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Tyreke Evans: 20.3 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 5.1 APG
Dwyane Wade: 14.7 PPG, 4.7 RPG, 4.1 APG
LeBron James: 16.8 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 6.1 APG
Kobe Bryant: 5.4 PPG, 1.4 RPG, 0.5 APG
Allen Iverson: 21.8 PPG, 5.3 RPG, 6.4 APG

This is a comparison of 5 players first NOVEMBER in the league. If Tyreke isn't blowing you away, you either have no pulse or you aren't much of a true basketball head. Players just don't come out of the gate the way Evans and Jennings have, unless they are TRULY special. And Evans is truly special.

So reserve your judgement, temper your enthusiasm. You are alone on that island, guy.
Good points. Hard to argue with numbers. Talking about expectations of a rookie is early IMO since so many rookies just don't pan out at all. I'm glad to start with that we drafted what appears to be a keeper, and possibly a special player to boot. To be fair though some of those numbers are slightly misleading since Kobe came in to the league very young and was considered to be a project with few minutes to start with, but really the rest were NBA-ready players put into situations to prove it.

Aries- I think I get what you're saying too in that you wanted the traditional clear-cut roles of basketball, with a proper PG in the PG position. Plenty of teams have done well with a point-forward style game though, and it allows for more height overall on the floor. Versatile as Tyreke is you're going to see him play a lot of 2 guard minutes too in what might be considered a more traditional lineup.
 
Ive seen it mentioned that Sergio's biggest weakness is his shooting, but I don't think that is really an accurate knock on him.
When we traded for him, I read that one of the main knocks on him was being TO prone. I haven't gone to check on his TO ratio at Portland and can't at the moment. Maybe I'll check later.
 
Just to make note, it is actually very easy to argue with numbers. They are end results of dynamic actions. Tallies and totals of what we deign worthy of recording, often because they are the easiest things to count.
 
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The only team in the last 2 decades to win a championship with a PURE pg is Boston. So I don't see why anyone would argue against having a superstar scoring guard that can pass the rock running the point in favor of us getting a good pg instead. Makes no sense.
 
One of the thing Sergio have to learn is to be a leader. He need everybody move around him, and when it doesn't happen instead of telling or signing everybody to move he is lost.
 
Against the Hornets, Sergio was pointing players to positions and getting the spacing set up. Opened the lane right up.
Well, from time to time is not enough. You saw what happened in this game in two minutes.
I just hope this game won't be a step back...

Anyway, I cannot watch it now. I had a like and after I made a pause (I wanted to enlarge the screen with D-Click but it is not Madia player) it doesn't work again.
If anybody have a link I would be very gratefull
 
I'm mad! Couldn't watch the game from the last minutes of the first half until a minute before the end. But I prefer Sergio playing well and me not be able to see it when Sergio not playing well...
 
So... That's it? Evans has played well, but he hasn't blown me away because he is doing what I expect him to do. He hasn't exceeded my expectations yet. When he does, you'll be the first to know. I will pm you before I even make the post. 16 games into his rookie season he is playing as well as I thought he would. I can't give credit to someone for simply doing their job.

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Ok what does a rookie that has played only 16 games have to do to exceed your expectations?
 
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Ok what does a rookie that has played only 16 games have to do to exceed your expectations?
20/5/5 for the season and 41 wins... to hell with john wall, im tired of hearing people say that it will take 2-3 years every time we get a new rookie... we have the players, lets hold them accountable. win some damn games...

i expect this team to win between 33-35 games and i expect evans to average 17-18 ppg... so it isnt asking too much and its completely obtainable.

dropping 50 on someone would be awesome too... i'll start the any questions thread the minute he hits 50. that could happen against the suns, they dont play defense.... and they are a good team, current skid aside... they are a legit playoff team.
 
20/5/5 for the season and 41 wins... .

Show me a rookie that has accomplished this feat. This is another real pathetic attemp to down play Evans. So in order to impress you Evans needs to do what no rookie has ever done. That is pathetic reasoning. BTW so you do not get offended I do not call you pathetic just the reasoning you displayed.
 
The Sergio Connection - Sergio Blog

El ambiente en el equipo es muy bueno. Somos gente joven y no hay demasiados egos. Con quien mejor me llevo es con Nocioni: en los viajes estamos juntos y siempre quedamos a comer o a cenar. Mi relacion con todos es fantástica, pero con él es con el que mejor me llevo.

The atmosphere in the team is good. We are young people and there are not too many egos. i get along the best with Nocioni: (on the road) we are together and we always have lunch or dinner. My relationship with everyone is fantastic, but with him is who I get along the best.

http://www.marca.com/blogs/sergio-rodriguez/2009/12/02/disfrutando-en-sacramento.html



The blog is longer and it is late at night, I'll finish translating tomorrow if you guys want.
 

