Trade Brad Miller

[SacKings4Life21]

Artest should be our only untochable. And Sure i would love to get KG. I had a dream about him last night, playing in purple. It was the best dream ever. but i dont think he is going to leave mini. Mchale wants him to stay desperatly. But yes I would be so happy if we got him!

 

[beemerr23]

There's no way we're getting KG or Dirk, you can forget about that. If you trade Bibby, I can guaruntee you won't get a 20+ point, 5+ assists, clutch in crunch time point guard in return.

 

[Troy]

Kings fans, want a big guy that can shoot the long ball and rebound and bash like the best of them and be cheap around $3M, and plays good at Arco. I know you guys aren't going to like this, but his name is Robert Horry.

Why not bring him into the fold and stop him from hurting us??? I know he is 36, but he looks like he's still can play some more years. I think he would be a good punch off the bench like he is in SA and the Brad Miller big trade would be a lot easier to swallow. Just a thought, I know we love him so much and maybe we could cheer for him, although he did break our hearts when he was with the Lakers and looks to do it again this year with the Spurs. He sure can shoot for a big guy and bash inside if needed.

 

[Troy]

There's no way we're getting KG or Dirk, you can forget about that. If you trade Bibby, I can guaruntee you won't get a 20+ point, 5+ assists, clutch in crunch time point guard in return.

I know, Bibby sucks on defense, but this guy is awesome. I really hope him and Brad step up the plate now that we need them more then ever against the Spurs. That's why I think he, Ron, and Bonzi, and SAR are the untouchables, Brad as well unless we can get Camby or Chandler for him. You don't throw a guy like Brad away, unless you can upgrade. Before shipping him off, I'd like to see a guy like Prizbilla or another guy at Center next to Brad or at least a PF that plays very big. Either way we need a big guy next to Brad that covers for Brad's bad D and rebounding/shot blocking, call him a PF or C, I don't care we just need that guy and bad.

 

[Kings113]

No on Horry, and he's in it with teams very likely to win a championship.

 

[yanon]

Actually trading Brad for a top 3 pick wouldn't be bad because there are two very good PF/C players in this year's draft.

Those two have allstar potentials and very good size.

 

[Larry89]

Kings fans, want a big guy that can shoot the long ball and rebound and bash like the best of them and be cheap around $3M, and plays good at Arco. I know you guys aren't going to like this, but his name is Robert Horry.

Why not bring him into the fold and stop him from hurting us??? I know he is 36, but he looks like he's still can play some more years. I think he would be a good punch off the bench like he is in SA and the Brad Miller big trade would be a lot easier to swallow. Just a thought, I know we love him so much and maybe we could cheer for him, although he did break our hearts when he was with the Lakers and looks to do it again this year with the Spurs. He sure can shoot for a big guy and bash inside if needed.

NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr

 

[SacKings4Life21]

You know... I dont liek to get involed in the girlish "ohh i hate him becase he made that basket, or oooo i love him becase he is so cute and been on our team for so long! yay!" Im not like that usually... but with Horry... i am. I respect his game, but could never stand him in a kings uniform... others say the same about Shaq, and Kobe... im not that guy... If the DADDY wanted to come here, i would be super happy.. same with Kobe... but not horry

 

[Troy]

You know... I dont liek to get involed in the girlish "ohh i hate him becase he made that basket, or oooo i love him becase he is so cute and been on our team for so long! yay!" Im not like that usually... but with Horry... i am. I respect his game, but could never stand him in a kings uniform... others say the same about Shaq, and Kobe... im not that guy... If the DADDY wanted to come here, i would be super happy.. same with Kobe... but not horry

You rather Kobe the rapest comes here than Horry? I know Horry raped the Kings and broke our hearts, but the guy is good. I'm not a Horry bandwagon kind of guy, but I think the guy has some shooting skills for being his size and we could probably get him for cheap, that is if decides to come here and the Spurs let him go. He said he loves playing at Arco. Let's turn those boos to cheers

 

[Bricklayer]

You rather Kobe the rapest comes here than Horry? I know Horry raped the Kings and broke our hearts, but the guy is good. I'm not a Horry bandwagon kind of guy, but I think the guy has some shooting skills for being his size and we could probably get him for cheap, that is if decides to come here and the Spurs let him go. He said he loves playing at Arco. Let's turn those boos to cheers

let's not bring the Kobe off court stuff into this ok?

He was acquitted (or rather the case was dropped). There is an ugly dark cloud hanging there, but no way to prove anything either way, so all that does is introduce an ugly debate for no reason.

 

[BMiller52]

SAY NO TO HORRY!


Dude wouldn't even help us that much. The kings need a shotblocker/post defender with athleticism not a guy who rides the coattails of kobe+shaq/duncan etc. I mean he's clutch, but he's not what the kings need.

 

[West_Gunslinger16]

Chandler? Is that possible? I traded Brad and Potapenko in Live 06 and Chicago said YES!

 

[beemerr23]

Chandler? Is that possible? I traded Brad and Potapenko in Live 06 and Chicago said YES!

haha! well, game simulations are normally right, hopefully the same applies for trades!!!

