Draft position thread

Huge wosses for #1 and #2, and an epic lin for us!
This calls for a quick update.

1. OKC 9-34 .209
2./3. Was/LAC 9-32 .220
4. Sac 10-33 .233
5. Mem 11-30 .268
6. GSW 13-30 .302

With any luck at all, we will be in the top 2 by the end of the month.

our % for more lotto balls are going up :) YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS- go kings!!
 
Since I posted an optimistic forecast, I figured I'd better back it up with reasoning. So here are the schedules for the major draft-contending teams through the end of the month.

1. OKC: LAC, NJN, Memphis, Utah. Guess: between 1-3 and 2-2, assuming 1.5-2.5.
2. LAC: OKC, GSW, Portland, Chicago, Cleveland, Washington. Guess: between 0-6 and 3-3, assuming 1-5.
3. Was: LAL, Portland, Phoenix, Miami, Philly, LAC. Guess: 0-6 or 1-5, assuming 0.5-5.5.
4. Sac: Milwaukee, Toronto, Cleveland, Boston, Chicago. Guess: between 0-5 and 1-4, assuming 0.5-4.5.

If it comes out as it looks like it should, Washington will end the month as the #1 draft contender, with us right on their heels in the #2 spot.
 
Since I posted an optimistic forecast, I figured I'd better back it up with reasoning. So here are the schedules for the major draft-contending teams through the end of the month.

1. OKC: LAC, NJN, Memphis, Utah. Guess: between 1-3 and 2-2, assuming 1.5-2.5.
2. LAC: OKC, GSW, Portland, Chicago, Cleveland, Washington. Guess: between 0-6 and 3-3, assuming 1-5.
3. Was: LAL, Portland, Phoenix, Miami, Philly, LAC. Guess: 0-6 or 1-5, assuming 0.5-5.5.
4. Sac: Milwaukee, Toronto, Cleveland, Boston, Chicago. Guess: between 0-5 and 1-4, assuming 0.5-4.5.

If it comes out as it looks like it should, Washington will end the month as the #1 draft contender, with us right on their heels in the #2 spot.


Yes, was a huge Lin for us last night. If we get the Top pick, we'll need to buy Brad Miller a bottle of champaign as a thank you. He really came through for us last night as some of our more competitive players did everything the could to bring home a Woss.
 
Great night so far! Memphis unfortunately pulled out a solid lin over the Knicks, but...

1. Charlotte beat Phoenix
2. Indiana beat Houston
3. Minnesota beat New Orleans
4. Toronto's got a 7-point lead on Chicago at the beginning of the 4th
5. LAC vs OKC is just starting, and one of them is going to have a major woss.

Lots of teams headed for mediocrity tonight!

Will update with new rankings after the LAC-OKC crapfest ends.
 
Thornton (34 pts) and Gordon (41 pts) were total beasts, as the Clippers wost to OKC in the 4th quarter of what had been a close game, despite being severely outrebounded by the Thunder. (Kudos to Durant, who was a complete monster - 46 pts and 15 reb - but couldn't carry his team alone.) Which is good, because I think that OKC is on the upswing, while the Clippers wosses seem to be few and far between... we need them to wose every game they can. And, as an immediate bonus we are now #3.

Yeah, I said #3!

1. OKC 9-35 .205
2. Was 9-33 .214
3. Sac 10-33 .233
4. LAC 10-32 .238
5. Mem 11-31 .262
6. GSW 13-30 .302
7. Min 14-27 .341
 
Golden State damn near escaped our near orbit tonight too. Be nice if thta was a sign of things to come with Ellis in the lineup.
 
I would've prefered to see OKC wose tonight instead of the Clippers. The Clippers suck, but only because of injuries. When any 2 of Camby, Kaman, Randolph and Davis come back they'll be a decent team again.

Memphis is worrying me a bit. Hopefully this is just a rough patch for them and they can start winning a few again
 
Can we acquire two top 10 picks or is that going to be difficult to pull off? Derozan is going 2 so i would like the 2 and the 10 pick if possible.
 
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A thought occurred to me when I was looking at who was drafting where, and how many picks each team had. Oklahoma has three picks in the first round. They're probably counting on getting the first pick in the draft. But what if we were to sneak in there. I would think that Griffin would be their first choice, especially since he's from Oklahoma.

Why not trade first round picks with them and also recieve one of their other first round picks. It would give us three first round picks and a high second. Hey, if they love Griffin enough, maybe we could get them to switch seconds with us as well.
 
A thought occurred to me when I was looking at who was drafting where, and how many picks each team had. Oklahoma has three picks in the first round. They're probably counting on getting the first pick in the draft. But what if we were to sneak in there. I would think that Griffin would be their first choice, especially since he's from Oklahoma.

Why not trade first round picks with them and also recieve one of their other first round picks. It would give us three first round picks and a high second. Hey, if they love Griffin enough, maybe we could get them to switch seconds with us as well.


That's the sort of thing that can be done, but probbaly only if one of their other picks is late. If we get lucky though definitely something I would have on my table. In a Shaq/LeBron year, getting the #1 pick saves your franchise all by itself. In a year like this, it might still, but you have to get a little clever to make the most of it.

Be a real test though -- as far as I know in his 13/14 years as Sacramento GM Geoff Petrie has NEVER traded for a draft pick on draft day and gives all the impression of hating the draft and just wanting to make his pick and go home. This is a year that calls for a different attitude. Have no idea if we'll see it or not.
 
if we go point guard with our first pick, what do you guys think of drafting craig brackins out of Iowa state with our Houston pick?
 
That's the sort of thing that can be done, but probbaly only if one of their other picks is late. If we get lucky though definitely something I would have on my table. In a Shaq/LeBron year, getting the #1 pick saves your franchise all by itself. In a year like this, it might still, but you have to get a little clever to make the most of it.

