Offer: #23+#31 for #15?

#33
with the 4th and 15th pick we now have a leverage to move up to the 2 spot...

trade 4th and 15th for 2nd and 27th as i said earlier.. i think memphis is the one who will court us for this one now.. why?

they get a shot at tyreke evans and at the same time get a solid PF after the lottery picks.. a guy like tyler or blair.. heck they can take a run at mullens too.
 
#34
Hansbrough definitely..


Blair's knees are shot..


OK.. This is what I think will happen..

1. If Rubio, Flynn, and Evans are available we take Rubio

2. If Flynn, Harden, and Evans are available we take Flynn.

I do not see the Kings taking Evans, Thabeet, or Harden if they are available at 4th, and they only take Flynn if Rubio is not there. They definitely take Rubio if he is.
 
#36
Its like Christmas eve! I am having my draft party tomorrow like ever year, but I bought a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue label for what I hope is a good draft.


Rubio or Johnnie for Johnny!
 
#37
I can see it now... Kings package the #15 + Garcia or Noc to move up into the top 10 and pick Jonny Flynn.

One can always dream...
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#38
Hansbrough definitely..


Blair's knees are shot..


OK.. This is what I think will happen..

1. If Rubio, Flynn, and Evans are available we take Rubio

2. If Flynn, Harden, and Evans are available we take Flynn.

I do not see the Kings taking Evans, Thabeet, or Harden if they are available at 4th, and they only take Flynn if Rubio is not there. They definitely take Rubio if he is.
From everything I've read. From every interview I've listened to, including both Petrie interviews and the Jerry Reynolds interview, and the fact that Evans simply dominated in every workout. It is my belief that if he's available at 4, the Kings will pick Evans. I like Flynn, I like Rubio, and I like Evans. I'll be happy with any of them. But I think the Kings like Evans.

I know you don't like him, but that doesn't mean the Kings won't pick him. They've picked players before without discussing it with me. Hard to believe, I know. My personal choice is between Evans and Rubio. I will admit to being torn. They both bring something that the Kings need. So here's how I look at it. I think that at the NBA level, Evans can do some of what Rubio does best. Certainly not at the same level, and not with the same flair. But non the less, he can do some of it.

At the same time, I think Rubio will have a hard time doing what Evans does best. Evans is just a more physcial player. So I'm leaning toward Evans. But I could be wrong. Damm! Its a really hard decision...
 
#39
Don't know man.. I have been getting some weird vibes the last couple days too.


My list on who I DON'T want here in Sacramento is as follows..

1. Evans
2. Thabeet
3. Curry
4. Harden
5. Hill

That basically Leaves Griffin, Rubio, and Flynn.. We aren't getting Griffin and if Rubio is gone my list just consists of Flynn.
Take Evans off that list and you pretty much have my list too. I wouldnt be too disappointed with Harden either though. If your list just consists of Flynn WHEN Rubio is taken, why do you have Holiday in your sig? (I like Holiday too btw)
 
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LWP777

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#40
From everything I've read. From every interview I've listened to, including both Petrie interviews and the Jerry Reynolds interview, and the fact that Evans simply dominated in every workout. It is my belief that if he's available at 4, the Kings will pick Evans. I like Flynn, I like Rubio, and I like Evans. I'll be happy with any of them. But I think the Kings like Evans.

I know you don't like him, but that doesn't mean the Kings won't pick him. They've picked players before without discussing it with me. Hard to believe, I know. My personal choice is between Evans and Rubio. I will admit to being torn. They both bring something that the Kings need. So here's how I look at it. I think that at the NBA level, Evans can do some of what Rubio does best. Certainly not at the same level, and not with the same flair. But non the less, he can do some of it.

At the same time, I think Rubio will have a hard time doing what Evans does best. Evans is just a more physcial player. So I'm leaning toward Evans. But I could be wrong. Damm! Its a really hard decision...
We agree! I also would be thrilled with either Rubio or Evans but I just have a feeling I'm going to be disappointed tomorrow. I think it will go:

1. Griffin
2. Thabeet
3. Rubio
4. Flynn
5. Evans

I really want Evans over Flynn but I think GP will pick Flynn.

:(
 
#41
We agree! I also would be thrilled with either Rubio or Evans but I just have a feeling I'm going to be disappointed tomorrow. I think it will go:

1. Griffin
2. Thabeet
3. Rubio
4. Flynn
5. Evans

I really want Evans over Flynn but I think GP will pick Flynn.

