Any news about Peja's injury?
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Peja got 3 big rebounds that saved offensive possessions from the Sonics that would of pushed their lead further. Rashard Lewis only scored 3 pts after half-time. Unfortunate that Peja's finger got harmed more, I was looking foward to him having a great night.
Hopefully he can play tonight. If not, Corliss will play.
Hopefully he can play tonight. If not, Corliss will play.
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Because Wells is playing out of the system.
It's nice to see him grab rebounds, but it is at the cost of continuity. On offense, he drops into the lane and sits there. Thus clogging the lane for Brad and Reef to drive when they have it at the top of the key. I've seen him take post position away, so he can be "in position" for a rebound.
On defense, he's out of position on his man most of the game. He's starting to become a worse defensive presence than Mike Bibby. His man might not lead the team in scoring, but the team has to rotate off their man to cover his. This is mainly due to Bonzi switching on EVERY player. (this might be a product of the defensive system)
Finally, the main reason I'll bash on Bonzi is because out of EVERYONE on the team - he should be the one sacrificing his game and glory the most. In truth, I see him doing it the least. That bothers me. Bonzi is the least talented of our entire starting unit ... but he's getting the touches that indicate otherwise.
It's nice to see him grab rebounds, but it is at the cost of continuity. On offense, he drops into the lane and sits there. Thus clogging the lane for Brad and Reef to drive when they have it at the top of the key. I've seen him take post position away, so he can be "in position" for a rebound.
On defense, he's out of position on his man most of the game. He's starting to become a worse defensive presence than Mike Bibby. His man might not lead the team in scoring, but the team has to rotate off their man to cover his. This is mainly due to Bonzi switching on EVERY player. (this might be a product of the defensive system)
Finally, the main reason I'll bash on Bonzi is because out of EVERYONE on the team - he should be the one sacrificing his game and glory the most. In truth, I see him doing it the least. That bothers me. Bonzi is the least talented of our entire starting unit ... but he's getting the touches that indicate otherwise.
Only in Pejaland do you see that statement made. 
Grrr! Don't make me mad or I'll grab a 4th!
While I like the idea of Corliss as a guy who can maybe turn the tables on Bowen with superior strength and an offensive style Bowen isn't used to guarding, our spacing with all three of our post guys out there at once would be a real problem. Given Bowen's lack of offense maybe we could get away with KT? Could really help us vs. the Spurs inside power to have an extra PF out there.
Grrr! Don't make me mad or I'll grab a 4th! While I like the idea of Corliss as a guy who can maybe turn the tables on Bowen with superior strength and an offensive style Bowen isn't used to guarding, our spacing with all three of our post guys out there at once would be a real problem. Given Bowen's lack of offense maybe we could get away with KT? Could really help us vs. the Spurs inside power to have an extra PF out there.
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There is no question ... Reef and Miller have not done their job on the glass.
Although - in Reef's defense - he's in position to grab a lot of boards, but for some reason he is letting the guards come in and get the board. It's really obnoxious to watch.
He's boxing someone out and when the rebound comes down he remains firmly boxing his man out rather than getting the board. Which is where Bonzi is getting a lot of rebounds from.
But, as a PF you have to get the rebound. That's just obnoxious play from Reef. It mirrors his "I'm John Stockton" attitude on the other end of the court and refusing to take charge and score.
Although - in Reef's defense - he's in position to grab a lot of boards, but for some reason he is letting the guards come in and get the board. It's really obnoxious to watch.
He's boxing someone out and when the rebound comes down he remains firmly boxing his man out rather than getting the board. Which is where Bonzi is getting a lot of rebounds from.
But, as a PF you have to get the rebound. That's just obnoxious play from Reef. It mirrors his "I'm John Stockton" attitude on the other end of the court and refusing to take charge and score.
In all seriousness, I would NOT want Peja to play today.
It's early in the season. Right now, the injury is being described as a sprain. It is likely we are/were going to lose this game anyway. I would much rather hold Peja out and let his finger mend than put him out there and have something more serious happen that could keep him out for an extended period of time.
It's early in the season. Right now, the injury is being described as a sprain. It is likely we are/were going to lose this game anyway. I would much rather hold Peja out and let his finger mend than put him out there and have something more serious happen that could keep him out for an extended period of time.
