Trade Scenario: Omri for Darren Collison

Just some blogger trying to SELL high his rookie(Collison) and buy low our rookie(Casspi).

Yah, when it's all said and done I still think Holiday, and Westbrook will be better PGs than Collison. But I do think Collison will have a good career, he has proven in Paul's absence that he can play PG..

The problem I have with Collison right now is that he's trying to take over, and do everything Paul is doing. It's fine and dandy, but he's only doing the scoring part like Paul can do, and leaving some of the teammates out in the cold. His assist numbers are there but it's not telling the entire story.. But damn good for a rookie filling in. I think he can and will get better.
 
I would like to have Collison around, but I don't know if I'd want to do that at the expense of Omri. Right now our future at the SF is up in the air enough that I would rather see how it plays out than ship one of the candidates out early. Especially as there's no indication as of yet that we plan to move Tyreke off of the PG slot, so Collison would be relegated to a backup role.

Maybe if we land a Cousins/Favors-type guy in the draft, we could ship off Thompson/Hawes for Collison, which would free up some minutes at the post, then play ~10 minutes a game with a Collison/Evans backcourt (giving Collison all the backup minutes at the PG). Could be interesting. I was high on Collison in college, and now that he's doing it at the NBA level, he'll be a tough piece to pry away. Chris Paul is the only reason he'd even be available.

Do you really see Tyreke and Collison in the same backcourt? I just don't see it. The easiest argument against that combo is no longer is there a Tyreke matchup problem for the other team. Just give me Turner in the draft...
 
I read up until whoever wrote that said Evans played better OFF THE BALL..

Bullcrap.. The guy obviously does not know Evans game.. In college he was notorious for NEEDING the ball to be effective (not to mention this year with the Kings).. They did the standard PG/SG thing at Memphis for the first few games and how well did that work out? It didn't start to get good until we had Evans controlling the ball with a great two man game with Anderson. We need another ball handler in the back court, but I don't think a prototypical PG would make the team any better. It would be nice to have a couple of combo guards where one is good with the ball (i.e. Evans) and one is good without the ball.. Who the guy we get who's good without the ball is yet to be determined. That's why I was for the whole "Bring Anderson in for a tryout" thing.. Because I know he's good without the ball. We already have one D-Leaguer from Memphis (Dorsey) so why not bring in Anderson for the heck of it maybe during the summer. It's win win because he wouldn't cost much, and we already know he can play D, pass, handle the ball, and play well with Evans. Would be a cost effective stopgap measure.

I'm with you, except I'm a little greedier. I think we need two combo guards both of whom are good with and without the ball. I'd like to see Evans and Turner as our backcourt (in my dreams). I may disagree a tad with you on Evans. He was better with the ball at Memphis no doubt. And he's better now with the ball as a King. But I've seen enough of him to believe that he's not congenitally bad without the ball. He does make plays without the ball. I've seen him "lock and load" on posts, and make cuts very effectively. It looks to me he has considerable potential to exploit in that area. Given who he currently plays with in the backcourt, he's not going to do a lot of that because he's so much better with the ball than anybody we have. But if he plays with somebody similar in the backcourt then I could see him diversifying his skills.
 
Do you really see Tyreke and Collison in the same backcourt? I just don't see it. The easiest argument against that combo is no longer is there a Tyreke matchup problem for the other team. Just give me Turner in the draft...

Well, technically Kobe/Wade/Roy don't present a "matchup problem" either but they seem to be effective. I think that the idea of the matchup problem might be a bit overrated.

I'm not saying move Tyreke to the 2 - I've always been a proponent of keeping him at the 1. But if we decide to do that, Collison seems to fit a reasonable mold for what we would want beside him.
 
Eh I'll pass on this trade, they already have a older more one dimensional version of Omri anyways we can keep ours:)

But like somebody posted earlier a Reke/Turner backcourt could be something real nice to watch in a couple years.

Also if we could get one of those backup PG's on the cheap, I'd sign up Stevie Blake in a heartbeat.
 
The maloofs aren't giving up their marketing gold mine.

At the Clippers game there were just as many Omri fans as Clippers fans. Lots of people in my neighborhood who don't even care about basketball love Omri. Omri will be a King for life, which lucky for us is a very good thing.
 
The Hornets would do this deal in a heartbeat, and then laugh about it.

Really? I wouldn't be so sure. They would be nuts to trade him right now in my opinion. I think they should keep him at least through next season to find out whether or not this is just a hot streak. If he isn't THIS good (probably isn't) then he is still a great backup PG to have.
 
Lets let him play the point for the rest of the year and see how he plays once the league adapts to him. Personally I haven't seen any of the games he's started, but I doubt their doubling him the same way they do Paul. Look at how the defenses have adjusted to Tyreke around the league. I was amazed last night when in one instance Tryeke drove into the middle and there were five Utah players around him. The entire Utah team collapsed on him. Of course he kicked the ball to Hawes for a basket.

My point is, I'm not going to make a trade for a player based purely on his play over a short period of time. Besides, I like Casspi more.:p
 
I read up until whoever wrote that said Evans played better OFF THE BALL..

Bullcrap.. The guy obviously does not know Evans game.. In college he was notorious for NEEDING the ball to be effective (not to mention this year with the Kings).. They did the standard PG/SG thing at Memphis for the first few games and how well did that work out? It didn't start to get good until we had Evans controlling the ball with a great two man game with Anderson. We need another ball handler in the back court, but I don't think a prototypical PG would make the team any better. It would be nice to have a couple of combo guards where one is good with the ball (i.e. Evans) and one is good without the ball.. Who the guy we get who's good without the ball is yet to be determined. That's why I was for the whole "Bring Anderson in for a tryout" thing.. Because I know he's good without the ball. We already have one D-Leaguer from Memphis (Dorsey) so why not bring in Anderson for the heck of it maybe during the summer. It's win win because he wouldn't cost much, and we already know he can play D, pass, handle the ball, and play well with Evans. Would be a cost effective stopgap measure.

I read last week a team picked anderson up already.
 
This is far from the first (and certainly won't be the last) trade proposal suggesting that the Kings put a "traditional" PG next to Tyreke and slide him over to the 2.

Why on earth would this team take the ball out of his hands and remove his size advantage against opposing PGs?

No, IMO the team doesn't need to be looking for a small, pass-first PG to run the team. What they need is a good sized SG with a defensive mindset and the ability to square up and hit outside shots as well as handle and pass the ball.

What this team needs is a new Doug Christie.
 
This is far from the first (and certainly won't be the last) trade proposal suggesting that the Kings put a "traditional" PG next to Tyreke and slide him over to the 2.

Why on earth would this team take the ball out of his hands and remove his size advantage against opposing PGs?

No, IMO the team doesn't need to be looking for a small, pass-first PG to run the team. What they need is a good sized SG with a defensive mindset and the ability to square up and hit outside shots as well as handle and pass the ball.

What this team needs is a new Doug Christie.

Where do you buy one of those? :)
 
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