Tropical Island Movie Draft Thread - ROUND 20 FINISHED!!!

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It is -- I think possibly the second best ever really after Batman Begins, and if I had time for reenforcement of the super hero genre (which I don't actually particualy care for) that would have been my second pick.

But its not for the fights. Its because that movie was one of the best explorations of what it really means to be a hero yet attempted in that genre, and the last third of it was nearly perfect in its resolution.
 
It is -- I think possibly the second best ever really after Batman Begins, and if I had time for reenforcement of the super hero genre (which I don't actually particualy care for) that would have been my second pick.

But its not for the fights. Its because that movie was one of the best explorations of what it really means to be a hero yet attempted in that genre, and the last third of it was nearly perfect in its resolution.

This brings up a decent question. With The Dark Knight being heralded by pretty much every critic to have seen it yet as the "best superhero movie ever," I wonder if our draft will still be going when it is released and available to draft. And better yet, who will be up to take it?

Or maybe it actually sucks, who knows?
 
Spider-man 2 (2004)

the two minor problems i had with this movie were:

1) where the hell does that elevated train go?!?!
2) the solution at the end was to dunk the ball in water? what?

and also, the future goblin (forgot the actor's name) was a pretty terrible actor.

but other than those minor points, really solid movie.
 
Ok this one of my movies when i was a child.


Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins 1987

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After seeing one of my other childhood movies go. I had to move this up in my list. I love this movie. This movie is pure fun.
 
I have a pair of classics I hope to take before getting to the "personal guilty pleasures" portion of my draft.

But considering Jimmy Stewart's biggest fan (tradepeja) is picking twice before me, I'd say of the two this one had the lesser chance of snaking back my way.

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Mr. Smith Goes To Washington - 1939

The "other" Capra-Stewart pairing could be summed up as Rocky Balboa on Capitol Hill.

You really identify with Stewart's Jefferson Smith as the naive, ultra-patriotic Boy Scout leader-turned-appointed junior Senator is wisked off to D.C. -- where the machine politics, underhanded deals and systematic corruption quickly challenge his ideals and image of America.

But instead of becoming jaded, Smith takes a stand, and lives up to his motto that "the lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for."

Also includes silent movie star Jean Arthur as the smart, sarcastic and cynical Clarissa Saunders and Casablanca's Claude Rains brilliantly playing Sen. Joe Paine.

I run through the whole spectrum of emotions when I watch this movie, right up to Smith's finally words:

"You all think I'm licked. Well I'm not licked. And I'm going to stay right here and fight for this lost cause even if this room gets filled with lies like these, and the Taylors and all their armies come marching into this place; somebody will listen to me." (collapses)
 
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Escape From Alcatraz (1979)

There is just something inherently entertaining about prison escape/caper films, and this was a really good one. And it really happened too -- its based (closely) on a real escape just before Alcatraz was shut down. With Shawshank off the board early, and Ocean's 11 soon after, I was hoping this would slip under the radar until I finally got around to it. Not as stylish as those films, but very solid and full fo detail and puts you right in the shoes of the inmates as they put their plan together piece by piece over many months while trying to escape detection.
 
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Well, I guess I can bolster my superhero movie quotient with:

Spider-man 2 (2004)

I think we've all been beating around this one for a while, and I really like the Doc Oc fights, so I'm gonna take it and not look back. Personally, I think it is one of the best superhero movies ever made.

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Spider man 2 is the one... nice selection... one of the great superhero films of all time... excellent... Dr. Octopus is so perfect.
 
Okeee...I believe it's my turn and oh, I dunno, I feel alla sudden the need to protect some of my James Stewart stash, not sure what brought that on tho...;) This was the movie I bypassed to take Caine and Sands...lest I go double barrel Hitchcock....

Rope (1948)

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Rope was another good one from the tier of Hitchcock films that people have arguments about whether or not they are as good as the more notable films are. I say poppy(hitch)roster! This movie was disturbing, it had interesting dialogue, it had a brazen murder, it had Farley Granger melting down, it had interesting filmmaking...it had James Stewart. Love this film.
 
You know what? That maybe COULD have been a good movie...if they had just ended it when they should have. Sink to the bottom of the lake, fade out...voila! But no, it comes from the bloated Spielberg era, and he just had to throw on 30 minutes of tacked on stuff. Just boo. Good enough concept, but amazingly the problem was it could have used a more disciplined director.

nah, that movie was already too long even at that point. I laughed out loud, and so loud that the entire theatre turned around (and my date hid low in her seat and hit me with her purse) when "10,000 years later..." flashed onto the screen.

It was the best part of the movie.