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El ambiente en el equipo es muy bueno. Somos gente joven y no hay demasiados egos. Con quien mejor me llevo es con Nocioni: en los viajes estamos juntos y siempre quedamos a comer o a cenar. Mi relacion con todos es fantástica, pero con él es con el que mejor me llevo.

The atmosphere in the team is good. We are young people and there are not too many egos. i get along the best with Nocioni: (on the road) we are together and we always have lunch or dinner. My relationship with everyone is fantastic, but with him is who I get along the best.

http://www.marca.com/blogs/sergio-rodriguez/2009/12/02/disfrutando-en-sacramento.html



The blog is longer and it is late at night, I'll finish translating tomorrow if you guys want.
Hey, thanks! I know I'd be interested in reading the rest. Thanks, RKid...

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The Sergio Connection - Sergio Blog

El ambiente en el equipo es muy bueno. Somos gente joven y no hay demasiados egos. Con quien mejor me llevo es con Nocioni: en los viajes estamos juntos y siempre quedamos a comer o a cenar. Mi relacion con todos es fantástica, pero con él es con el que mejor me llevo.

The atmosphere in the team is good. We are young people and there are not too many egos. i get along the best with Nocioni: (on the road) we are together and we always have lunch or dinner. My relationship with everyone is fantastic, but with him is who I get along the best.

http://www.marca.com/blogs/sergio-rodriguez/2009/12/02/disfrutando-en-sacramento.html



The blog is longer and it is late at night, I'll finish translating tomorrow if you guys want.
I think this is one of the reasons to keep Noc. He is a huge authority for young European players, especially, for Latinos like Sergio.
 
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Enjoying Sacramento

Hola a todos. Estoy encantado de volver a estar otra vez en contacto con ustedes a través de este blog. Ya tenía ganas de contarles directamente mi vida en Sacramento.

Hi to all. I am enchanted to be in contact with you all through this blog. I wanted to tell you first hand about my life in Sacramento.

Antes que nada, un resumen de lo que fue mi verano. Tras descansar y disfrutar del mes de mayo, en junio ya empecé con lo serio. En Madrid, a las órdenes de Jota Cuspinera (ahora ayudante de Ettore Messina en el Real Madrid) estuve trabajando con otros jugadores de ACB y LEB, mientras que con los fisios Joaquin y Paco hacía el físico. Luego en julio y agosto estuve en Tenerife, trabajando la parte física con Fernando y jugando con amigos míos de allí que están a buen nivel en las LEB's.

Before all, let me give a recap of my summer. After resting and enjoying the month of May and June, I got down to business. In Madrid, at the instructions of Jota Cuspinera (now assistant of Ettore Messina at Real Madrid) I was working with other players from ACB and LEB, meanwhile I worked with Joaquin and Paco on (physical conditioning). Then in July and August I was in Tenerife, working on physical conditioning and playing with friends of mine who are in good form in the LEB's.

El uno de septiembre me vine para Sacramento. Había que buscar casa, conocer la ciudad, amoldarme... Y desde entonces todo ha ido de menos a más.

I came to Sacramento on the first of September. I needed to look for a home, get to know the city, get acostumed .... From then on everything has gone from less to more. (Gotten better)

La pretemporada fue rara, porque no jugué demasiado, pero el partido que pude jugar más, contra Oklahoma, lo hice bien. Todo fue más o menos así hasta esta ultima semana. He pasado días de estar decaído, pero ahora parece que todo funciona.

The preseason was strange, because I didnt play much, but the game that I played the most, against Oklahoma, I did it well. (I played well or I did things right) Everything went more or less the same until this past week. I have spent days were I have been down, but now it seems like everything works. (going well, working out)

Claro que me gustaría jugar más de lo que he jugado, pero ahora cuando salgo el entrenador me deja jugar y tengo la sensación de que si lo hago bien voy a seguir en la pista. Westphal me deja libertad y no estoy con miedo a fallar, que es la mejor manera de no fallar. Creo que es lo normal. Además, el equipo es nuevo y todos hemos tenido que adaptarnos.

Sure I would like to play more than what I am playing, but now when I go out the coach lets me play and I have the sensation that if I do things right I'll stay on the floor. Westphal gives me freedom and I am not afraid of missing/failing which is the best way of not failing/missing. The team is essentially new and everyone has had to adapt.

(In the above paragraph I took him to mean missing shots but after reading it carefully he might mean failing in general such as defensively and such. I rarely catch a Kings game so I would not know what he means.)

