OFFICIAL trade thread. Post trade proposals HERE! (merged)

[CaminoChaos]

We are trying to get a new arena. Like it or not, that has to play into the Maloofs and Petrie's decisions about players.

i don't think offseason moves have anything to do with a new arena

 

[chelle]

Normally, i would agree. However, this season is different. We have to have a competative team, at least, on the court this coming season. The general fan base dropped off considerably last season. People began to simply not care. If The Maloofs really want a new arena, they need to have give the fans a boost. People have to care again. I could be way off base about this, but it seems to me that the best way to get fans excited again is to put a good product on the court. If they scrap next season to be able to possibly make more moves the season after that, they will lose more fans. Hard and fast fans like maost of us on this board will still be around, but many will leave. That cannot help their agenda in getting a new arena. I am not saying that they will base major player decisions on that. I am just saying that they will need to think about that issue when weighing long term/short term moves. T

 

[Diabeticwonder]

i don't think offseason moves have anything to do with a new arena

No not directly, but they are very much related. I don't think that the Kings' brass is sitting around and trying to think of trades or FA's to sign with the intent of those moves making it more possible to get a new arena. However, the better team they put on the floor the more likely it will be that a new arena gets built and the offseason is the time when they can put a better team on the floor. So, a new arena and this offseason are related, but IMO the motivation for offseason moves is not to get a new arena, but to put together a better team, which will eventually lead to more liklihood that a new arena will be built.

 

[VF21]

There's a general discontent brewing in the traditionally rabid fan base. It started, for some, with the whole Webber debacle when he was given a suspension for "drug policy" reasons. The discontent grew when Vlade went to LA, became more prominent in some extent when Doug was traded to Orlando. During all this, the Maloofs were NOT paying attention to educating people about the NEED for a new arena. Then, in February, the roof exploded. The Webber trade did not go down well with a lot of fans, regardless of what the majority might be posting on fan boards. Then, to add to the general malaise, ticket prices have gone up again... and the product the Kings are going to put on the court is, to put it nicely, a "work in progress."

Right now, everything is jumbled together. Even things as normally inocuous as new alternate uniforms might have a long-reaching effect. The Maloofs, IMHO, need to start a very strong media campaign aimed at winning back the fans that just might have realized the emperor has no clothes...

 

[mbkings10]

i'm looking into the future. we did pretty well without miller last year when he was injured. even if we don't get those players losing miller won't kill us and we will have cap room to spend good money on a great free agent. what suck about not being strapped for money. especially with the possibility of having a hard cap purposed in the new CBA.

what suck about that?

No we actually didn't do that well without Brad last year. We were basically a .500 team without him, and it was clear he wasn't close to 100% in the playoffs. Brad is vital to our high post offense, which leads to easy baskets for everyone. I agree that unless we package Brad to get a superstar player back, we do not trade him. We can't bank on free agency to help us, and the names you mentioned are either going to be resigned or not worth the money to get.

 

[VF21]

i'm looking into the future. we did pretty well without miller last year when he was injured. even if we don't get those players losing miller won't kill us and we will have cap room to spend good money on a great free agent. what suck about not being strapped for money. especially with the possibility of having a hard cap purposed in the new CBA.

what suck about that?

We didn't do pretty well without Miller. Losing Miller FOR NOTHING might not kill us but it certainly won't help. Having cap money to spend on a great free agent only works if you're pretty danged sure you can snag one of those free agents. I see no reason to assume we would able to do so. Centers aren't that easy to find; centers with mid-range jumpers AND passing ability are fewer still. Centers willing in this day and age to actually mix it up and go to the ground - actually breaking a leg and continuing to play - are even rarer...

 

[whozit]

I am going to combine a couple of previous trades and twist them up a little.

I am going to trade Kenny Thomas (+using most of the trade exemptions) for Shareef Abdur-Rahim. Kings do this simply because they need a bigger starting PF. This is a huge gamble in the hopes that the change of scenery works wonders. (not his fault that the teams he has been on have been bad although he didn't help but put up numbers) Kings don't do this simply because Shareef has the reputation of playing soft (8.1 rpg career average) and does not have a winning history. Portland does this because they will be short in PF department, are most likely going to lose him due to issues with mgmt., plus Kenny is a good character and averages near 10/10 in a limited capacity. It also lowers payroll by several million.

I am going to give Songalia a raise to resign him. I believe his opting out was understood when he signed his last contract.

