Alright, we got the 8th pick, options...
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KingMilz
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Kantar sucks and has literally zero defence. The Jazz were like 2-30 with him as a starter, no thanks I will pass on that. Carl Landry at his limited size is a better defender and score's as well/better and won't command the type of money the overrated Kantar will.Do you really value Kanter that much?
Umm.. You might want to rethink what Brick was saying (and my response)
Vlade4GM
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Vonleh if we're talking the no.8 pick (of those options, but he may not be there.) I kind of think we should trade down (perhaps with Chicago or Phoenix,) and try to nab Kyle Anderson and say someone like Clint Capella, or some big who can either board and swat, or stretch the offense (someone like Adrien Payne.)
I have never seen ahy of the draft prospects play or on videos, so my information comes from the many mock drafts and their revisions plus reading comments and assessments on here. With my readings up to June 1 I'm impressed with the many decent choices the FO has. Gordon, Ennius, Randle, Vonleh, Harris, Tyler, McDermott, Smart, and a few others have been our pick according to one or another. This leads me to believe the FO will have a decent choice depending on what their plans are. Encouraging.
Go to draftexpress and you can see a video breakdown on all these guys. Very detailed. Strengths and weaknesses. When watching a guy make sure you watch the weaknesses part as well. Aloof these guys look great in the highlight part of the video.
randymoss1881
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Pretty good video and some evidence to point towards Gordon being able to play some SF. At least in those highlights, Gordon looked to be forcing Parker into a bunch of tough shots. Parker got the best of him at times, but so will every good offensive player. Parker will grade out as one of the better offensive SF's immediately when he steps on the floor.
The biggest deterent in my eyes as far as Gordon being able to develop as a SF is his shot. I don't have many worries about his ability to defend the position.
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KingMilz
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Why would the Jazz give up on the only decent big man they have? They already got Burkes @SG who atm is better than Ben (I will take Ben over him long term).
Derrick Favors is a insane trade for us awful for Utah.
upinsmoke
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Okay how and why.
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KingMilz
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We get a massive athletic defensive body/offensive rebounder next to Cousins who's potential is still huge, he's shown improvement in his jumper and he's got more of a passive quiet type personality which again fits in next to Cousins. Favors can and will be a game changer at the defensive end. The chances imo of Smart/Gordon/whoever is 8th pick being more of a game changer than Favors is slim.
The Jazz need to keep Favors and unload Kantar.
Nikolizzle
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I'd love Favors next to Cousins, though.
If (And I know it's only a pipe dream) we could offer up some kind of package to get Favors and Pick 5 from Utah, and draft Smart at 5, that would be incredible.
Big Cuz 15
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we'd have to have some serious blackmail material to make that happen
Bricklayer
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heh, ya, we'd be damn lucky to pry Favors loose by himself, let alone get them to casually throw in #5 as well.
gunks
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As long as you're dreaming we might as well make Landry the centerpiece of the package.
Nikolizzle
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Sure, why not. Landry, Thompson and Outlaw for the #5 and Favors? hahaha!As long as you're dreaming we might as well make Landry the centerpiece of the package.
The more I think about it though, Utah might be open to trading down from the #5. I'm sure we could give them #8 and something to make it enticing, and make sure we get Smart.
Folsomkingsfan
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If we trade down I really like adreian Payne. At 23 he probably won't improve his game much, but he is a great rebounder and can stretch the floor with his shooting. His post game needs work but he's really physical and has a ton of athleticism. I really think he'd do we'll next to cousins.
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KingMilz
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Hopefully the Kings can have a Port Adelaide like turnaround as well, where the team goes all out effort for 4 quarters with endless hustle and bustle.
Port were in the exact situation the Kings are in now a couple seasons back where they managed to hold onto a couple of there gun players like Boak while others like Westoff finally reached there potential and began to dominate.It all came from a no nonsense coach and basically if you were not fit and able to run (defend) the whole game you would not get a game at all.
LPKingsFan
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The Favors+5 deal is lunacy but I think you're on to something about Utah and possibly trading down. It seems like any of the PFs in the 5-8 range (Randle, Vonleh, Gordon) could fit there, in different ways. Meanwhile, I'd love the chance to assure the Kings get a guy like Smart at 5.
But the question is--what value could the Kings add to #8 to move up? Sad to say, there aren't many assets available short of McLemore, who I don't think would be worth trading to move up three spots. The Jazz have plenty of cap room as it is, and no bad contracts to dump. Maybe Pete could work his magic to acquire a late 1st somehow, that he could turn around and package with #8 to move up. But I'm not seeing anything realistic.
Hallama
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Port Adelaide? Aussie rules?
I lived in Adelaide for 6 months and went to one of the games, but I think it was the other team. Loved it, and enjoyed watching all the games.
Albatros
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Smart is going back to Orlando for a second workout according to him, so he's obviously drawing interest as high as 4.
ShastaKingsFan
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Definitely a shot blocking threat as well
Dime Dropper
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Payne is neither a rebounder nor a shot-blocker, which is a big red flag given his size, length and athelticism. How folsomkingsfan came to the conclusion that he's a "great rebounder" is confusing. He's also 23, so he's not going to get a whole lot better. He's really not a good fit next to Cuz.
Orlando supposedly wanted Smart last year. Drafting Oladipo leaves them with a hole at PG and it's possible they prefer Smart to Exum. That means there might be an opportunity for someone to try and trade up into Utah's #5 spot and nab Exum. Or maybe for someone to trade up into Orlando's spot even (though not for us -- Smart isn't going to last until #8). I don't see Utah giving up on Favors in any scenario unless it's trading up into the top 3.
Agent23
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I want Marcus Smart in purple and black so bad. We'll get a second chance at having a freak at PG. As much as I love Reke the difference betwen him and Smart is heart. Reke had every physical gift imaginable but he wasn't fiery enough. Marcus Smart is a pitbull who won't back down from the Russell Westbrooks of the world.
Dime Dropper
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Smart and Tyreke aren't nearly as similar as people think. There are a couple of similarities but not many.
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