Cuando jugaba poco, el buen tiempo de Sacramento y los entrenamientos eran mi refugio. He entrenado muy bien y eso ha terminado sirviendo. Las tres temporadas en Portland me han hecho ver todo con otra perspectiva, aunque la situacion al principio fuera similar a la que tenia allí. Esta vez la adaptación a una nueva situacion me ha venido con mucha experiencia detras y hablando inglés mucho mejor.

When I played little, the good weather of Sacramento and the practices were my refuge. I've practiced very well and that has helped me. The three seasons in Portland have allowed me to see everything in another perspective, although the situation in the beginning was similar to what I had there. This time I have experience to adapting to a new place and my english is better.

(In the beginning of the paragraph he says el buen tiempo which either means "the good time of Sac" or "the good weather of sac". So he either he took solace in Sacramento's awesome weather or he was having a good time in Sac.)

El ambiente en el equipo es muy bueno. Somos gente joven y no hay demasiados egos. Con quien mejor me llevo es con Nocioni: en los viajes estamos juntos y siempre quedamos a comer o a cenar. Mi relacion con todos es fantástica, pero con él es con el que mejor me llevo.

The atmosphere in the team is very good. We are young guys and there are not to many egos. I get along with Nocioni the best; on the road we are alway together and we always make plans to have lunch or to have dinner. My relationship with everyone is fantastic, but with (Nocioni) is with who I get along with the best.


Como sabéis, esta semana ha cambiado todo para mí. He jugado y lo he hecho bien. En los últimos cuatro partidos promedio más de quince puntos y el último partido contra Nueva Orleans ha sido muy importante para mi carrera. Despues de un gran partido, en los minutos finales llevaba 22 puntos y mi récord en la NBA era de 23. Cuando Okafor me hizo falta no sabía que estábamos en bonus, pero cuando fui a la linea sabía que tenía la posibilidad del récord ahi. Aunque en los entrenos estoy tirando bien los tiros libres (lanzamos 50 al final de cada sesion y meto 46 o 48), en los partidos estoy por debajo de esos números. Así que me dije: como los falle, todavía me voy cabreado a casa. Pero entraron y acabe con 24.

Like you may know, this week has changed everything for me. I have played and I have done it well. In the last tfour games I average more than 15 points and the last game against New Orleans has been very important for my career. After a great game, in the final minutes I had 22 points and my career high in the NBA was of 23. When Okafor fouled me I didnt know we were in the bonus, but when I went to the line I knew I had a possibility of the record there. Although in practice I'm shooting FT's well (we shoot 50 ft's after practice and make 46 or 48) in games I'm below those numbers. So I told myself: if I miss them I'll still go home ok. But they went in and I ended with 24.


No fue el mejor partido de mi vida, pero sí que lo disfrute mucho. En aquel partido contra Denver en el que hice 23 puntos acabamos perdiendo y en este contra Nueva Orleans ganamos. Ahora tengo la sensación de estar ayudando mucho al equipo, y mientras ganemos todo ira bien para mi.

It wasnt the best game of my life, but I enjoyed it a lot. In that game against Denver were I scored 23 we wound up loosing, but this one against the Hornets we won. Now I have the sensation that I am helping the team a lot, and as long as we keep winning everything will go well for me.

Sacramento ganó la temporada pasada 17 partidos, y ahora vamos 8-8. El objetivo tiene que ser doblar las 17 victorias de la 08/09 y, quizá, llegar al 50% de triunfos. Es verdad que no hemos jugado contra Lakers, Cleveland o Boston, pero esa no es nuestra liga. En casa estamos muy fuertes y en esta liga, que está loca, quien sabe donde podemos llegar.

Sacramentowon 17 games last season and now we are 8-8. The objective has to be of doubling the 17 wins and perhaps reach 500. It is true that we have not playe the Lakers, CLeveland or Boston but that is not our league. At home we are strong and in this league, that is carzy, who knows where will get to.

Les seguiré contando mi vida aquí todas las semanas. Espero que me sigan tanto como yo leo sus comentarios.

I will keep telling you of my life here every week. I hope you follow me as much as I read all of your comments.

I tried to make a literall translation of what he said and somethings in Spanish dont translate well in english or dont make sense, therefore I added paranthesis with what he meant.
 
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****, I get asleep the last quarter and didn't see Sergio play....it's hard to see games at 4:00 am

Tyreke is a beast, but yesterday I really surprised with Thompson and Hawes...They seemed really good...

I think this is one of the reasons to keep Noc. He is a huge authority for young European players, especially, for Latinos like Sergio.
I don't know if it's because is a huge authority or if it's because them both speak the same language... I mean, Sergio beated Noc's Argentina by himself at the World Championship.
 
Thank you very much.

I used two different translators together to read Rudy's and Sergio's blog from the last year - google and bablefish... and google translator improved much from the last year in translating Spanish with basketball context!

