OFFICIAL trade thread. Post trade proposals HERE! (merged)

[AriesMar27]

i know that this wont go over very well with most of you but here it goes.... outside of the og position i have a trade idea....

corliss to orlando for hedo and Mario Kasun
and
kenny and #23 pick to dallas(theres the part that you wont like) for dampier....

playing miller at the 4 and damp at the 5 would be nice mario is a 7 ft 12th man so we could trade ostertag for someones bargain bin swing man.... fred jones maybe.... or throwing tag at the clippers for jaric. how about skinner and tag for maggette.... because both jaric and simmons are free agents what are the chances of the clipper keeping both? though they should and they can afford it.... they probably wont...

 

[Greg Ostertag]

Orlando doesn't go for that deal. Hedo has played well (in spurts) for them. Don't think they'd prefer Corliss over Hedo when they have some unresolved SG issues.

 

[AriesMar27]

unresolved? jameer is their and francis shoots to damn much.... dribbles too much too, thats probably where mobley got it.... depending on who they draft, hedo might not be worth their time....

 

[Greg Ostertag]

Yes they do play Jameer and Stevie together, but other than that they really have no one, unless you count DeShawn. I think Hedo was pretty much their backup SG/SF and their 3rd top scorer. He really played well over there, don't think Corliss would be enough for him IMO

 

[AriesMar27]

yeah.. but it would be nice..... we could send skinner to orlando for hedo... they were originally interested in him before he ended up in philly.... i'd do it....

 

[Packt]

The thing with Jermaine O'neal is that he was on a very good Portland team contending for the title. They were the deepest team in the league and didn't have any playing time for a young player like O'Neal. Kwame on the other hand has been given every chance to suceed in Washington. Washington has been a pretty bad team the past few years, and although Kwame has shown glimpses of what he could be, he still has fallen short even though he has been presented opportunites.

I agree with you but, there is no way to tell whether O'Neal would have flopped or not, had he been in Kwame’s situation.

Being on a deep team was probably the best thing for O'Neal. There was no pressure on him, and he had time to get his feet under him. He was able to watch and learn from the sidelines without any of the negatives. He's not a lost cause just yet and he's worth the risk, IMO.

 

[Bricklayer]

i know that this wont go over very well with most of you but here it goes.... outside of the og position i have a trade idea....

corliss to orlando for hedo and Mario Kasun
and
kenny and #23 pick to dallas(theres the part that you wont like) for dampier....

playing miller at the 4 and damp at the 5 would be nice mario is a 7 ft 12th man so we could trade ostertag for someones bargain bin swing man.... fred jones maybe.... or throwing tag at the clippers for jaric. how about skinner and tag for maggette.... because both jaric and simmons are free agents what are the chances of the clipper keeping both? though they should and they can afford it.... they probably wont...

Why oh why would a bad team take Corliss in trade for Hedo? Just not happening. Hedo is better, younger, and more versatile than Corliss, and showed major signs this past season. I would obviosuly do it but its just an impossibility uinless we find a major major sweetener.

Dampier is getting older and did exactly what amny of us predicted -- came back down to Earth dramatically after signing his big deal. Classic contract year player. He's not our answer and costs a mint to boot. With no more contract years ahead for him until he's 36 or so, we'd have a long wait until he'd be an impact player again.

 

[hrdboild]

I'm far from sold on Kwame, but we're in classic nothing risked nothing gained territory right now. If we're sure of a player, so is the other team in all liklihood, and we're stuck shuffling solid middling players for other solid middling players. We really need to find a hidden or undervalued gem somewhere if we're going to regain our talent base.

Yeah, I definately agree with you there. I just think with Kwame, by my reckoning he's almost too big of a risk. Given everything he's done with Washington the past few years, do you feel good about having that kid filling a key role for your franchise? I sure don't. Maybe he will turn it around with a fresh start somewhere else though. Even so, his value as a young PF may attract too many teams desperate for an inside presence meaning somebody will have to overpay to get him. If he's available for a reasonable price, than sure. I would set that reasonable price pretty low though.

And no trades with Dallas please. Let someone else bail them out for overspending on everybody. Or better yet, let nobody bail them out.

