Any news about Peja's injury?

bayoucity said:
We need you back. Pleeeease.
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Heh.

If I'm not playing anymore, in my prime, what does that tell you about how good I was? :D
 
piksi said:
If You take him back we will throw in a second round pick too.
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That was pretty funny. Would even be funnier if you didn't mean it. :rolleyes:
 
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Gary said:
Take a pic of that Alabama ring, and put Kingsfans.com rules next to it on paper.

I am very interested in this.
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Like - "KingsFans RULES" ... alright.
 
piksi said:
You do know me too well
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Gary said:
Take a pic of that Alabama ring, and put Kingsfans.com rules next to it on paper.
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Here you go, two fo the rings:

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Hey wait a minute....I played highschool football ...Just like my idol Al Bundy....All I can say is "LET'S ROCK!!!"
But seriously foks. Peja comes from a completely different part of the world with a different set of rules. Juat because he can't play with an injury which you may think of as minor, doesn't mean he's a wuss. If it hurts it hurts. Some folks can't take the pain the same as others. If he had what it took to play football (american) then that's probably what he would be doing.
If some of you are as tough as you say you are then why the heck aren't you out there playing pro basketball? Or for that matter why didn't you make it past college? Hmmmm
 
KingDog said:
If some of you are as tough as you say you are then why the heck aren't you out there playing pro basketball? Or for that matter why didn't you make it past college? Hmmmm
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Uh, its called lack of talent. Make me 6'9" and give me Peja's shot and I would be in the league too as a Peja with balls. Unfortunately, not how it works.

There is no comparison -- I am far tougher than Peja Stojakovic, as I supect are a number of board members. On toughness Peja isn't even above average for the general population, let alone professional athletes. And its got nothing to do with "different values" UNLESS those different values are its ok to be a wuss. Which they may be, I do not opine.

In any case, it would not have mattered tonight. Bowen has had his number forever with or without injury. Just going out there with an injured finger just to play would have only made it worse. We were very likely to lose anyway, why risk hurting it?
 
Bricklayer said:
Think somenone mentioned this earlier, but a most unfortunte title for an article when you're a guy fighting the "soft" label -- think I'd sue: :p
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I thought that myself.

That title makes him look like an even bigger woos than he is :p
 
Pain is not the reason he did not play yesterday. I know that is the common conception but read the recap of the game Sunday. It was mentioned that his whole hand is swollen and lost some feeling in it. Now tell me how hard would it be for a player to play with a swollen shooting hand?
 
I don't know how his whole hand would swell up from a sprain in his pinky. At most it would just be the pinky side of his hand. If his whole hand had swelled up, I would assume the MRI would pick up a strain, bruise, or sprain in the multiple finger/palm/wrist ligaments to cause that. The writer wasn't giving a medical opinion. The writer obviously regurgitated what Peja said, that he couldn't feel his whole hand because of a minor sprain in his pinky. I seriously doubt that. Peja just couldn't feel enough of his hand to feel comfortable shooting. I wouldn't want him to go out there if that's the case. But many other players had much worse happen to their hand and played fine. I've played a tennis match with my middle finger sprained and I could feel the swelling down to below my joint and a bit into the palm. Started off hurting like a ***** and couldn't feel it by end of the game. Guys like Sura and Iverson played with broken fingers, so they were even worse off.

I'm not saying Peja should have played. If that was all it took to shake him out of "game shape", then by all means, sit out. But he's still a wuss, which was the point.
 
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I don't know how his whole hand would swell up from a sprain in his pinky. At most it would just be the pinky side of his hand. If his whole hand had swelled up, I would assume the MRI would pick up a strain, bruise, or sprain in the multiple finger/palm/wrist ligaments to cause that. The writer wasn't giving a medical opinion. The writer obviously regurgitated what Peja said, that he couldn't feel his whole hand because of a minor sprain in his pinky. I seriously doubt that. Peja just couldn't feel enough of his hand to feel comfortable shooting. I wouldn't want him to go out there if that's the case. But many other players had much worse happen to their hand and played fine. I've played a tennis match with my middle finger sprained and I could feel the swelling down to below my joint and a bit into the palm. Started off hurting like a ***** and couldn't feel it by end of the game. Guys like Sura and Iverson played with broken fingers, so they were even worse off.

I'm not saying Peja should have played. If that was all it took to shake him out of "game shape", then by all means, sit out. But he's still a wuss, which was the point.
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I was just going by what Pedja said about his hand. I would give him the benifit of doubt
"I couldn't feel my hand at that point," Stojakovic said of Fortson's slap, while holding a candy bar in his wrapped and swollen right hand.

"I wasn't able to shoot. I wasn't able to feel the ball."
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I dont know if you guys remember but Kobe just injured his fingers like a week ago. He was doing horrible and couldnt even buy a bucket. So it is pretty serious if your the coach cause you dont want your star to take shots and miss. Im pretty sure Peja is not faking this cause he is in his contract year and wants to do everything to earn his top dollars next year.
 