:(
I just don't see how Rubio fits in with OKC. Now they have a backcourt where both players need the ball in their hands a lot and neither one can shoot. This also gives less possessions initiating the plays for Durant, who's a pretty darn good scorer too. I think it's a bluff by Presti to try to get a team like Minnesota or us to trade up with them.
 
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LWP777

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#43
I just don't see how Rubio fits in with OKC. Now they have a backcourt where both players need the ball in their hands a lot and neither one can shoot. This also gives less possessions initiating the plays for Durant, who's a pretty darn good scorer too. I think it's a bluff by Presti to try to get a team like Minnesota or us to trade up with them.
I really hope you are right. I think they would be better off with Evans/Curry/Harden than Rubio.
 
#44
I really hope you are right. I think they would be better off with Evans/Curry/Harden than Rubio.
In particular Harden. He would be the Jeff Green of their back court. A player who can create his own shot, but also play off the ball. An unselfish player who can help move the ball and create shots for his teammates. And a good shooter who can help space the floor for Westbrook, Green and Durant. Although, I am sure Presti would love to deal with us and pick up and extra draft pick or asset and still get Harden.
 
#45
If they did trade up to #15 or so, they could take the best player available at #4 regardless of position. (Evans, Harden, or even Jordan Hill) Then grab the best pg available at #15, and there should be plenty of them left that could win the starting job by November. (Lawson, Jennings, Teague, Mills)
 
#46
I just don't see how Rubio fits in with OKC. Now they have a backcourt where both players need the ball in their hands a lot and neither one can shoot. This also gives less possessions initiating the plays for Durant, who's a pretty darn good scorer too. I think it's a bluff by Presti to try to get a team like Minnesota or us to trade up with them.

This may have been mentioned before but has anyone seen ESPN the Mags Mock Draft where a player from each team makes the pick. At #3 for the Thunder Russell Westbrook picks Harden and they ask him about the possibility of Rubio and his answer was "your tripping". I just don't know how that would go over with that team if they take Rubio. Either way I am looking forward to tomorrow (well I guess its today now)
 
#48
This may have been mentioned before but has anyone seen ESPN the Mags Mock Draft where a player from each team makes the pick. At #3 for the Thunder Russell Westbrook picks Harden and they ask him about the possibility of Rubio and his answer was "your tripping". I just don't know how that would go over with that team if they take Rubio. Either way I am looking forward to tomorrow (well I guess its today now)
Yeah, and they had great chemistry working for them. I just don't see it happening. We'll find out today, but my money is on OKC drafting Harden unless they have a prearranged deal to trade Rubio. Presti is planning for the future, but he also wants the team to be better this season and not regress.
 
#49
im happy that most of us are excited but im going to try my best not to get too excited about all of this. I know our luck sucks so i'll just hope for the best and expect the worst.
 
#50
im happy that most of us are excited but im going to try my best not to get too excited about all of this. I know our luck sucks so i'll just hope for the best and expect the worst.
That's a good idea, for our sanity, maybe we should have a Kings guide to managing expectations:

Pick #4:

Hope for - Rubio or Evans
Expect - Holiday or Hill

Pick #23

Hope for - Casspi or Teague
Expect - Jon Brockman or Chase Budinger

Pick #31

Hope for - Patty Mills or Calathes
Expect - The pick to be sold or traded for a player with a horrific contract

If we all manage to set our expectations low, than we will be thrilled when we wind up with Curry, Calathes and Claver.
 
#51
I hope we stay away from Blair. I think the kid is gonna get some boards but he isn't skilled down low and at the next level he won't be out muscle guys like he did in college.
 
#52
This is my order in the draft for the KINGS:

1. EVANS
2. RUBIO
3. CURRY
4. FLYNN

IN THAT ORDER. Picking anybody else besides those 4 will be a big disappointment.
 

Kingster

Hall of Famer
#53
It's funny, I just posted that they should do this, and then - voila! - this comes up. I think the Kings only have a few guys that really interest them after the top 6-7 slots, so I wouldn't be surprised if they do this at all. At least I hope they are doing it, if in fact they are keen on just a couple of guys that may be gone by #23. By the way, this may be a trickle-down effect of the Portland trade (as I mentioned earlier).
 