Be a real test though -- as far as I know in his 13/14 years as Sacramento GM Geoff Petrie has NEVER traded for a draft pick on draft day and gives all the impression of hating the draft and just wanting to make his pick and go home. This is a year that calls for a different attitude. Have no idea if we'll see it or not.

Well, theres a firs time for everything I suspose. Both of their other picks are low first round, but you can still get good players there. The more picks in the first round, the better your chance of getting one thats really going to help.

Of course we would have proved that theory completely wrong, if not for Simmons being the only one of four that panned out.
 
ehh, THIS draft is too weak to stockpile draft picks, I rather have 1 overall then like 4 overall and two picks later ..


Why? In a weak draft, you have a significantly higher chance of landing a good/great player with multiple picks than just one... In fact, that's the case in all drafts! Actually refusing more draft picks during the rebuilding phase is nothing short of downright sillyness.
 
Why? In a weak draft, you have a significantly higher chance of landing a good/great player with multiple picks than just one... In fact, that's the case in all drafts! Actually refusing more draft picks during the rebuilding phase is nothing short of downright sillyness.


Well, I disagree ... At the starting stages of a rebuild, draft picks are awesome .. however, we already have a bunch of young players that arent getting minutes .. we have 4 spots pretty locked up actually .. hawes at center, thompson at pf, greene at SF and martin at SG .. we really just need to draft a promising young point ( rubio ) and then do what we gotta do.. see if they develope, possibly trade them or whatever.

I would rather have a bunch of picks in a strong draft .. I think thats pretty obvious.
 
if we go point guard with our first pick, what do you guys think of drafting craig brackins out of Iowa state with our Houston pick?

Actually, just got done watching Iowa st vs Kansas this morning, and that same thought crossed my mind. Idk though, he seemed to disappear late in the game when it really mattered. However, late in the draft might not be that bad of an idea.

I believe his final numbers today were 38/13?? Something along those lines. ESPN said one of the best Big 12 games of the year.

But, he's 6'10. Not a pg.
 
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Actually, just got done watching Iowa st vs Kansas this morning, and that same thought crossed my mind. Idk though, he seemed to disappear late in the game when it really mattered. However, late in the draft might not be that bad of an idea.

I believe his final numbers today were 38/13?? Something along those lines. ESPN said one of the best Big 12 games of the year.

But, he's 6'10. Not a pg
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He said if we go PG with our pick, what about this guy with Houston's pick.

I don't know him but that's an interesting stat line. Maybe he's worth a look?
 
I would've prefered to see OKC wose tonight instead of the Clippers. The Clippers suck, but only because of injuries. When any 2 of Camby, Kaman, Randolph and Davis come back they'll be a decent team again.

Anybody know when those guys are coming back? The sooner the better.
 
Anybody know when those guys are coming back? The sooner the better.

I'm assuming after the All-star break, because I've heard a while ago that it'll be a couple of weeks. If they aren't back by then then I can only assume they've given up on the season
 
Golden State damn near escaped our near orbit tonight too. Be nice if thta was a sign of things to come with Ellis in the lineup.

Yeah, I was really hoping they'd win that one. And it was soooo close.

Not tonight, though. Tonight they're playing the Clippers, and we need an LAC woss more than we need GS's.

Go Clippers!
 
Go Clippers!! lol. Golden State's color commentator just said "If you're the warriors, you can't play down to LA's 10-32 record."

:D

LOL. LOL. LOL. Like the Warriors are so much more better!!
 
I don't care who wins today's game becasue if Baron,Randolf, and Camby come back, then Clippers will be much better than Kings, and GS is already better than Kings after Monta came back to line up.
 
Alas, the Clippers pulled out a lin. But Minnesota and Golden State wost, giving us few left at the very top some extra breathing room.

Today I'll give you the complete lottery set just so you can see how thoroughly we've beaten many worthy teams... only the very elite can lin like us.

1. OKC 9-35 .205
2. Was 9-34 .209
3. Sac 10-35 .222
4. LAC 10-33 .233
5. Mem 11-32 .256
6. GSW 14-31 .311
7. Min 15-27 .357
8. Ind 17-27 .386
9. Tor 18-28 .391
10. Chi 18-27 .400
11. Cha 18-26 .409
12. NY 18-25 .419
13. NJN 20-24 .455
14. Uta 25-20 .556

P.S. - Only 4 times in franchise history have we even approached this level (.222), every other year we've wost over 30% of our games. The previous highs were:
1959-60: .253 (19-56)
1958-59: .264 (19-53)
1989-90: .280 (23-59)
1987-88: .293 (24-58)


Even though they didn't play as many games per season in the 1950s, we may yet have fewer wosses then them, being on track for a scant 18. If you haven't appreciated the magnitude of this year's accomplishment, ponder that... this season is working out to be the linningest in franchise history by over 3%. We truly DO deserve the #1 lottery pick.
 
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As I write this, OKC has a 28 point lead on NJN as the 3rd quarter is about to end.

Assuming that OKC manages to close out this game, as I'm sure they will, that means that OKC will, in half an hour or so, have a 10-35 record just like us. And tomorrow, we will lin over the Cavs and break the tie, leaving us right on Washington's (9-35) heels. And that's without even having our lin over the Celtics yet.

Welcome to #2.
 
OKC is actually playing good basketball lately..I can even see them being better than the kings,so the major threat to that number 1 spot is only the clips...Wiz will win some and be a little competitive so i see it as us battling it with the clips for the number 1 spot (not the power rankings though)
 
damn this team sucks.... we might not win anymore games this season at this rate...
 
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