Kings active in trade talks?
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Cava change their mind from week to week. 3 weeks ago waiters was all but gone. I think the coach has lost that team. Bynum prob just don't want to play with cavs
steelevt
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i think the cavs want to get rid of him but get something back. if they just put him on waivers they either lose him for nothing or have to pick up part of his salary. we would be doing them a favor by trading for him and giving them something. give them a sf in outlaw, a sg in mt (both of whom actually want to play), and we take this expensive headache off their hands. i also like trying to get back our pick we traded to them.
Cleveland would never do this.
They're on the hook for $6M of Bynum's salary this year, the other $6.25M (and next year's $12.5M) are unguaranteed. And because salary gets prorated through the season, they've basically paid about $4M of that salary already. This means they can flat out cut Bynum tomorrow for about $2M total cost. Why would they take on $22.5M (prorated to about $18.5M) AND give up a draft pick to save cutting a guy? They wouldn't. I mean, hey, I'd love to fleece Cleveland and then cut Bynum myself, but it's not going to happen.
If Cleveland doesn't get a trade offer they like (and I can't quite see why anybody would give them a good trade offer), they'll just cut him. I strongly believe that he will indeed be cut, and that he will pass untouched through waivers, and become a free agent, and then sign a small contract with a contender and play his cancer game in another locker room as he tries to ride some coattails to another championship in a sport that he doesn't even like that much.
bajaden
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bajaden
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There are people that are treating Bynum as a superstar, but in fact, he's very very far from being one. Set aside a couple of good seasons, seasons where he was surrounded by Gasol, Odom, and Kobe, he's been average at best. He's playing in his ninth season in the NBA, and through the first eight, he's played in a total of 392 games out of a possible 656 games, or an average of 49 games out of 82 per season. For his career he's averaged 11.5 PPG, 7.7 RPG, and 1.6 Blocks per game. He in fact, makes Cousins look like a superstar HOH player. If he's released, and he wants to come and play for the league minimum on a non guaranteed contract, he's welcome. Other than that, I wouldn't give you the powder to blow him to hell. He's nothing but a big lazy money eating slug that has bilked two teams out of a ton of money while doing nothing. Anyone that wants him has lost all sense of reason.
Oh, the rumor is by the way, and it is a rumor, that the reason he was suspended was that he was making a mockery out of practice, and it wasn't the first time. I think the Cav's just had enough of his crap.
Oh, the rumor is by the way, and it is a rumor, that the reason he was suspended was that he was making a mockery out of practice, and it wasn't the first time. I think the Cav's just had enough of his crap.
Practice? We talking practice?!?! Practice? Maybe he was doing his best Iverson imitation!
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KingMilz
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Waiters for Mclemore, Waiters can be the PG/SG off the bench and he can play defence and dribble a basketball while shooting a solid clip from 3.
TheBadGuy
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How bout McLemore & Thornton for Waiters & maybe Bennett?
. No seriously if Mclemore for Waiters, the Kings will have the same player in Waiters & Thornton so atleast unload Thornton.
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KingMilz
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Waiters is a exceptional ball handler/slasher who can play PG as well as a scoring PGHow bout McLemore & Thornton for Waiters & maybe Bennett?
jcwkings
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Wouldn't Waiters bring exactly what Tyreke brought? We don't really need that IT is the primary playmaker from the perimeter, and Gay has proven he can facilitate as well. We need a SG that will play defense and can shoot the 3. Afflalo would be my ideal pick, I have no clue if he is available and what it would cost to get him though. I would gladly part with McLemore for him though. Oladipo+ McLemore+ 2014 lottery pick might sound enticing for the Magic. We get the SG we need in his prime, they get a potential 20 ppg shooter that will be ready when they have all their pieces together
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This is a playoff team
IT
Afflalo
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Defensive PF/JT/Landry
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This is a playoff team
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
How bout McLemore & Thornton for Waiters & maybe Bennett?
No offense but why in the world would you want Bennett? We already have two better versions of him on our team in Gay and Williams.
TheBadGuy
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Afflalo is a scorer like Gay. SG that plays defense which is available is Shumpert.
TheBadGuy
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Can't think of someone else from the Cavs at the moment. Also watched Bennett during his run in the NCAA, he was kinda decent, maybe send him to the D-League first before inserting him into the line-up.
jcwkings
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Afflalo has been forced to be a big scorer on the Magic, even with the Nuggets he was considered a wing stopper that could spot up and slash, this was when he was playing with Carmelo, when Carmelo left he did become the 2nd or 3rd option on that team though, but he is a proven as a wing defender and shooter.
