trying to get rid of Landry, then cool. But I think that dude is going to be with us for a while...I cant imagine very many GMs want a short, older PF who doesnt rebound, play defense, or pass the ball and is locked into a long term deal(well, besides PDA that is).
I'd rather we dont trade JT. He would be an excellent 3rd big (as opposed to a rather mediocre starter). He is one of our few valuable pieces though...Despite what some posters on here think. Just the kind of big playoff teams would love to add to their bench. JT being with us post deadline is probably 50/50. I can see him getting traded either as a throw in on a larger deal or in some kind of role player swap.
Given PDA's (admittedly short) track record, we're bound to do SOMETHING.
IF this is part of us trying to get rid of Landry, then cool. But I think that dude is going to be with us for a while...I cant imagine very many GMs want a short, older PF who doesnt rebound, play defense, or pass the ball and is locked into a long term deal(well, besides PDA that is).
I'd rather we dont trade JT. He would be an excellent 3rd big (as opposed to a rather mediocre starter). He is one of our few valuable pieces though...Despite what some posters on here think. Just the kind of big playoff teams would love to add to their bench. JT being with us post deadline is probably 50/50. I can see him getting traded either as a throw in on a larger deal or in some kind of role player swap.
Given PDA's (admittedly short) track record, we're bound to do SOMETHING.
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If the Kings are indeed looking to trade for Jack, then its possible that there's another deal in the works to trade IT. Or, they might look at Jack as insurance against losing IT in free agency, if it comes to that. I look at Jack as a 6th man off the bench type player, the exact same way I look at IT. Highly possible the Kings also look at him that way. Despite Jack not having the same type of year this year, that he had with the Warriors last season, he's still shooting the ball better than Thornton, and at least he can play the point. He's had several seasons where he's averaged 5 or 6 assists a game. He's also the same height as Thornton, so he could fill in at the SG position as well, and he's a better defender than either IT or Thornton. Of course that's not saying much.
I like this. Terry (even though his stats are down this year) is an ageless wonder. I had been watching him pretty much his entire career and he's always been VERY consistent. Brooklyn isn't using him as much as they should, but he can easily put up 13ppg with us without breaking a sweat, even if he's 37-38 years old. He's the type of player that can play to 40-42 easy.
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