I am going to trade Bobby Jackson, Brian Skinner and Corliss Williamson for Jason Williams, Bonzi Wells and their first (19th pick). Kings do this to get the pick and they need a starting SG (no assurances that they will be able to resign Mo or if he is even starter material). Memphis does this to get rid of two problem children in exchange for three servicable players (back up PG, back up PF and SF) The Kings don't do this due to head cases and conflict in playing time for the PGs. The Grizzlies don't do this because they can possibly get a better deal, might just want to be rid of Bonzi's salary and SF isn't the position needing the most backup.

The Kings lose Mobley and Evans to FA. Mobley simply because they used the money in the exemptions instead. Evans simply because the team isn't willing to absorb much more salary and they want to develop the youngsters. They also resign Barnes simply because he is fan favorite (hometown) and he is cheap.

My new lineup is:

PG - Mike Bibby
PG - Jason Williams

SG - Bonzi Wells
SG - Kevin Martin

SG/SF - draft

SF - Peja Stojakovic
SF - Matt Barnes

PF - Shareef Abdur-Rahim
PF - Darius Songalia

PF/C - draft

C - Brad Miller
C - Greg Ostertag

Nothing to write home to mom about but it allows for an influx of new talent. The team has lost a lot in that department the last few years. It also allows the system to go on and keep the core intact. The team is not a contender but should be able to compete and be entertaining. Petrie didn't assemble the first team overnight and he probably won't again. This allows for a decent starting point in which to begin. It also does not break the bank.

There are plenty of holes .... fire away.

 

[VF21]

You think Jason Williams was mad the FIRST time he was traded from the Kings? Try bringing him back and making him play second fiddle to the guy who replaced him!

That alone is enough to shoot down the entire deal.

 

[whozit]

The issue with playing time was mentioned. Although in terms of holes that one is slightly larger than a gaping one.


On the other hand, they are big boys and they can come out of the corner when they are done throwing their tantrums. Give them both a challenge, the one who learns how to play defense gets to play when the game is on the line.

It isn't like there is team chemistry that is in risk of being damaged. They didn't have time to build it.

 

[VF21]

You're giving up our premiere spark plug in Bobby, one of the FEW Kings who can actually play hard defense in Corliss, and throwing in the only guy who has really shown a penchant for blocking in Brian. You're proposing we get back Jason Williams (who honestly is a border-line head case, and has never hidden just how upset he STILL is with the Maloofs over being traded), Bonzi Wells who is another borderline headcase and not especially astute at anything, and the 19th pick in the draft. That simply isn't enough, IMHO. The 19th pick in the draft? Please.

 

[Bballkingsrock]

Kings Wacky Trade But Is Still Good:

Kings trade:

Kenny Thomas
Brian Skinner

Lakers Trade:

Lamar Odom

Also, KIngs will do a sign ad trade with Cuttino to Denver for Voshawn Loenard. All the trades work on RealGm excpet hte Cuttino one but I am pretty sure it will work. Kings will get one of myf avorite players that is not on the Kings. Lamar is a tall PF or SF and ccan be a great starting line-up like this:

C- Brad
PF- Lamar
SF - Peja
SG - Voshawn
PG- Mike

What do yall think?

 

[whozit]

Adelman reportidly has good people skills, have him remind him that when he first came it was the rebirth of a defuct organization and now he can be a piece to avoid that pitfall again.

Besides, it isn't like any of our ideas are going to happen anyways.

 

[VF21]

whozit - Adelman was one of the people who had problems with Williams, in case you've forgotten or didn't know in the first place.

You proposed a trade. I didn't realize you didn't want people to point out the flaws. Sorry...

 

[whozit]

No, I did not know. At that time all I could do was follow the Kings by what was mentioned on the boards and we know that everything said is gospel.

That fact makes a big difference. (the differences between Adelman and Williams not the not knowing)

Darn, dial-up stinks.

 

[thesanityannex]

Pending P.Jackson coming to town:
Lakers trade-Lamar Odom
Kings trade-Kenny Thomas, Brian Skinner

 

[VF21]

No, I did not know. At that time all I could do was follow the Kings by what was mentioned on the boards and we know that everything said is gospel.

That fact makes a big difference. (the differences between Adelman and Williams not the not knowing)

Darn, dial-up stinks.

Don't get me wrong. Adelman wasn't foaming at the mouth 24/7 about Jason. Let's just say he wasn't AT ALL happy with Jason's proclivity for ill-advised shots, shooting off his mouth, etc. Although Jason's game has matured because of Hubie Brown's influence, I simply cannot see Petrie pulling a trigger on a deal that would bring Williams back to Sacramento. There simply isn't enough on the plus side of the balance sheet to justify the negatives, IMHO.