 

[VF21]

i know that this wont go over very well with most of you but here it goes.... outside of the og position i have a trade idea....

corliss to orlando for hedo and Mario Kasun
and
kenny and #23 pick to dallas(theres the part that you wont like) for dampier....

playing miller at the 4 and damp at the 5 would be nice mario is a 7 ft 12th man so we could trade ostertag for someones bargain bin swing man.... fred jones maybe.... or throwing tag at the clippers for jaric. how about skinner and tag for maggette.... because both jaric and simmons are free agents what are the chances of the clipper keeping both? though they should and they can afford it.... they probably wont...

Would you care to explain what drug Petrie would be using to get Dallas or Orlando to agree?

It's really easy to come up with ideas you think would make the Kings better. It's much tougher, however, to come up with ideas that would actually BENEFIT each team - and that's what the majority of NBA trades are all about.

 

[VF21]

Hey there - Pacers Fan and PacersDigest man here. First post, blah blah blah.

In an effort to get a little cross-team dialogue going, VF posted this trade scenario on the PacersDigest forum. (Took a while to get my account approved for posting, so I apologize for the delay.) I think my favorite quote of the many replies went something like this: "The Kings only get to rape us once." To which I can only add "after that, it will cost them."

Sometimes when you know a team inside and out, you see value in players that might not necessary have value elsewhere in the league. Example: Fred Jones. Pacers guys love him and think he's a major bargaining chip or untouchable for trades (depending on who you ask) Outside of Pacer land, nobody could really give two shakes about the guy.

I think something like that may be happening when you assess the Kings players in this trade scenario. You see value where perhaps there is not much value. Handing you a talented/bargain/nutcase for two guys who play the position of our franchise player (who has made multiple public statements about not wanting to move to center) doesn't make sense. At least from a Pacers fan's point of view.

For what it's worth, I think there are several fans that would love to hand you Artest, but only if it means that Brad will come home. Others would love to see Bibby in Pacers blue and gold.

Again, you can have Artest, but baby, you only get one all-star for free from us. After that, it will cost you.

Welcome! Glad to see you here...

As far as giving you either Brad or Bibby, I don't see it happening...but then I didn't see the Webber trade happening either, so go figure.

Besides, in my world, Peja and Brad are going to Minnesota for Kevin Garnett, so we wouldn't be able to let Brad return to you.

 

[piksi]

Would you care to explain what drug Petrie would be using to get Dallas or Orlando to agree?

It would be a combo of booze, viagra and a hidden camera. (think black mail)

 

[foretaz]

well lets see...i think i joined about 3 weeks ago....it took this long to be approved to post....now i forgot what i wanted to say....

soooo....

got milk?

 

[foretaz]

now seriously....

pacers fan...

vf..posted a trade on our board...i think u got our response...

anyway....how bout croshere for miller?






seriously....id be interested in jon benders injury brother bobby jackson....anybody intrique u from our roster for him? preferably somewhat reasonable ideas....i wouldnt call artest for bobby jackson very reasonable to give u some idea...

but i would be interested in hearing ideas that include bobby in some different combinations...

f. jones comes to mind only because of what i appear to know about ur 2 guard situation...but feel free...

 

[whozit]

I'm feeling free, trade you Jackson and we'll take David Harrison and to make salaries work you can throw in Anthony Johnson also. Or if you don't want to give up Johnson, you can exchange him for Gill but that would require using your trade exemptions.

Now being serious, don't die laughing. Freddie Jones is about the only one that the salaries are close enough on without making a multi-player deal and I don't know that either team does that (Jackson for Jones).

 

[foretaz]

thats why i asked...both are quality backups...with similar salaries....jones and jackson, im speaking of.....the swap might fill a need for both....it seems trades usually discussed in this format usually involve one raping another....i was just curious since there is no obvious rape here...if jones for jackson is intriquing to kings fans or not....and no i realize its not like the brad miller deal where we kinda take it up the ying yang...

 

[whozit]

Trouble with that swap, it would leave the Kings hurting in the PG department and your team without a SG. It would address one need creating a much bigger one for both teams.

 

[SoupIsGood]

I'm feeling free, trade you Jackson and we'll take David Harrison and to make salaries work you can throw in Anthony Johnson also. Or if you don't want to give up Johnson, you can exchange him for Gill but that would require using your trade exemptions.