Although I think the movie did several (even many) little things right, overall it was a bloated problem.. and the very definition of the pratfall that occurs when a director becomes "too big to be edited"... who is gonna tell mr Lucas or mr spielberg to ax a scene here or there, or clean up this or that... apparently nobody.
 
nah, that movie was already too long even at that point. I laughed out loud, and so loud that the entire theatre turned around (and my date hid low in her seat and hit me with her purse) when "10,000 years later..." flashed onto the screen.

That's how loud I sighed at the same moment.

There may have even been a "you've got to be ****ing kidding me" uttered, as well.
 
Brick's Rambo pick moved this movie up a tick or two on my list. I am a believer in the fads you know.

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300 - 2007

The best experience I've had going to a movie theatre. Bar none. I went to see this with a half dozen of my good friends on opening night at midnight. The seats were packed. What we all witnessed were some of the most intense action scenes brought to life in some of the most stylistic ways ever put to film. I remember being completely dumbfounded watching Leonidas tear Persian after Persian to shreds in the middle of a massive battle in one of the now-famous action scenes. Sure, the story is about 10% truth, 90% fiction, but it didn't matter at the time and it doesn't matter now.

Nothing is going to match watching that movie in the theatre with those people with everyone's gasps and the moments of silence and pure awe. Even still, I have to have this, even if I will have to watch it alone on an island on a much smaller screen.

I remember, after we all walked out of the theatre stunned, one of my friends talking to his girlfriend on the phone. She had asked how the movie was, he replied, "Its like what every man sees right before he closes his eyes to sleep every night." He couldn't be more right. To us, it was action in its purest form.

The bad? This movie spawned many one liners that are borderline cheesy in the movie, and definitely cheesy when said by any non Spartan (so, anyone). However, there were a few historically accurate (as in someone actually said them) quotes featured in this movie. I knew what they were going in, so it was especially fun hearing them. The best of which is when the Persian emmissary tells a Spartan warrior that the Persian army is so vast that their "arrows will blot out the Sun." To which the Spartan replies, as is historically confirmed, "Then we will fight in the shade."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae
 
300 is kinda like Sin City to me in the aspect that I liked the movie for the visual style, etc., but didn't really think the movie *itself* was all that great.

Now, part of that was probably due to the fact that I saw it on an IMAX screen and was down in the bottom corner of the theater, and the view sucked with my neck craned sideways. :rolleyes:

I did pick it up cheap on DVD to see again on occasion, and you are right, some of the action scenes are well done.
 
Brick's Rambo pick moved this movie up a tick or two on my list. I am a believer in the fads you know.

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300 - 2007

The best experience I've had going to a movie theatre. Bar none. I went to see this with a half dozen of my good friends on opening night at midnight. The seats were packed. What we all witnessed were some of the most intense action scenes brought to life in some of the most stylistic ways ever put to film. I remember being completely dumbfounded watching Leonidas tear Persian after Persian to shreds in the middle of a massive battle in one of the now-famous action scenes. Sure, the story is about 10% truth, 90% fiction, but it didn't matter at the time and it doesn't matter now.

Nothing is going to match watching that movie in the theatre with those people with everyone's gasps and the moments of silence and pure awe. Even still, I have to have this, even if I will have to watch it alone on an island on a much smaller screen.

I remember, after we all walked out of the theatre stunned, one of my friends talking to his girlfriend on the phone. She had asked how the movie was, he replied, "Its like what every man sees right before he closes his eyes to sleep every night." He couldn't be more right. To us, it was action in its purest form.

The bad? This movie spawned many one liners that are borderline cheesy in the movie, and definitely cheesy when said by any non Spartan (so, anyone). However, there were a few historically accurate (as in someone actually said them) quotes featured in this movie. I knew what they were going in, so it was especially fun hearing them. The best of which is when the Persian emmissary tells a Spartan warrior that the Persian army is so vast that their "arrows will blot out the Sun." To which the Spartan replies, as is historically confirmed, "Then we will fight in the shade."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae


Oh egads. Finally saw that just last week.

It was awful. :p

Sorry, glad I inspired the pick and all, but could not make it through to the end of all the flexing and history butchering.
 
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Now, part of that was probably due to the fact that I saw it on an IMAX screen and was down in the bottom corner of the theater, and the view sucked with my neck craned sideways. :rolleyes:
But every seat in the IMAX theater is supposed to be equally awesome. ha

I liked Sin City a whole lot more than 300, but I thought both were style over substance.
 
Oh egads. Finally saw that just last week.

It was awful. :p

Sorry, glad I inspired the pick and all, but could not make it through to the end of all the flexing and history butchering.

It is a love it or hate it movie. And you didn't really inspire the pick, I had it all along, just moved it up a bit.