Some of you are being pretty unfair to Peja, so I can only assume it's because you don't know his history...

When Peja was still playing in Europe, he injured his leg. He was told it wasn't anything serious, he was pumped full of pain meds, and he continued to play - until his BROKEN leg was so bad it was pretty much hanging there like an overcooked noodle. It took a long time for him to recover; in fact, when he first came to the Kings, Geoff Petrie saw to it that Peja made all his doctor's appointments, rehab, etc.

Now, I can pretty much guess that Peja is adverse to taking pain meds and I don't blame him. He knows all too well what can happen and if he's a little gun shy, I'm not going to blame him at all.

Before you throw the wuss label around quite so freely, I'd like to see you play through what he did once upon a time...
 
VF21 said:
Some of you are being pretty unfair to Peja, so I can only assume it's because you don't know his history...

When Peja was still playing in Europe, he injured his leg. He was told it wasn't anything serious, he was pumped full of pain meds, and he continued to play - until his BROKEN leg was so bad it was pretty much hanging there like an overcooked noodle. It took a long time for him to recover; in fact, when he first came to the Kings, Geoff Petrie saw to it that Peja made all his doctor's appointments, rehab, etc.

Now, I can pretty much guess that Peja is adverse to taking pain meds and I don't blame him. He knows all too well what can happen and if he's a little gun shy, I'm not going to blame him at all.

Before you throw the wuss label around quite so freely, I'd like to see you play through what he did once upon a time...
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OMG, a Peja's not soft story, from VF21? alright, wheres the real VF21?
 
I didn't say he's not soft.

What I said was it's not really fair for people to act as though he's a wuss for not taking the shots and "playing through the pain."
 
VF21 said:
I didn't say he's not soft.

What I said was it's not really fair for people to act as though he's a wuss for not taking the shots and "playing through the pain."
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I do think what happening in Europe did effect his game and how he deals with injuries now. He is more cautious and is a weee bit ;) on the marshmellow side of softness
 
VF21 said:
Some of you are being pretty unfair to Peja, so I can only assume it's because you don't know his history...

When Peja was still playing in Europe, he injured his leg. He was told it wasn't anything serious, he was pumped full of pain meds, and he continued to play - until his BROKEN leg was so bad it was pretty much hanging there like an overcooked noodle. It took a long time for him to recover; in fact, when he first came to the Kings, Geoff Petrie saw to it that Peja made all his doctor's appointments, rehab, etc.

Now, I can pretty much guess that Peja is adverse to taking pain meds and I don't blame him. He knows all too well what can happen and if he's a little gun shy, I'm not going to blame him at all.

Before you throw the wuss label around quite so freely, I'd like to see you play through what he did once upon a time...
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Thank you.
 
Here is a snippet from '97 when Peja broke his leg:

9/ 3/97 WELL, HERE IT IS
It is found that Stojakovic did not break only his fibula
(Greek: peroni) but BOTH the leg bones below the knee (Greek:
knimi and peroni), and the break was a "complete" one (crushing
/sintriptiko). Stojakovic undergoes a 3 hour successful
surgery and he is expected to be back, completely healthy, in
about 4 months, just in time for the pre-season training.
This is a great pity for the young player, who is certainly the
best European player playing currently in Europe. But having
twice broken his leg (granted at different locations) at this
young age is not a good sign for his future. Because it is not
only talent that a player needs for a long and fruitful career.
Whether he came back too early after the strain he suffered on
January 22nd, and this contributed to his injury, I don't know
but I certainly hope not, but PAOK's medical team said that he
was completely healed, and the injuries were completely
unrelated. He was injured while pivoting in (or close to) the
paint in the game against Peristeri, in Peristeri, and while
being guarded by Gurovic.

http://web.mit.edu/eavgoust/WWW/PAOK/1996-1997/1996-1997.html
 
I think most are aware of that ancient injury at this point, but I do SO get tied of it being thrown out as some sort of half-assed excuse for why Peja is a wuss today, or worse yet saying its perfectly understandable that he's a wuss because he actually showed once he was a macho macho man and it backfired so lifelong wussdom is the 100% reasonable and logical response. :rolleyes: At BEST it means that he was basically traumatized into being a wuss -- that having tasted pain once he wouold forever wimp out afterward. At worst its irrelevant as a young player who was either tricked or the victim of rampant doctor incompetence but would still NEVER have gone out on the court if he knew the truth or how bad it would hurt.

Either way Peja is quite obviously AT THIS POINT, HERE TODAY, well on the wussy side of things and as adverse to pain as a gradeschooler. Moreso perhaps. He's the guy who faints in the delivery room.

Bringing up ancient history is akin to saying Brad can jump because he used to be a high jumper in high school, that Mike can defend because he used to lock down kids on the playground in junior high, or that Webb is in fact durable because he didn't have a major injury until 1995. Historical footnotes even if true. Not helpful at all at this point to us unless we can convince Peja to go into wuss-therapy to sort out the root sources of his extreme pain aversion.
 
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