[Game] Kings v. Celtics - Wednesday, March 6 - 7PT/10ET

[Tetsujin]

Why do i even get my hopes up?

Coach: “we got guys defending guys that are about 4 or 5 inches taller.”

Really? Do we? smh

Is he being forced to play small ball lineups against his will or something? (Considering our track record, this could be a distinct possibility)

 

[Kingz19]

Why do i even get my hopes up?

Coach: “we got guys defending guys that are about 4 or 5 inches taller.”

Really? Do we? smh

Maybe he made that lineup so he can blame it for losses while saying the more formidably sized guys aren’t ready

 

[NewArena]

This was a winnable game....I dont know what Joerger was doing sitting Giles....

He makes horrible decisions sometimes, period. I dare anyone to defend it

 

[SacTownKid]

The call play was to get Buddy the ball off of WCS but Tatum played good D. Then Barnes came from below as backup. Boston really covered well.

Then bad call. The C's just simply played under Willie and switched. Bjelica setting that screen means he can come off that screen and be a target for that pass. Letting Willie set a screen is completely defendable in that scenario since he won't become an option out that far. I re-watched it and Willie didn't even set a screen. I'm sure they didn't run that as drawn up but one of your best shooters not even being in the play but taking the ball out has happened before. I just don't get it. Maybe if there were more than 2 seconds but not there.

 

[Tetsujin]

I do feel like this team offense is not utilizing De'Aaron Fox speed and talents. Most of the time he is forced to create play for his teammates like Mike Conley did under Dave Joeger. But De'Aaron Fox is too explosive and too fast for him not to be attacking the basket most of the time. 50% of his game should be tailor toward attacking not not setting up guys. I feel like because he was told to pass first before scoring, his mentality is now switch. So even when he's on a fast break and have the ability to run by people, he's not doing it because his mentality changed.

Like if he and Bogi switched mindsets it would be ideal.

Bogi is currently dominating possessions like he's Wizards-era Jordan.

 

[kingsboi]

As strange as it sounds, the Kings probably win this if the Celtics play Irving.

Without Kyrie, their entire team was able to light us up.

let's see if you feel this way when Kyrie plays versus the Kings in Boston

 

[NewArena]

I do feel like this team offense is not utilizing De'Aaron Fox speed and talents. Most of the time he is forced to create play for his teammates like Mike Conley did under Dave Joeger. But De'Aaron Fox is too explosive and too fast for him not to be attacking the basket most of the time. 50% of his game should be tailor toward attacking not not setting up guys. I feel like because he was told to pass first before scoring, his mentality is now switch. So even when he's on a fast break and have the ability to run by people, he's not doing it because his mentality changed and that kind of suck because it helps out the other team because they don't have to deal with his explosiveness.

It just doesn’t make any sense. When did we become a freakin halfcourt team?? Can someone ask the coach this? The media is too easy on this guy just because he’s a nice guy

Screw that

 

[NME]

I have zero confidence in Joerger's game management. I don't see how we make it to the next level with him.

 

[Kings_of_California]

Our bench scored 13 points combined. Literally every single starter had more than that.

 

[Tetsujin]

let's see if you feel this way when Kyrie plays versus the Kings in Boston

I have seen the Celtics with Kyrie get blown up by teams far worse than the Kings. For whatever reason the Celtics seem to play better when Kyrie isn't there to dominate the ball.

 

[NewArena]

I’m just over it right now

Oh well

 

[luckytkp]

We

As strange as it sounds, the Kings probably win this if the Celtics play Irving.

Without Kyrie, their entire team was able to light us up.

We played against last year Boston tonight.

 

[kingsboi]

I have seen the Celtics with Kyrie get blown up by teams far worse than the Kings. For whatever reason the Celtics seem to play better when Kyrie isn't there to dominate the ball.

I get what you are saying and you are right, but it's the Kings and with that being etched in stone, you best believe Kyrie will light the Kings up and the Celtics win by 15

 

[Kingsfan23]

Why am I seeing complaints about Barnes?

Guy scored 24 on 8-14, 8 boards & 2 steals.

He was annoying me intermittently. But yeah that’s two games in a row he’s looking like that solid addition we thought we were getting

BOgi back on track too

 

[steelevt]

DJ: they got guys that are 3, 4, 5 inches taller and shooting over us.

That's why we call the lineup u put in "small ball" cuz they are smaller. U don't want them to take advantage of mismatches, put in a freaking full sized lineup. You know, the lineup that would build the lead or take back the lead after u consistently go back to small ball.

 

[Tetsujin]

We

We played against last year Boston tonight.