Now being serious, don't die laughing. Freddie Jones is about the only one that the salaries are close enough on without making a multi-player deal and I don't know that either team does that (Jackson for Jones).

I might lose it if that happened.

 

[foretaz]

Trouble with that swap, it would leave the Kings hurting in the PG department and your team without a SG. It would address one need creating a much bigger one for both teams.

alright...fair enuff....anthony johnson and fred jones for bobby jackson and ????

u tell me...

 

[Mad D]

Trouble with that swap, it would leave the Kings hurting in the PG department and your team without a SG. It would address one need creating a much bigger one for both teams.

Its not like Bobby played like a pg anyway. We could always re-sign House.

alright...fair enuff....anthony johnson and fred jones for bobby jackson and ????

u tell me...

I'd take Jones for Jackson straight.

 

[foretaz]

Its not like Bobby played like a pg anyway. We could always re-sign House.

I'd take Jones for Jackson straight.

ok...ill have my people call ur people....

and these nba guys make it seem so difficult

 

[SoupIsGood]

I wouldn't trade Freddy for Jackson.

Maybe if it were a younger, healthier Jackson, but I'd rather see how much better Fred will get, and Johnson is a decent back-up.

 

[whozit]

Jones for Jackson straight would require Indiana using around a million of their available 2 million of trade exemptions. Those trade exemptions can make making other trades much easier. Throw in Gill, who would be expendable, and the salaries are awfully close. I think I could go along (like "me" makes any difference) with it either way.

..... on the other hand, Jackson could be an important piece of bait for a bigger deal.

I still don't know why Indiana would give up a good, promising young player they have rights to for a player that they would probably only have for a year.

 

[foretaz]

Jones for Jackson straight would require Indiana using around a million of their available 2 million of trade exemptions. Those trade exemptions can make making other trades much easier. Throw in Gill, who would be expendable, and the salaries are awfully close. I think I could go along (like "me" makes any difference) with it either way.

..... on the other hand, Jackson could be an important piece of bait for a bigger deal.

I still don't know why Indiana would give up a good, promising young player they have rights to for a player that they would probably only have for a year.

alright...u get gill too...fair enuff...freddy and gill for b. jackson...

now...any other ideas???? anybody ur particularly fond of that we might talk a bit more in terms of trade?

 

[SacTownKid]

Would you care to explain what drug Petrie would be using to get Dallas or Orlando to agree?

It's really easy to come up with ideas you think would make the Kings better. It's much tougher, however, to come up with ideas that would actually BENEFIT each team - and that's what the majority of NBA trades are all about.

If Cuban does really want to dump Damps contract, like Realgm.com, Hoopshype, etc. have been reporting it would be a piece of cake. I would rather take on a guy like Ratliff if your going to take a one-dimensional overpaid center.

 

[Entity]

alright...u get gill too...fair enuff...freddy and gill for b. jackson...

now...any other ideas???? anybody ur particularly fond of that we might talk a bit more in terms of trade?

How about Mike Bibby and Corlis Williamson For Artest and Tinsley?

Then we could start Bobby and finally have defense at the PG and SG spots.

 

[VF21]

Pacer fans - Entity is desperate to get Artest onto our team. Please do NOT assume his trade proposals are representative of the majority of Kings fans here.

 

[Entity]

Hey we need defense and Bibby is our weakest defender. Alot of talk about how well Bjax has played defense that would solve our backcourt defensive problems and not loose in scoring at all. Plus Tinsley would be a good backup incase Bobby's head falls off or something.

P.S. VF21 -- I knew another Artest trade scenrio from me would get your attention

 

[thesanityannex]

It's much tougher, however, to come up with ideas that would actually BENEFIT each team - and that's what the majority of NBA trades are all about.

Except the Webber trade, I don't think anyone benefited from that one.

 

[Entity]

Then VF we could pull off your Peja and Miller for Garnett trade and have a nice lineup.

Bjax/Tinsley
Evans/Martin/Barnes
Artest/Barnes
Garnett/Thomas/Simien
Skinner/Ostertag/some other Center who cares we got Garnett

 

[16to93]

could garnett play center?