 

[Bballkingsrock]

Pending P.Jackson coming to town:
Lakers trade-Lamar Odom
Kings trade-Kenny Thomas, Brian Skinner

I just put that trade down?

 

[thesanityannex]

did you?
yes.
but you left out why lamar leaves!

 

[Elektrik]

There's a general discontent brewing in the traditionally rabid fan base. It started, for some, with the whole Webber debacle when he was given a suspension for "drug policy" reasons. The discontent grew when Vlade went to LA, became more prominent in some extent when Doug was traded to Orlando. During all this, the Maloofs were NOT paying attention to educating people about the NEED for a new arena. Then, in February, the roof exploded. The Webber trade did not go down well with a lot of fans, regardless of what the majority might be posting on fan boards. Then, to add to the general malaise, ticket prices have gone up again... and the product the Kings are going to put on the court is, to put it nicely, a "work in progress."

Right now, everything is jumbled together. Even things as normally inocuous as new alternate uniforms might have a long-reaching effect. The Maloofs, IMHO, need to start a very strong media campaign aimed at winning back the fans that just might have realized the emperor has no clothes...

You generally make solid points in most of your posts and of late I have noticed a kinder/gentler VF21. I think you have made a very accurate assesment of the general Kings malaise that we have witnessed in the last year and half and I think every point you touched on has had a direct effect on the fan base. Nice post. Now, hopefully those that make the decisions see it all as well as you do.

 

[whozit]

You're giving up our premiere spark plug in Bobby, one of the FEW Kings who can actually play hard defense in Corliss, and throwing in the only guy who has really shown a penchant for blocking in Brian. You're proposing we get back Jason Williams (who honestly is a border-line head case, and has never hidden just how upset he STILL is with the Maloofs over being traded), Bonzi Wells who is another borderline headcase and not especially astute at anything, and the 19th pick in the draft. That simply isn't enough, IMHO. The 19th pick in the draft? Please.

Please note that the hole you blew in the balloon has sunk this ship.

But netherless, how much of a spark Bobby still is remains a question? It has been a while since he has been able to remain on the floor healthy for any period of time. After this coming season, there will likely be a PG issue to deal with. To make moves, pieces have to be exchanged.

With both of the headcases, I was minimizing it by Adelman's reputed people skills. He has to be a factor in how few locker room problems that are heard. Bonzi would have been a one year case anyways.

I do find it funny that if a player is going to remain on the team then (using Corliss as an example) he is too small for PF and too slow for SF, he is only good for overpowering smaller players. But if you are going to exchange him then, your going to get rid of the one player who plays hard nosed defense. He either fits or doesn't. I think he may be one of the misfits. If moves are going to be made, something has to give. I would rather it be him than one of the big pieces. I want to add to our borderline all-star talent not remove any of it. I am coming from the perspective that the "one" big move isn't going to happen this summer. Too many variables that have to be reckoned with first.

As far as Skinner goes, I initially had Ostertag down. But that leaves the team with one 7 footer. He is one for me that is hard too swallow, I would like the team to keep him. I choose a bitter pill.

This draft is reportedly deep in the SF and PF positions, both areas that the team has holes in. Looking at righting the ship by stopping the sinking. In both positions there are intriging players that should be available at those picks.

Would the trade be an easy one to make? no, tough decisions. Part of my rationale is based on what could be called a cloudy outlook for the team. Too high a price? possibly yes with definate gambles involved.

 

[whozit]

Don't get me wrong. Adelman wasn't foaming at the mouth 24/7 about Jason. Let's just say he wasn't AT ALL happy with Jason's proclivity for ill-advised shots, shooting off his mouth, etc. Although Jason's game has matured because of Hubie Brown's influence, I simply cannot see Petrie pulling a trigger on a deal that would bring Williams back to Sacramento. There simply isn't enough on the plus side of the balance sheet to justify the negatives, IMHO.

I remember that part. Would Petrie pull the trigger on this, probably not. It would be a huge gamble, but it was a huge gamble before that brought this team back from the grave. (although in hindsight that one was a no-brainer)

In my comment earlier about ideas we come up with actually happening was largely based on Petrie doing the unexpected. It was not in defense that my proposal was DOA.

The biggest problem with my idea was in terms of defense. My only hope would be it would be the opposite of the team that was "better" on paper we saw last year. It would be a horrible "paper" defensive team so maybe karma would leave us with a decent one.