Pretty much. Tatum was rookie season efficient Tatum, Horford had a huge night, Morris was stretching the floor like crazy, and Smart was smashing dudes on defense.

 

[BaDgEraffe]

Willie should have been off the floor. I would have liked to see Giles inbound the ball. He has the height and court vision, plus he's a capable shooter.

 

[DesertFox]

Another tough loss, but this team will learn a lot. Sucks to hear now, but it will payoff in the long run.

 

[reptilexcq2]

I think King's season is done. Hopefully, they have the money to sign Vucevic in the summer and get rid of average low IQ player like Willie Cauley Stein. Restructure Harrison Barnes contract to increase the cap space to go after Vucevic.

 

[Tetsujin]

How the hell Bjeli wound up with more minutes than Willie or Giles is a mystery to me.

 

[The Effort Police]

Why do i even get my hopes up?

Coach: “we got guys defending guys that are about 4 or 5 inches taller.”

Really? Do we? smh

...

That could be avoided if YOU so chose it. Maybe start using your 6'8" SF as a SF and not your frail 6'5" 2 guard there like you've been doing.

 

[parker]

DJ: they got guys that are 3, 4, 5 inches taller and shooting over us.

That's why we call the lineup u put in "small ball" cuz they are smaller. U don't want them to take advantage of mismatches, put in a freaking full sized lineup. You know, the lineup that would build the lead or take back the lead after u consistently go back to small ball.

Without Bagley available who else do you put out there to end the game. Keep in mind, this group brought you back from 6 down.

Also, at the end it wasn't small ball. It was fox, Heild, Barnes, belly, and WCS.

 

[Tizzy Flip]

Just rewatched the last play. Celts defended that like they knew exactly what we were running. Tatum (who’s covering the inbounds) as soon as Bjelica gets the ball turns around and locates Buddy like he knew exactly where he was cutting to. Fox goes toward the baseline and Hayward leaves Hield to cover him, knowing Tatum had Hield. Meanwhile Willie is just standing in the middle with Rozier on him, essentially the Celts saying he’s not a threat we’ll even put our smallest guy on him.

That play is the difference between a really well coached team... vs one that is still growing and has holes in key positions.

 

[SacTownKid]

Is he being forced to play small ball lineups against his will or something? (Considering our track record, this could be a distinct possibility)

People, start looking at the bigger picture and the real issues here. You're being distracted by the shiny object. The small ball lineup on it's own hasn't been that negative. The Kings aren't going to win locking teams down regardless of who is out there. In fact, Barnes has turned this team into a more respectable team defensively. The question is why isn't he guarding Tatum more? Bogdan did defend him pretty well BTW. He didn't get treetopped like Grant thinks. His go to shot is the fadeaway. Good for him. The C's and any real contenders force you to play small. The issue is and will continue to be their inability to drive home the play that should be their bread and butter, the pick and roll. They lost this and almost any other game on offense in an earlier quarter. The Kings had another quarter of 17 points in this game. The Kings are the fastest paced team yet barely cling to the top 10 in PPG. Somewhere around 8 or 9 currently. That won't work over any length of time. They always repeat the same PACE stat at the start of these games. Great they play fast which is a great start over that travesty of last years play style, but they aren't nearly making as much of it as they should.

 

[Tetsujin]

Without Bagley available who else do you put out there to end the game. Keep in mind, this group brought you back from 6 down.

Also, at the end it wasn't small ball. It was fox, Heild, Barnes, belly, and WCS.

This was only the lineup because Bogi fouled out.

 

[NewArena]

How the hell Bjeli wound up with more minutes than Willie or Giles is a mystery to me.

No mystery to me. It’s Joerger

 

[Tizzy Flip]

Still trying to figure out what Buddy was doing letting Hayward drive freely down the lane. How about some resistance?

 

[parker]

This was only the lineup because Bogi fouled out.

True. But the Bogi lineup actually brought them back. Then a ticky tack foul and Bogi fouls out.

 

[burekijogurt]

Then bad call. The C's just simply played under Willie and switched. Bjelica setting that screen means he can come off that screen and be a target for that pass. Letting Willie set a screen is completely defendable in that scenario since he won't become an option out that far. I re-watched it and Willie didn't even set a screen. I'm sure they didn't run that as drawn up but one of your best shooters not even being in the play but taking the ball out has happened before. I just don't get it. Maybe if there were more than 2 seconds but not there.

I think they were trying to get someone bigger who can see over defenders to inbound. but yeah once the inbound to Buddy failed then it was a scramble.

 

[NewArena]

True. But the Bogi lineup actually brought them back. Then a ticky track foul and Bogi fouls out.

The calls tonight were embarrassing