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Why would I lie? What do I gain?
I mean, seriously. Not everybody lives the mundane life. There are a bunch of guys that play ball.
I can get our media day guide out ... but at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter what you accept or believe, does it?
If I wanted/needed to lie to lend credence to my argument, shouldn't I have gone the route of basketball?
I mean, seriously. Not everybody lives the mundane life. There are a bunch of guys that play ball.
I can get our media day guide out ... but at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter what you accept or believe, does it?
If I wanted/needed to lie to lend credence to my argument, shouldn't I have gone the route of basketball?
"Put a spint on it and game on"...
That is so NOT gonna happen for a wide variety of reasons:
1. Peja has a low pain threshold. He is a shooter. A shooter with a sprained finger is not going to do well. A shooter IN PAIN with a sprained finger is going to do even less well.
2. You do not risk further injury to a player of Peja's caliber this early in the season. While the sprain itself is hopefully relatively minor, it could be made more serious if - because of numbing agents, etc - it was dislocated again, muscle or tendon was torn, etc.
3. While it might make a modicum of sense to say "we need these starters to play together" that's only true IF -and it's a HUGE if - they are playing the way they will normally play. You don't gain much if the starters are trying to play around an injured Peja.
That was NOT a slight tweak to his finger. It was sore to begin with - and appeared discolored before the game. Then, after Fortson's direct hit, it got a lot worse. There is NO compelling reason right now to insist that Peja be on the floor for a game against the Spurs. None.
That is so NOT gonna happen for a wide variety of reasons:
1. Peja has a low pain threshold. He is a shooter. A shooter with a sprained finger is not going to do well. A shooter IN PAIN with a sprained finger is going to do even less well.
2. You do not risk further injury to a player of Peja's caliber this early in the season. While the sprain itself is hopefully relatively minor, it could be made more serious if - because of numbing agents, etc - it was dislocated again, muscle or tendon was torn, etc.
3. While it might make a modicum of sense to say "we need these starters to play together" that's only true IF -and it's a HUGE if - they are playing the way they will normally play. You don't gain much if the starters are trying to play around an injured Peja.
That was NOT a slight tweak to his finger. It was sore to begin with - and appeared discolored before the game. Then, after Fortson's direct hit, it got a lot worse. There is NO compelling reason right now to insist that Peja be on the floor for a game against the Spurs. None.
Hello?
It's not about YOU in any way, shape or form. I don't care if you're really Joe Montana in real life.
Why would you lie? Perhaps to give the impression you - a big time college football player - have felt pain and survived? You're the one who brought it up, as though it would somehow lend credence to your argument.
Dude, you're so missing the entire point several people are now trying to make.
You haven't watched that much Kings basketball. You tend to post in vague conceptual terms about what a Princeton offense should be, what players should do, etc. INSTEAD of bringing real examples to the table.
You joined the forum once SAR was signed. You're an admitted SAR homer who hasn't (also by your own admission) watched that much Kings hoops. I'm sorry if you don't get it, but if you haven't walked the walk, you just really can't talk the talk.
You're dealing with a good number of people who bleed purple clear to the bone and have since the beginning. If you want to argue theory, you're in the wrong place.
We know our team. We know our system AND, possibly most importantly, we KNOW our players. We also know each other. All of those things come only with time... show patience, grasshopper. And at least respect that some of us know our team better than you do.
It's not about YOU in any way, shape or form. I don't care if you're really Joe Montana in real life.
Why would you lie? Perhaps to give the impression you - a big time college football player - have felt pain and survived? You're the one who brought it up, as though it would somehow lend credence to your argument.
Dude, you're so missing the entire point several people are now trying to make.
You haven't watched that much Kings basketball. You tend to post in vague conceptual terms about what a Princeton offense should be, what players should do, etc. INSTEAD of bringing real examples to the table.
You joined the forum once SAR was signed. You're an admitted SAR homer who hasn't (also by your own admission) watched that much Kings hoops. I'm sorry if you don't get it, but if you haven't walked the walk, you just really can't talk the talk.
You're dealing with a good number of people who bleed purple clear to the bone and have since the beginning. If you want to argue theory, you're in the wrong place.