 

[whozit]

Kings Wacky Trade But Is Still Good:

Kings trade:

Kenny Thomas
Brian Skinner

Lakers Trade:

Lamar Odom

Also, KIngs will do a sign ad trade with Cuttino to Denver for Voshawn Loenard. All the trades work on RealGm excpet hte Cuttino one but I am pretty sure it will work. Kings will get one of myf avorite players that is not on the Kings. Lamar is a tall PF or SF and ccan be a great starting line-up like this:

C- Brad
PF- Lamar
SF - Peja
SG - Voshawn
PG- Mike

What do yall think?

I like the Odom part but why does LA do that? They would be very unbalanced with 4 PFs and 3 centers assuming Vlade isn't brought back.

 

[16to93]

I like the Odom part but why does LA do that? They would be very unbalanced with 4 PFs and 3 centers assuming Vlade isn't brought back.

Kenny Thomas can play SF.

 

[Bricklayer]

Kenny Thomas can play SF.

Yes, but so can Lamar.

Listen, when that Odom for Peja talk was around midseason, it wasn't only people up here balking. And now they would take random lesser players with ugly contracts? These sorts of deals just aren't happening -- have to give the other team SOME reason to bite. Just no temptation for the Lakers in this case.

 

[whozit]

Do to undeniable problems with my last proposal, I have made some modifications.

Please note my disclaimer: Despite putting Shareef in nearly all of my propositions, it is not because I truelly just have to have him on the team I root for. It is simply because of the FA PF available, he seems to be the one that fits the system and Kings style basketball best. (including unfortunately defense). However, he is a career 19.8ppg, 8.1rpg, 2.7apg and sadly only 0.8bpg.

I am now going to trade Kenny Thomas and Corliss Williamson for Shareef Abdur-Rahim. Kings do this simply because they need a bigger starting PF. This is a huge gamble in the hopes that the change of scenery works wonders. (not his fault that the teams he has been on have been bad although he didn't help but put up numbers) Kings don't do this simply because Shareef has the reputation of playing soft (8.1 rpg career average) and does not have a winning history. Portland does this because they will be short in PF department, both are in the good citizen department, both are quality (not great) players and are most likely going to lose Shareef due to issues with mgmt. anyways. Shareef forces the issue to be on a winning team (hopefully), no role conflict and simply this way he gets his money. Win-win-win.

I am going to give Songalia a raise to resign him. I believe his opting out was understood when he signed his last contract.

I am going to trade Brian Skinner (using 3mil. of the trade exemptions) for Bonzi Wells and their first (19th pick). Kings do this to get the pick and they need a starting SG (no assurances that they will be able to resign Mo or if he is even starter material). Memphis does this to get rid of a problem child and they get in return a respectable shot blocker, PF/C. That is a area of concern that they needed to address. It also lowers their payroll.

The Kings lose Mobley and Evans to FA. Mobley simply because they used the money in the exemptions instead. Evans simply because the team isn't willing to absorb much more salary and they want to develop the youngsters. They also resign Barnes simply because he is fan favorite (hometown) and he is cheap.

My new lineup is:

PG - Mike Bibby
PG - Bobby Jackson

SG - Bonzi Wells
SG - Kevin Martin

SG/SF - draft

SF - Peja Stojakovic
SF - Matt Barnes

PF - Shareef Abdur-Rahim
PF - Darius Songalia

PF/C - draft

C - Brad Miller
C - Greg Ostertag

I might be prudent to keep a House and Daniels on IR for the inevitable injury. Those two also know the system already and would be able to step in.

Still nothing to write home to mom about but it allows for an influx of new talent. The team has lost a lot in that department the last few years. It also allows the system to go on and keeps the core intact. This team is not a contender but should be able to compete and be entertaining. Petrie didn't assemble the first team overnight and he probably won't again. This allows for a decent starting point in which to begin. It also does not break the bank.

There are still plenty of holes .... fire away.

Although I think I did address the main points of contention. As for the defense, I hope it is better defensively than it is on paper.

 

[Bibby_Is_Clutch]

Like Totally!!

Back to present day! (Thanks for the flashback) I am not for scrapping next season completely and that is what will do if we trade Miller and Williamson for Thomas, or just about anybody outside of KG. I DO NOT want any panic moves. I also do not think the fans base can handle another first round exit or not playoff appearance at all. A team going through normal ups and down coud deal with it. We, however, are not at a normal stage. We are trying to get a new arena. Like it or not, that has to play into the Maloofs and Petrie's decisions about players.