I do tend to be annoyed by people that didn't like this movie based on its historical inaccuracies. If you came to see a word by word retelling of the history of the Battle of Thermopylae, then you are the one with the misstep, not the movie.

For that matter, creating an accurate movie about that battle would be practically impossible as so much has been changed throughout time. Hell, 300 could be spot on for all we really know (cyclops and giant elephants and all).
 
I liked Sin City a whole lot more than 300, but I thought both were style over substance.

Sin City and 300 (and Kill Bill, and... a whole bunch of others that I shouldn't list with the draft still active) represent cases in which I, personally, think that "style over substance" is a bit of an oversimplification.

Clearly this is based on my own interpretation of the term, but I always associate that phrase with projects that are... I don't know, less ambitious, perhaps? Or, maybe more accurately, films that have misguided ambition. Pearl Harbor, for example (and, if anyone was going to pick this one, I'm sorry for MANY reasons), is a film in which you can tell they were going for substance where there was none -- that picture thought it was genuinely touching/genuinely well written/genuinely engaging, but all anyone remembers is the CGI bomb tracking shot -- Michael Bay is simply incapable of delivering any more than that.

With both Sin City and 300, however, the style is the substance. Style was THE goal in both cases -- let's make a comic book movie that looks like a moving comic book. That's the mission statement. Period. In general, I'm perfectly okay with that principle as long as the style really delivers all that is promised.
 
Who would have thought in 1987 that this film would produce 2 future Governors?

Predator (1987)


Now this is scifi that I can get with. Give me a freaky looking alien that comes to OUR planet to hunt. An alien with some crazy sophisticated weoponry who can ALMOST take out an entire US special forces unit, until he meets his match with one Arnold Schwarzenegger. Just some down right kick A$$ action and a character (the predator) that has survived until the present as evidenced in the AVP spinoffs. Immensely popular and frankly, I am surprised to be able to pick it this late in the draft.
 
With both Sin City and 300, however, the style is the substance.
I understand that, which is why I can say that (at least in the case of the former) it was complete style over substance about a movie I really enjoyed. I spent 3 years in visual effects, I'm practically all about style over substance!
 
Who would have thought in 1987 that this film would produce 2 future Governors?

Scary huh? :p

Always liked that movie. Did not love it the way some did. Not as good as either of the frist two Alien/Alines, although better than all that followed obviously. Certainly considered the AvP stuff pure childishness. But the first movie was cool, and so critically focused on the unique characters of the squad -- so often character gets lost in those things, and that is the whole movie.
 
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Scary huh? :p

Always liked that movie. Did not love it the way some did. Not as good as either of the frist two Alien/Alines, although better than all that followed obviously. Certainly considered the AvP stuff pure childishness. But the first movie was cool, and so critically focused on the unique characters of the squad -- so often character gets lost in those things, and that is the whole movie.

I've never even watched the AvP movies probably because Predator 2 left such a bad taste in my mouth. Agreed about the unique characters of the squad, its what makes it a so so action movie into a good one.
 
time for the cream of the double O crop.

goldeneye - 1995
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i didn't really watch the earlier bonds, but from what i have seen, i think brosnan made a better bond than dalton or connery. the pithy innuendoes from the older bonds were also cheesier than in this flick (though this one was still cheesy at points), but the action and acting made up for it. plus, two double O's duking it out!

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GoldenEye (1995) is the seventeenth spy film of the British James Bond series directed by Martin Campbell and the first to star Pierce Brosnan as the fictional MI6 agent James Bond. Unlike previous Bond films, it is unrelated to the works of novelist Ian Fleming,[1] although the name "GoldenEye" was taken from his estate in Jamaica. The story was conceived and written by Michael France, with later collaboration by other writers. In the film, Bond fights to prevent an arms syndicate from using the GoldenEye satellite weapon against London in order to cause a global financial meltdown.
GoldenEye was released in 1995 after legal disputes forced a six-year hiatus in the series, during which Timothy Dalton resigned from the role of James Bond and was replaced by Pierce Brosnan. M was also recast with actress Judi Dench, becoming the first female to portray the character. GoldenEye was the first Bond film made after the downfall of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War, which provided a background for the plot.
The film was praised by most critics and performed well at the box office, considerably better than Dalton's films, without taking inflation into account.[2] Some critics viewed the film as a modernisation of the series, and felt Brosnan was a definite improvement over his predecessor.[3][4][5] It also received two BAFTA nominations – "Best Achievement in Special Effects" and "Best Sound".[6]
 
connery was SUCH a cheesy bond.

out of all of them, i actually thing daniel craig is the best. casino royale sort of sucked, but he made a GREAT bond.

uh oh, i have a man crush... :p
 
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