[Game] Game 43: OH DEAR GOD MAKE IT STOP!!!!! 7:30 PST, 10:30 EST

[kingsboi]

Warriors missing lots of easy looks....helping the Kings stick around. Don't expect to see that in the second half here and I'm not sure what prompted them all of a sudden to start playing harder...if you can't come out and play like that from the get go against the top Western Conference team record wise, then I question their motives here.

 

[VF21]

Do you see how much the Warriors struggle when they have to play at a slower pace? We have to make them play our game

Do we have a game?

 

[Tetsujin]

Do we have a game?

We did.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Green and Barnes combined for, like, eight points before Williams was subbed out; I checked the play-by-play. So, you're telling me that Williams wasn't guarding either one of them?

Not at the time that they scored, no. Williams was guarding Green almost exclusively, but Green's three was on a switch.

 

[VF21]

Deuce Mason ‏@DeuceMason 2m2 minutes ago
Kings down by 5 but it feels like 20. Can't give the Warriors so many open looks from three-point land.

 

[Sac.Kings]

It would NOT be fine with me but I would understand. And that just makes me more angry at what inexperience has done to our Kings.

Not just inexperience, but an attitude to change the way the NBA is played without any regard to anyone's feelings (especially your star player) and how it would alter team chemistry/dynamic. An utter refusal to follow traditional and proven steps in order to attempt to implement something so ridiculous we were laughed at before we even tried it.

It isn't just inexperience. We have GM who has been in the business long enough to understand things, but doesn't have the balls to say no to the owner and cowers in the corner. What we have is an egotistical owner who thinks he has an idea that will revolutionize basketball, when in fact it will send us even further down the pipe known as sucking hard. Even when presented with evidence of this, he refuses to acknowledge the deficits and has been as vocal as a mute individual in recent weeks (coincidence? I think not). In fact, the Malone firing will be exhibit A when Cousins leaves. At this point, I see no reason why Rudy and Cousins would waste their prime here, when everything other than the product on the court seems more important.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Similar mostly below the rim big men. Both centers with of course, JT mostly at PF. LaSalle was better player overall IMO - saw him play many games at ARCO 1 and ARCO II. Also LT never spent half the game shaking his head in stupid frustration, never whined constantly to officials and in general never for a second looked weak and hopeless like silly JT.

Yeah, we get it, you don't like Thompson... At least you finally stopped crying when he doesn't win the tip.

 

[dude12]

Contender better? Why'd they get rid of him for essentially nothing?

He's been traded twice in his career for junk players that should tell you something. Up until a couple months ago I liked the Rudy trade and it's a trade that still was worth it considering what they gave up.....but the more I watch Rudy the more I see that he is a player that hinders winning.

PS: Did I not mention to not be surprised if they play better once he left the game? Close game at half......

Yeah, Gay being out has caused GS to start missing those wide open shots.....lol

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Boogie inexplicably played the entire half.

Actually, he didn't. Grant was wrong. Cousins sat for what I thought was about 2-3 minutes when JT came in to sub at C. The boxscore says he only sat 1 minute, but that might have been like 1:59 or something.

 

[Sac.Kings]

I didn't even realize we were 16-26. Wow. Gotta love NBA 3.0.... Maybe the 3.0 stands for the number of decades until we are good again

 

[Chubbs]

With or without Rudy, Memphis was/is still a playoff team.

Not when he got there. They were a lottery team.

 

[Bricklayer]

Boogie inexplicably played the entire half.

Not inexplicably. Necessarily. And I think at his own behest.

This is precisely the sort of hero/leader stuff that can get the attention of both your team and All Star voters. He refused to let us go away, and so here we are. That doesn't mean we are going to win BTW. But he has made an actual game break out by not taking the easy way out.

 

[Tetsujin]

Actually, he didn't. Grant was wrong. Cousins sat for what I thought was about 2-3 minutes when JT came in to sub at C. The boxscore says he only sat 1 minute, but that might have been like 1:59 or something.

Official box score says he played 22:54 which is probably the only reason we're not down by twenty-five.

 

[PurpleHaze]

Boogie inexplicably played the entire half.

I like it, Boogie likes it, Kings like it, who doesn't like it? He's still young pup (I mean big bad Boogie Monster) - so he can handle it - even 48 minutes! Heck Wilt averaged something like 45 mins/night for his entire career.