 

[Troy]

Why cannot Brad Miller be more like Pau Gasol???

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/pau_gasol/index.html

Pau is a 20/10 guy for Memphis, I know you cannot compare a person of the same weight and height because a lot of times it's comparing apples to oranges, but why cannot he be that guy a little? I know Brad has played good for us, not in this critical playoff series, but he has been 1 of our main guys....I just wonder if he has a 20/10 potential in him, I think the point thing, but not the rebounding part.

I know his athletism sucks and I had to keep going back and seeing his trot to the hoop last night. He looks kind of like a horse with his trot the the hoop, doesn't look very natural, but it works and he hits his shots from the free throw line. If anything, Brad is a good shooter, although this entire Spurs series his trademark 18 footer is not falling.

 

[VF21]

Why can't Brad Miller be more like Pau Gasol?

Gee, why can't a rutabaga be more like a boomerang...

Brad Miller is Brad Miller. Players have strengths and weaknesses, warts and wrinkles. The idea in real life isn't to try and assemble a team of perfect players. It's to assemble a group of players whose strengths and weaknesses offset and complement each other's to form the BEST possible team.

Chandler? Is that possible? I traded Brad and Potapenko in Live 06 and Chicago said YES!

The idea that Chicago would trade Chandler for Miller and Vitaly might work on Live06, but there's a problem with that. IT'S A ViDEO GAME!!

 

[nbrans]

If the Kings were to trade Brad to Chicago I'd want more than just Chandler. Brad is a top 5 center, however poorly he's been playing. Chandler is good, but he's not there yet.

 

[Kings113]

Chandler and Duhon or maybe Gordon then. Since I doubt they'd give up Hinrich/likely BG, and Duhon is a good young PG.

 

[Troy]

Why can't Brad Miller be more like Pau Gasol?

Gee, why can't a rutabaga be more like a boomerang...

Brad Miller is Brad Miller. Players have strengths and weaknesses, warts and wrinkles. The idea in real life isn't to try and assemble a team of perfect players. It's to assemble a group of players whose strengths and weaknesses offset and complement each other's to form the BEST possible team.



The idea that Chicago would trade Chandler for Miller and Vitaly might work on Live06, but there's a problem with that. IT'S A ViDEO GAME!!

You're right VF, I always hated that "Why cannot you be more like so and so???"
I'm just saying that Brad does have the shooting ability but we need the rebounding and since he plays away from the basket we need to rely on our PG (Power Guard as in Bonzi, not Point Guard as in Bibby) and 6' 7" PF (K9) to get our rebounds which is seriously flawed. If Brad was a PF, then that might be o.k., but because he is our Center we should be getting more rebounding and shot blocking out of him.

Chandler and Duhon or maybe Gordon then. Since I doubt they'd give up Hinrich/likely BG, and Duhon is a good young PG.

Now your talking. Chandler and Duhon for Brad would be awesome, let's do it!!! We could add Vitaly or Hart or someone else other than Bonzi, Bibby, Artest, KMart, Cisco, SAR etc. if needed. I like Nocioni as well on the Bulls, is he even remotely available? Duon is a very good athletic guy that would help us and him and Chandler for Brad is more than fair. Ben Gordon would be so awesome off the bench for us, let's keep the possibilities coming. With losing Chandler, the Bulls will want some big guy(s) so how about Brad, Vitaly, and Sampson for Chandler, Duon, and Gordon? I really doubt they'd go for that, but we have other pieces like Corliss, and KT that we could use if needed.

 

[VF21]

And why would Chicago do it? If Chandler is that good, why would they want to get rid of him? And if he's not, why would we get rid of Brad for him?

Is Brad that good? If yes, we don't want to trade down. If no, they don't want to inherit his contact.

 

[Kings113]

Bulls wanted to get Hart last summer, but we swooped in and got him. Also, Bulls papers and announcers talked about a few times wishing to get Brad back. So, could work.

 

[Troy]

And why would Chicago do it? If Chandler is that good, why would they want to get rid of him? And if he's not, why would we get rid of Brad for him?

Is Brad that good? If yes, we don't want to trade down. If no, they don't want to inherit his contact.

The Bulls probably also have a lot of pride in Chandler considering they gave up Elton Brand for him so they might be sticking with him good or bad to justify it and hope he becomes the player they thought he was prior to the trade. I like Chandler, but there are so many other players on the bench on other teams that could help us out a lot like Francisco Elson on Denver or Anderson Vajero on Cleveland, plus lots of other guys. The Kings are such a small team compared to other teams that have 4-5 7 footers or near 7 footers. We have Vitaly and Jamal that are rotting away.

Bulls wanted to get Hart last summer, but we swooped in and got him. Also, Bulls papers and announcers talked about a few times wishing to get Brad back. So, could work.

Brad, Corliss, and Hart for Chandler, Duon, and Gordon

 

[BMiller52]

Brad, Corliss, and Hart for Chandler, Duon, and Gordon

Chicago would hang up and laugh.

 

[Troy]

Chicago would hang up and laugh.