Afflalo is playing really well as basically a 1st option without forcing the issue. Combine that with his defensive reputation, and I feel somebody will throw $10+ million per at him this summer. Kings don't have that kind of money unless Thornton or Landry+Outlaw are going the other direction, which would require additional assets to balance the trade. Plus Oladipo still hasn't shown he can play point, so Orlando that already passed on Ben once, might not be eager to trade for him given the position duplication, and Mclemore would have to be the main asset from Kings side.
LPKingsFan
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Afflalo is under contract through 2015, with a player option for 2016.
Bricklayer
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Afflalo can function at a lot lower number of shots than he's currently getting, but of course once he does his deal becomes a lot less "good" than it is now again. Remember that before he blew up this season, that was widely considered a bad deal, and that on our team we have a slot basically calling for a 10-12ppg scorer.
Another thing about Afflalo, who BTW is a player that I also have tagged as a possible, was something raised by Orlando's announcers that I hadn't really even thought about. He's only 28. But he's already in his 11th season. I had completely forgotten he came in a snotnosed kid. So yeah, 28. But you have to wonder if its not a pretty old and worn 28. How many NBA players are still going strong 15 years in?
Another thing about Afflalo, who BTW is a player that I also have tagged as a possible, was something raised by Orlando's announcers that I hadn't really even thought about. He's only 28. But he's already in his 11th season. I had completely forgotten he came in a snotnosed kid. So yeah, 28. But you have to wonder if its not a pretty old and worn 28. How many NBA players are still going strong 15 years in?
you're thinkig of someone else.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/afflaar01.html
3 years of college, only 6 years in nba
Bricklayer
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Better. And more in line with my memories too. When I heard that, or thought I heard that, the other night, I was trying to remember him serving some long apprenticeship as a 12th man through his teen years deep on Denver's bench.
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I~true
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Any word on dumping Jimmer? I'd like to get a guy like a Sessions, or at the very least a guy like Nate Walters...the guy does not turn the ball over.
TheBadGuy
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Dude all players turn the ball over, even the great John Stockton.
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I~true
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Sorry, it's Wolters and he has a 3.5 to 1 to ratio.
bajaden
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Afflalo made his living as a defensive player. He's slowly evolved into an offensive player, and this year a very good one. But prior to that, he was known as a very good defensive player. So what you would be getting is a player that can play both ends of the court, which is why Orlando probably won't trade him.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Seven and eleven sound a lot alike, and he's in his seventh season. In fact, he's played in 455 NBA games, and if you go with the one thousand game mark, he still has a lot left in the tank.
Entity
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I brought this up in the Ben thread. How available is Danny Green? With Duncan aging and more offense needed they have put green on the bench with belinelli and ginobili in front of him at sg. He gets some time behind Leonard at SF. His min are on the decline every week. A lot of games in the last month with mins in the teens. San Antonio being the aging team they are and in need of some SF and PF depth. Could Green be had for Derek Williams?
He is the ultimate 3 and d. I would def put out the feelers.
He is the ultimate 3 and d. I would def put out the feelers.
Uncia03
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Yeah I saw you mention Green in the other thread and to be honest, he's the type of guy that you would want if the FO felt that they were going to roll with IT/Gay/Cousins for the long-haul.
So, if we could swap one of our pieces which is getting stiffled via our new Trio to bring in Green it would be something that I'd consider.
OKC beat writer feels that Sefolosha may be expendable with the emergence of Lamb and Roberson taking the defensive role behind him. OKC always watches their cap room and Sef is a FA at the end of the year and the team may move him at the Feb 20 deadline. Sefolosha would be nice to have....I'd make him a high priority. Just don't know what it would take or really what they would want from us.
Hadlowe
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Danny Green, like many roleplayers, may be a hothouse flower that dies outside of a championship contending team roster. He is a guy who thrives as a shooter in San Antonio's motion offense off of the attention that Duncan, Ginobli, and Parker draw on defense. Defensively, he is a good player, which may be enough to recommend him. Offensively, he has no more dribble-drive game than McLemore on offense. We're also still pretty bad at setting up weakside screens to free up shooters at the wing or top of the key.
Entity
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I am not one bit concerend about his shooting. Defense is job number 1 and if he can hit a shot from time to time thats just a bonus and he is +40% shooter. Also Gay and Cousins get at much attention as Duncan and Parker. I'd be willing to say IT gets a fair amount of attention when he has the ball as well. In closing I believe Danny Green would work out nicely for us.
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