Kingster

Hall of Famer
#54
I agree. If Rubio and Evans are gone by #4 who else? Thabeet - I seriously doubt it and hope not. Flynn - I know some Kings brass are enamored - but at #4!? Curry seems most likely and I would not be all that upset - just a bit peeved that it all went down this way. Only thing that could help make up for all of it would be swapping #23 and #31 for #15.
Flynn would be left. Or Harden.
 
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#55
Do it!

I'd do that deal.

I liked blair before I found out how bad his knees were.

I would love to grab earl clark with that pick .. or Terrence Williams.
I would do it. Blair would give them some much needed toughness off the bench.
I love Terrence Williams game and would take him here, but I don't think he will be there at 15. Take Williams and trade Martin. Should be able to get another piece(s) to the puzzle for him.
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#56
We agree! I also would be thrilled with either Rubio or Evans but I just have a feeling I'm going to be disappointed tomorrow. I think it will go:

1. Griffin
2. Thabeet
3. Rubio
4. Flynn
5. Evans

I really want Evans over Flynn but I think GP will pick Flynn.

:(
I certainly hope your wrong on the last part. :eek:
 
#57
JENNINGS SLIDING?: As the candidates woke to draft day, the player sliding out of the lottery appeared to be point guard Brandon Jennings, who bypassed his freshman year of college in order to spend last season with the Euroleague club Lottomatica Rome of Italy.
By my count, the only top-10 teams considering Jennings are the Knicks at No. 8 and the Bucks at No. 10, and Jennings is unlikely to go to either of them unless one or more trades change the order of the draft.
The smart move would be to take Jennings out of the green room, but Jennings and agent Bill Duffy had yet to meet as of Thursday morning. I'm sure Duffy will remind Jennings that the order of the draft is meaningless; what matters is that he joins a team that is happy to have him and therefore invests in developing him.
A lot of star players in the NBA -- Paul Pierce, Caron Butler and Rajon Rondo among them -- talk about how being snubbed in the draft was the best thing that happened because it turned them into underdogs and inspired them to work all-out to prove themselves. Say that Jennings winds up in Philadelphia at No. 17, as he might -- he'll be with an up-tempo team that suits his style, and the team will want to help him show the rest of the league that he was a steal so late in the draft.
It's funny how it works, but Jennings may have more fans rooting for him as a low pick than he would as a top-10 choice, because if he were to go high in the draft then he would be expected to play well immediately -- and very few players in this draft will meet that standard. -- Ian Thomsen


Perhaps this is why they want to get closer to #10.


Source: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/basketball/nba/06/25/draft.day.blog/index.html?bcnn=yes
 

Kingster

Hall of Famer
#58
JENNINGS SLIDING?: As the candidates woke to draft day, the player sliding out of the lottery appeared to be point guard Brandon Jennings, who bypassed his freshman year of college in order to spend last season with the Euroleague club Lottomatica Rome of Italy.
By my count, the only top-10 teams considering Jennings are the Knicks at No. 8 and the Bucks at No. 10, and Jennings is unlikely to go to either of them unless one or more trades change the order of the draft.
The smart move would be to take Jennings out of the green room, but Jennings and agent Bill Duffy had yet to meet as of Thursday morning. I'm sure Duffy will remind Jennings that the order of the draft is meaningless; what matters is that he joins a team that is happy to have him and therefore invests in developing him.
A lot of star players in the NBA -- Paul Pierce, Caron Butler and Rajon Rondo among them -- talk about how being snubbed in the draft was the best thing that happened because it turned them into underdogs and inspired them to work all-out to prove themselves. Say that Jennings winds up in Philadelphia at No. 17, as he might -- he'll be with an up-tempo team that suits his style, and the team will want to help him show the rest of the league that he was a steal so late in the draft.
It's funny how it works, but Jennings may have more fans rooting for him as a low pick than he would as a top-10 choice, because if he were to go high in the draft then he would be expected to play well immediately -- and very few players in this draft will meet that standard. -- Ian Thomsen


Perhaps this is why they want to get closer to #10.


Source: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/basketball/nba/06/25/draft.day.blog/index.html?bcnn=yes
Maybe. But it's probably more likely they have more than just one player they would be interested in. How about the group of Holiday, Teague, T. Williams, Jennings, Blair, Caspri?
 
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hrdboild

Moloch in whom I dream Angels!
Staff member
#60
I like the trade -- someone very good is still going to be available at 15. I don't know about 23, especially with Portland moving up to 22. I don't think Blair is the pick at 15, but I like the trade anyway. Maybe we go Evans with the fourth pick, who can play either guard position, and Jennings or Holiday are still there at 15.