We know our team. We know our system AND, possibly most importantly, we KNOW our players. We also know each other. All of those things come only with time... show patience, grasshopper. And at least respect that some of us know our team better than you do.
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It would be a simple victory for a life altering lie.
[quot]You haven't watched that much Kings basketball. You tend to post in vague conceptual terms about what a Princeton offense should be, what players should do, etc. INSTEAD of bringing real examples to the table.[/quote]
WHAT?
That's absurdly funny. Not only have I provided a less than vague ideas of what the Princeton offense is - I've provided examples of it and why I dislike it.
Nothing vague in my description of it.
Whatever. That's bull-huoey.
You could watch 100 years of basketball and still not understand a damn thing.
Wait. So, because you have watched them for longer - it gives you a better understanding of basketball and a better understanding of how THIS particular team would play together?
That's as insulting as it is incorrect.
You've WATCHED this system. Doesn't mean you KNOW it.
You've WATCHED this particular team no more or no less than I have. I watched every preseason game and every regular season game thus far. I'd be interested how you KNOW this team more than I do.
You might KNOW a few of the old timers better - but that team is dead. Just because you've SEEN those players play with another subset of individuals does NOT mean you know anything more or less about how they should or should not play together.
Granted. I'm sure some do and I'm sure some don't. I'm sure I'm right in certain areas and I'm sure I'm dead wrong.
But, you have to at least respect the fact that I do know basketball - even if my philosophy is diametrically opposed to how you view it.
[quot]You haven't watched that much Kings basketball. You tend to post in vague conceptual terms about what a Princeton offense should be, what players should do, etc. INSTEAD of bringing real examples to the table.[/quote]
WHAT?
That's absurdly funny. Not only have I provided a less than vague ideas of what the Princeton offense is - I've provided examples of it and why I dislike it.
Nothing vague in my description of it.
Whatever. That's bull-huoey.
You could watch 100 years of basketball and still not understand a damn thing.
Wait. So, because you have watched them for longer - it gives you a better understanding of basketball and a better understanding of how THIS particular team would play together?
That's as insulting as it is incorrect.
You've WATCHED this system. Doesn't mean you KNOW it.
You've WATCHED this particular team no more or no less than I have. I watched every preseason game and every regular season game thus far. I'd be interested how you KNOW this team more than I do.
You might KNOW a few of the old timers better - but that team is dead. Just because you've SEEN those players play with another subset of individuals does NOT mean you know anything more or less about how they should or should not play together.
Granted. I'm sure some do and I'm sure some don't. I'm sure I'm right in certain areas and I'm sure I'm dead wrong.
But, you have to at least respect the fact that I do know basketball - even if my philosophy is diametrically opposed to how you view it.
Playing Peja with a tweaked finger is stupid for a lot of reasons. In addition to those already posted, we don't have Vlade to kiss it and make it better.
But it basically boils down to the fact that Peja isn't going to be helping us on the court if he's worried about his pinky because he won't be able to shoot, which makes him useless. I've sprained a finger badly playing b-ball, that was on my off hand and I was out for two weeks. For Shaq it probably wouldn't matter so much but Peja needs that feather touch to be effective.
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But it basically boils down to the fact that Peja isn't going to be helping us on the court if he's worried about his pinky because he won't be able to shoot, which makes him useless. I've sprained a finger badly playing b-ball, that was on my off hand and I was out for two weeks. For Shaq it probably wouldn't matter so much but Peja needs that feather touch to be effective.
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It's not official that Peja is out. He's still listed as the starting SF, but there wasn't shootaround today and that's when adjustments to the lineup, if any, are generally announced. So, it appears it will be a "game-time decision" - meaning we probably won't know until House Party Live.
If he's out, Adelman doesn't have many choices. If he uses KT, then we have nothing productive coming off the bench. If he uses Corliss, KT's nose is liable to be out of joint. If he uses Garcia, I'll faint dead away...
It's times like this that truly expose the weaknesses in the "depth" of the bench.
If he's out, Adelman doesn't have many choices. If he uses KT, then we have nothing productive coming off the bench. If he uses Corliss, KT's nose is liable to be out of joint. If he uses Garcia, I'll faint dead away...
It's times like this that truly expose the weaknesses in the "depth" of the bench.
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