(In the above paragraph I took him to mean missing shots but after reading it carefully he might mean failing in general such as defensively and such. I rarely catch a Kings game so I would not know what he means.)
I think he speaks here about the difference between the making the wrong things, and failing to do right things.
I think he mean that he don't afraid that if he do the right things it goes not well...
 
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Sure I would like to play more than what I am playing, but now when I go out the coach lets me play and I have the sensation that if I do things right I'll stay on the floor. Westphal gives me freedom and I am not afraid of missing/failing which is the best way of not failing/missing. The team is essentially new and everyone has had to adapt.

(In the above paragraph I took him to mean missing shots but after reading it carefully he might mean failing in general such as defensively and such. I rarely catch a Kings game so I would not know what he means.)
I think it has to see with McMillan's leash when he played in Portland...
 
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Show me a rookie that has accomplished this feat. This is another real pathetic attemp to down play Evans. So in order to impress you Evans needs to do what no rookie has ever done. That is pathetic reasoning. BTW so you do not get offended I do not call you pathetic just the reasoning you displayed.

im serious... im not down playing evans, the 41 wins is really just adding 6-8 more wins than i expected the team to win anyways... if a player cant add 8 more wins to the win column then why are you guys praising him. i expect him to average 17-18 points so and extra 2-3 isnt a stretch and he already is averaging 5 rebounds and 5 assists... all he has to do i maintain it. i dont see the big deal. it looks like i give this team way more credit than you guys do if you think that this is some impossible feat. i think its totally doable. i originally wouldve gone with 15/7 but then martin got hurt... i knew that he would be playing next to a pg so the scoring had to go up and his assists would go down.... so his current 18/5/5 doesnt impress me. keep in mind that my original beef with evans was his ability to play pg... with martin out he really isnt the pg so my expectations have changed it would be unfair for me to ask him to put up gaudy numbersas a rookie. 15/7 is pretty good hell, if he put up 15/5/7 for the season i would be just as pleased...

he is supposed to be this teams new leader... if you dont think he can do it then why are you hyping him up like he can?

carmelo anthony did it minus the assists at 21/6/3 and his team made the playoffs but he wasnt being labeled a pg so i dont count the assists... he is a sf who is a straight scorer...
 
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oh and lebron james at the age of 19 did it minus the wins... his team sucked though, there were a lot of good teams back in 2004, the kings being one of them.... it wasnt his time.
 
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im serious... im not down playing evans, the 41 wins is really just adding 6-8 more wins than i expected the team to win anyways... if a player cant add 8 more wins to the win column then why are you guys praising him. i expect him to average 17-18 points so and extra 2-3 isnt a stretch and he already is averaging 5 rebounds and 5 assists... all he has to do i maintain it. i dont see the big deal. it looks like i give this team way more credit than you guys do if you think that this is some impossible feat. i think its totally doable. i originally wouldve gone with 15/7 but then martin got hurt... i knew that he would be playing next to a pg so the scoring had to go up and his assists would go down.... so his current 18/5/5 doesnt impress me. keep in mind that my original beef with evans was his ability to play pg... with martin out he really isnt the pg so my expectations have changed it would be unfair for me to ask him to put up gaudy numbersas a rookie. 15/7 is pretty good hell, if he put up 15/5/7 for the season i would be just as pleased...

he is supposed to be this teams new leader... if you dont think he can do it then why are you hyping him up like he can?

carmelo anthony did it minus the assists at 21/6/3 and his team made the playoffs but he wasnt being labeled a pg so i dont count the assists... he is a sf who is a straight scorer...
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I think you're setting him up for failure with that thinking... Tyreke has been the biggest reason for the ressurectiong (along with other fine contributions from our young and veteran players). Yes, it is still sort of muddled whether he's a PG or a ball dominant SG, but to say that he has to take one of the worst teams, if not the worst (from last year's standpoint) to .500 is just absolutely insane... THis guy has impressed me. I thought he would struggle given that he has no jumpshot and never ran an offense as complex or as much before. I wanted Rubio bad, just like you. But I'm very happy with Tyreke. If he expands his offensive arsenal he will be dominant. You can plainly see that in his game. LBJ was a monster, you could see that in his first game, (Ironically vs us...) I really think you're doing a disservice to both LBJ and Tyreke by making that comparison.
 
im serious... im not down playing evans, the 41 wins is really just adding 6-8 more wins than i expected the team to win anyways... if a player cant add 8 more wins to the win column then why are you guys praising him.
So, you're the authority on how many games they are supposed to win without Evans? By your logic....couldn't I say:

I expected the team to win 20 games this year. So if they end up winning 41, he's adding 21 more wins.
 
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