Im not saying you are right or wrong but I just want to know how you think the new arena is impacting the Maloofs and Petrie's decision on players.

 

[Bricklayer]

Do to undeniable problems with my last proposal, I have made some modifications.

Please note my disclaimer: Despite putting Shareef in nearly all of my propositions, it is not because I truelly just have to have him on the team I root for. It is simply because of the FA PF available, he seems to be the one that fits the system and Kings style basketball best. (including unfortunately defense). However, he is a career 19.8ppg, 8.1rpg, 2.7apg and sadly only 0.8bpg.

I am now going to trade Kenny Thomas and Corliss Williamson for Shareef Abdur-Rahim. Kings do this simply because they need a bigger starting PF. This is a huge gamble in the hopes that the change of scenery works wonders. (not his fault that the teams he has been on have been bad although he didn't help but put up numbers) Kings don't do this simply because Shareef has the reputation of playing soft (8.1 rpg career average) and does not have a winning history. Portland does this because they will be short in PF department, both are in the good citizen department, both are quality (not great) players and are most likely going to lose Shareef due to issues with mgmt. anyways. Shareef forces the issue to be on a winning team (hopefully), no role conflict and simply this way he gets his money. Win-win-win.

I am going to give Songalia a raise to resign him. I believe his opting out was understood when he signed his last contract.

I am going to trade Brian Skinner (using 3mil. of the trade exemptions) for Bonzi Wells and their first (19th pick). Kings do this to get the pick and they need a starting SG (no assurances that they will be able to resign Mo or if he is even starter material). Memphis does this to get rid of a problem child and they get in return a respectable shot blocker, PF/C. That is a area of concern that they needed to address. It also lowers their payroll.

The Kings lose Mobley and Evans to FA. Mobley simply because they used the money in the exemptions instead. Evans simply because the team isn't willing to absorb much more salary and they want to develop the youngsters. They also resign Barnes simply because he is fan favorite (hometown) and he is cheap.

My new lineup is:

PG - Mike Bibby
PG - Bobby Jackson

SG - Bonzi Wells
SG - Kevin Martin

SG/SF - draft

SF - Peja Stojakovic
SF - Matt Barnes

PF - Shareef Abdur-Rahim
PF - Darius Songalia

PF/C - draft

C - Brad Miller
C - Greg Ostertag

I might be prudent to keep a House and Daniels on IR for the inevitable injury. Those two also know the system already and would be able to step in.

Still nothing to write home to mom about but it allows for an influx of new talent. The team has lost a lot in that department the last few years. It also allows the system to go on and keeps the core intact. This team is not a contender but should be able to compete and be entertaining. Petrie didn't assemble the first team overnight and he probably won't again. This allows for a decent starting point in which to begin. It also does not break the bank.

There are still plenty of holes .... fire away.

Although I think I did address the main points of contention. As for the defense, I hope it is better defensively than it is on paper.

I would very much like to get the extra draft pick from Memphis, and shedding the bad PF contracts is a good thing.

That said -- that team is completely hopeless defensively and there are nowhere near enough basketballs to go around. Every single guy in th rotation needs the ball to be effective. No roleplayers. No dirty work guys. The Shareef/Darius combo is the softest PF combo in the league, we've actually gotten weaker on the boards and our most physical player is our borderline psycho SG.

 

[chelle]

Im not saying you are right or wrong but I just want to know how you think the new arena is impacting the Maloofs and Petrie's decision on players.

I'm sorry I was not more clear. I did not mean that it woud affect their decisions on individual players. I just meant that scrapping next season in order to make a bigger play for a free agent the season after would further distance and lose fans. Next to contending for the championship, getting a new arena appears to be the highest thing on the Maloof's agenda concerning the Kings. This will not happen without strong fan support since it will be voted on by the public if it is going to include public money. Most people say that a new arena must be in the works soon, or it will not happen. I believe they cannot afford to wait even one season in doing all they can to reestablish this franchise in the hearts of the fans. A once rabid fan base has become increasingly unconcerned at best. The quickest way to bring this feeling back is to prove that they will do what it takes to bring the Kings back to title contenders ASAP. Making trades that will help us years from now, while ideal in most seasons, is not what they need right now.
Again, I am not saying that the arena issue will dictate decisions on players. What I am saying is that every decision, large or small, is going to have an impact on a group of fans that, IMHO, feel abandoned at worst and in limbo at best. Everything is very interconnected right now. Unfortunatley, one will impact the other.