I know. We are getting close I think with the group we have and have done a heck of a lot for the limited rotation we use. Do you think a Brad, KT, Hart, and Corliss trio would yield us Chandler, Duon, and Gordon???

Also in all this talk of untouchables, I don't see Sampson and Monia listed. I know they are both inactive on the roster and young and largely untested, but do you think they have futures on the Kings? I know it is too early to probably tell, I just hate how RA let Skinner sit on the bench when we really could have used him. The same is true for Corliss now, he does alot of the same thinks Bonzi does on offense with his bashing, but isn't the defender Bonzi is, but he sits and is a high priced cheeleader on the bench.

Why can't Brad Miller be more like Pau Gasol?

Gee, why can't a rutabaga be more like a boomerang...

Brad Miller is Brad Miller. Players have strengths and weaknesses, warts and wrinkles. The idea in real life isn't to try and assemble a team of perfect players. It's to assemble a group of players whose strengths and weaknesses offset and complement each other's to form the BEST possible team.



The idea that Chicago would trade Chandler for Miller and Vitaly might work on Live06, but there's a problem with that. IT'S A ViDEO GAME!!

I know Brad is Brad, but I know he has it in him, or did. A lot of the frustration with Brad these days, especially now in the playoffs is he is taking on the Pejaness of not showing up and almost deliberatly messing up. I don't know. He is not doing his career favors by doing this, but a lot of the frustration Kings fans have with Brad is his lack of effort, and it hurts because we know he is capable of a lot more. We pay his check and his is on our team and he will have to wait to get back to Indiana.

 

[Kings113]

I think it's too early on Sampson/Monia. I think they should be kept, they can help, but also are high possibilities to be used in trade(s).

 

[VF21]

I know. We are getting close I think with the group we have and have done a heck of a lot for the limited rotation we use. Do you think a Brad, KT, Hart, and Corliss trio would yield us Chandler, Duon, and Gordon???

Also in all this talk of untouchables, I don't see Sampson and Monia listed. I know they are both inactive on the roster and young and largely untested, but do you think they have futures on the Kings? I know it is too early to probably tell, I just hate how RA let Skinner sit on the bench when we really could have used him. The same is true for Corliss now, he does alot of the same thinks Bonzi does on offense with his bashing, but isn't the defender Bonzi is, but he sits and is a high priced cheeleader on the bench.



I know Brad is Brad, but I know he has it in him, or did. A lot of the frustration with Brad these days, especially now in the playoffs is he is taking on the Pejaness of not showing up and almost deliberatly messing up. I don't know. He is not doing his career favors by doing this, but a lot of the frustration Kings fans have with Brad is his lack of effort, and it hurts because we know he is capable of a lot more. We pay his check and his is on our team and he will have to wait to get back to Indiana.

This whole thing about Brad wanting to get back to Indiana has been blown up out of all proportion with reality. What Brad said was that if he had the opportunity he might like to end his career in Indiana. That's ALL he said.

I repeat - a true general manager builds a team with strengths and weaknesses. He balances their talent and stays within a monetary limit. He melds personalities and tries to find players who will fit the team he envisions.

Your comment about Brad "almost deliberately messing up" is totally uncalled for and UNREALISTIC.

 

[beemerr23]

If the Kings were to trade Brad to Chicago I'd want more than just Chandler. Brad is a top 5 center, however poorly he's been playing. Chandler is good, but he's not there yet.

Shaq, Yao, Okur, Ilglauskus, BWallace, Camby, Kaman, Stoudemire, Dalembert...

 

[Kings113]

Dalembert had an inconsistent year, but had a couple injuries, and probably pressure from that contract. I liked him a lot last season though.

Could put Magloire/Chandler in there too.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Dalembert? Okay, I could see a case for some of those guys, but at the point at which you're saying that Dalembert is a better center than Miller, you're just revealing your own blind hatred; Dalembert can do exactly one thing better than Miller, which is block shots, and that does not remotely make him a better center. Okur and Miller are essentially the same player. In fact, Miller is actually a better shooter than Okur. Ilgauskas is also remarkably similar to Miller, except that he blocks more shots. Kaman? One season of 12/9 ball suddenly makes him better than Miller? I'm not sold. I refuse to rate Stoudemire at center until he plays more than one season at center (one season at PF and one at C does not equate to C to me... especially not when Phoenix acquired Kurt Thomas to play center, so that Stoudemire and Marion could both go back to their natural positions).

Given that, I'd say that O'Neal, Yao, Wallace and Camby are closer to reality, in terms of centers that are better than Miller. The rest of those guys (Stoudemire gets a mulligan) fall into the "less than or equal to" category.

 

[SacTownKid]

And why would Chicago do it? If Chandler is that good, why would they want to get rid of him? And if he's not, why would we get rid of Brad for him?

Is Brad that good? If yes, we don't want to trade down. If no, they don't want to inherit his contact.

Simple, Chandler isn't that good. And they would probably, no, I would say, MOST LIKELY trade us Tyson for Brad.

 

[Kings113]

Chandler has been earning that contract from late January-present. Finally got over the health problems he had before that.

I'd trade Brad for him, yup.