 

[Swaze]

Let's not pretend that Memphis was a lottery team while Gay was there. They may have gotten better after he left, but they were still a playoff team while he was there. All evidence points to Toronto being the aberration.

They weren't a lottery team but they were a fringe playoff team. You and Rainmaker can make all the excuses that you want but the fact remains that two teams traded away Rudy Gay when he was their #1 player and both teams became much better after they traded him. That's not an aberration but rather a similar correlation.

Teams don't just trade their best player for junk and suddenly get better unless that player has some real leadership flaws and lack of intangibles.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Not at the time that they scored, no. Williams was guarding Green almost exclusively, but Green's three was on a switch.

In that case, I would still say that Miller was more effective at PF, simply because any shots that Draymond Green takes are shots that Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson aren't taking.

 

[sdballer]

They weren't a lottery team but they were a fringe playoff team. You and Rainmaker can make all the excuses that you want but the fact remains that two teams traded away Rudy Gay when he was their #1 player and both teams became much better after they traded him. That's not an aberration but rather a similar correlation.

Teams don't just trade their best player for junk and suddenly get better unless that player has some real leadership flaws and lack of intangibles.

What are you talking about? First, they weren't a fringe playoff team with him and second he was one of their best players but it's not like it was Rudy and no one else.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

They weren't a lottery team but they were a fringe playoff team.

How close to the fringe were they before he got there?

 

[rainmaker]

I didn't even realize we were 16-26. Wow. Gotta love NBA 3.0.... Maybe the 3.0 stands for the number of decades until we are good again

NBA 3.0 is hanging upside down from your ceiling and looking at the standings backwards through google glass.

Then, we're doing a pretty bang-up job.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

Heck Wilt averaged something like 45 mins/night for his entire career.

But was Wilt playing with NBA 3.Pace?

 

[kennadog]

I like it, Boogie likes it, Kings like it, who doesn't like it? He's still young pup (I mean big bad Boogie Monster) - so he can handle it - even 48 minutes! Heck Wilt averaged something like 45 mins/night for his entire career.

Maybe he's finally feeling better. Early last week he said he was still fatigued all the time out there, since his illness.

 

[rainmaker]

They weren't a lottery team but they were a fringe playoff team. You and Rainmaker can make all the excuses that you want but the fact remains that two teams traded away Rudy Gay when he was their #1 player and both teams became much better after they traded him. That's not an aberration but rather a similar correlation.

No, fact remains that I(can't speak for Slim) am not going to sit here and debate Rudy's career in Tor and Mem and explain all the factors going into both situations vs his situation here, right in the middle of a Kings game.

If you're on some witch hunt with Rudy, good for you. I'm not wasting my time on this **** in the middle of a game though.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

Ailene Voisin @ailene_voisin · 16m16 minutes ago
Frustration level reaching boiling point. Omri Casspi pulled from game , gestures and speaks angrily - while seated - to asst Micah Nori.

 

[Swaze]

How close to the fringe were they before he got there?

They didn't become a playoff team until Zach Randolph got there. Their best season before Randolph got there Memphis was 40-42 with Rudy as the #1 player. Once Randolph got there they were 46-36 and once Marc Gasol got there then they got even better.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Well, I'll be damned.

 

[theclash4u5]

3 fouls on Cuz

 

[Swaze]

No, fact remains that I(can't speak for Slim) am not going to sit here and debate Rudy's career in Tor and Mem and explain all the factors going into both situations vs his situation here, right in the middle of a Kings game.

If you're on some witch hunt with Rudy, good for you. I'm not wasting my time on this **** in the middle of a game though.

Well why would you when you have nothing but opinion and excuses to back up your argument. Funny you are all about debates when you can throw out numbers but when they're not there suddenly you don't have time for this.......

 

[dude12]

Ailene Voisin @ailene_voisin · 16m16 minutes ago
Frustration level reaching boiling point. Omri Casspi pulled from game , gestures and speaks angrily - while seated - to asst Micah Nori.

Can't say I blame Casspi.....has played well but lost PT to DWill and now Q Miller.

 

[theclash4u5]

4 on 1 and we turn it over.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

They didn't become a playoff team until Zach Randolph got there. Their best season before Randolph got there Memphis was 40-42 with Rudy as the #1 player. Once Randolph got there they were 46-36 and once Marc Gasol got there then they got even better.

Gasol was there before Randolph.