 

[mbkings10]

Who wants Kevin Garnett Baby!! Found this on RealGM forum and I am lovin it!! Fair for all teams and each team would like their part:

Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Mike Bibby
6-1 PG from Arizona
19.6 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 6.8 apg in 38.5 minutes

Peja Stojakovic
6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
20.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 38.4 minutes

Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes

First Round #23 Pick
0-0 from
No games yet played in 2004/05

Incoming

Kevin Garnett
6-11 PF from Farragut Academy HS (IL)
22.2 ppg, 13.5 rpg, 5.7 apg in 38.0 minutes

Troy Hudson
6-1 PG from Southern Illinois
8.8 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 3.6 apg in 21.9 minutes

Fred Hoiberg
6-5 SG from Iowa State
5.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 16.7 minutes
Change in team outlook: -13.7 ppg, +5.0 rpg, and +0.6 apg.


Boston Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Paul Pierce
6-6 SF from Kansas
21.6 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 4.2 apg in 36.1 minutes

Marcus Banks
6-2 PG from UNLV
4.6 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 1.9 apg in 14.1 minutes

Delonte West
6-4 PG from St. Joseph's
4.5 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 1.4 apg in 13.0 minutes

Incoming

Mike Bibby
6-1 PG from Arizona
19.6 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 6.8 apg in 38.5 minutes

First Round #23 Pick
0-0 from
No games yet played in 2004/05

Trenton Hassell
6-5 SG from Austin Peay
6.6 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.6 apg in 25.2 minutes
Change in team outlook: -4.5 ppg, -3.0 rpg, and +0.9 apg.


Minnesota Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Kevin Garnett
6-11 PF from Farragut Academy HS (IL)
22.2 ppg, 13.5 rpg, 5.7 apg in 38.0 minutes

Troy Hudson
6-1 PG from Southern Illinois
8.8 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 3.6 apg in 21.9 minutes

Trenton Hassell
6-5 SG from Austin Peay
6.6 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.6 apg in 25.2 minutes
Fred Hoiberg
6-5 SG from Iowa State
5.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 16.7 minutes

Incoming

Peja Stojakovic
6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
20.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 38.4 minutes

Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes

Paul Pierce
6-6 SF from Kansas
21.6 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 4.2 apg in 36.1 minutes

Marcus Banks
6-2 PG from UNLV
4.6 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 1.9 apg in 14.1 minutes

Delonte West
6-4 PG from St. Joseph's
4.5 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 1.4 apg in 13.0 minutes
Change in team outlook: +18.2 ppg, -2.0 rpg, and -1.5 apg.



Successful Scenario
Due to Sacramento, Boston, and Minnesota being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Sacramento, Boston, and Minnesota had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

......................................................................
Sac gets KG. Deal done.

Boston gets Bibby for Pierce. And Hassell to play D. Most Boston fans would do this IMO. Bibby and Jefferson could become a force in the East with Ricky Davis as the wingman.

Minny gets a new start with Pierce, Peja, Banks, West and Corliss. That's two young promising PG's and a SG/SF combo of Pierce and Peja. Minny can resign Eddie Griffen for a PF (Corliss can help at PF) and use the MLE/Draft for another big. Maybe Minny could trade Sam's expiring deal as well. Pierce and Peja would put people in the seat in Minny. All McHale would have to do is get bigs that can rebound and clog the lane. Pierce and Peja could put up close to 50 a night on average if used properly. That would be one of the best scoring combo's in the league in return for KG. And Minny could dump Hudson's deal for Banks/West.

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Do yall like it? I would like your thoughts about this trade, please. Thanks. I bet a lot of popel will like this trae. If you want mods, you can make its own thread.

Interesting trade suggestion. Although I really wouldn't want to part with Bibby. I would try everything to package Miller, Stojakovic and whoever else to try and get Garnett. I think the whole beauty of the trade is to see Bibby paired with Garnett and what a lethal combination that would be.

 

[Bballkingsrock]

Interesting trade suggestion. Although I really wouldn't want to part with Bibby. I would try everything to package Miller, Stojakovic and whoever else to try and get Garnett. I think the whole beauty of the trade is to see Bibby paired with Garnett and what a lethal combination that would be.

Yeah, but it would mean Bobby would get a starting role and he would be playing with KG who used to be teammates. Plus, Bibby does not do ANY defense for the most importnat role to play ddefense because the PG can pass you and crate. PLus, Miller can pass very well, and it will be the best pasing big men duo in the league!