[Game] 10/10/13 - Kings @ Lakers (in Las Vegas) - pre-season 7:00 PDT

In my opinion, one year from now, just one between IT and Vasquez will be on this team. They are both ending contracts (even if Greivis is a RFA), so I guess the idea of the FO is to see who doeas better, and package the other one with one of our PFs to get a small forward. McCallum should be our long term PG backup, and he has the talent to became a very solid backup PG in this league. Plays good D, hits his shots when he's open, and he can only get better. Right now I don't think he is ready to play big minutes, but he has a season to learn.
Personally, I believe IT is the one who will be gone. I like IT, but I'm not sure I want to see the Kings giving him a long term contract. Right now with his small contract he's an asset, and he could be packaged with Patterson, Thornton or Salmons to get a better player.
 
I keep looking over at Houston and Asik / Celtics and Rondo. Deals to be made there.

Gerald Wallace (veteran SF, Celtics get to dump bad contract) and Rondo for McLemore, Hayes, Salmons, Patterson, and Vasquez works, as do a load of other player combinations that would aid the Celtics rebuild. My only concern with Rondo would be resigning him.

I'm sure some will have reservations over moving McLemore in a deal for Rondo, but that is what it will take unless we want to move our first in this draft.
 
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Entity

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i have always been optomistic. but 2 preseason games in and we are wanting two rookies starting after an average showing against the Lakers backups. come on guys lets not get ahead of ourselves here.
 
He probably did, actually. Isaiah had a pretty bad game tonight. He was only credited with 2 TOs, but I remember a stretch where he had 3 silly TOs on 3 straight possessions. He had at least 5 TOs. IT had more assists but he got burned defensively at times, McCallum was solid and played better defense. And that's coming from someone who thinks McCallums play is being grossly overestimated so far, even though he has done well for a 2nd round pick.

I know you're a massive IT fan, but there's no harm in admitting when he's had a below par game.
I'll gladly admit when someone has a bad game, when he has one. This wasn't it.

Yes, that stretch was horrifingly weird/stupid. But his other minutes he played exactly the kind of PG game we've been looking for offensively. He was looking for shooters the entire night and as of now, he's the only guy who has any ability to penetrate and score in the paint.

And Blake/Nash were both essentially shut out. Meeks beat IT a few times, but most of his damage came against Jimmer.
 

Entity

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Nash played 9 min so he shut out himself. Blake was missing wide open shots he wasn't shut down. Cuz looked bad Sunday did Bogut shut him down? No
 

Kingster

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Yes, IT did have a subpar game, and yes, McCallum is being overestimated.

Thompson has the ugliest looking footwork in the NBA, bar none. The fact that some of his low post moves produce points is a micacle of epic proportions that has not been reported by the secular media. If he were on Dancing with the Stars it would be hilarious. His position on the team is safe, if only for the fact that he is taller than 6'6".

The Lakers will be a serious contender for Wiggins. They will tank like a ball o'fire asteroid pulled into the earth's orbit.
 

Entity

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Yet year after year Thompson continues to beat out all the PF's the franchise bring in to unseat him. Landry, Hickson, Robinson, now Landry again.
 
OMG come guys saying the rookies should be starting??? thats far fetched at best. Bmac could have a 15-20 min a game role on this team in about 2 months. Ray is still a year away from being ready to contribute
Why the overall hesitation to ever start a rookie? Especially when your team is rebuilding? Why wait, if you think a player has the best set of skills for your team going forward? One reason, is if you're trying to "showcase" another player for more trade options, which of course is a definite possibility

Based on point guard skills alone, he will contribute a lot this season if given a decent chance
 

CruzDude

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i have always been optomistic. but 2 preseason games in and we are wanting two rookies starting after an average showing against the Lakers backups. come on guys lets not get ahead of ourselves here.
Best advice of the night. They are coming along but this coach will take his time to work out what is best for the TEAM. The rooks will get their minutes off the bench for quite awhile. How long is "quite awhile". Time and patience will tell. I'd rather address Outlaw and his one game break out at SF. If he can put together a couple more pre-season games like this one, he my earn the 3-spot or at least significant minutes there with LRMAM.
 

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i'm not sure what your are seeing that was SOOO magnificent. He made everyday run of the mill passes to open shooters. He didn't show any great offensive moves. In fact he has shown on several occasions in just 2 games that he is a poor decision maker on the break. His defense is average.
 
i'm not sure what your are seeing that was SOOO magnificent. He made everyday run of the mill passes to open shooters. He didn't show any great offensive moves. In fact he has shown on several occasions in just 2 games that he is a poor decision maker on the break. His defense is average.
I disagree about the average part, but even if the defense is only average, that is still a major upgrade over every other guard on the roster. With Cousins defensive deficiencies and the lack of a rim protector at the 4, backcourt defense is the only protection against the "Scrubby 3rd String Guard Has Career Game" problems the Kings have had for years now.
 
I'll gladly admit when someone has a bad game, when he has one. This wasn't it.

Yes, that stretch was horrifingly weird/stupid. But his other minutes he played exactly the kind of PG game we've been looking for offensively. He was looking for shooters the entire night and as of now, he's the only guy who has any ability to penetrate and score in the paint.

And Blake/Nash were both essentially shut out. Meeks beat IT a few times, but most of his damage came against Jimmer.
to me, this is key. i've been a well-known critic of the IT-as-starter argument for some time now. i've also been a well-known critic of allowing tyreke evans to walk in free agency. but evans' departure is what it is, and now the kings are seriously short of players who can get to the rim with any consistency. the majority of the players on this roster prefer to shoot jumpers: thornton, mclemore, fredette, thomas, vasquez, outlaw, salmons, patterson, etc. jason thompson will occasionally flash a nifty move in the post, but he shoots a considerable number of midrange jumpers, as does demarcus cousins. the only one in that group who has any inclination to drive into the paint with any amount of regularity is isaiah thomas. cousins and carl landry can certainly score in the post, but unless thomas is starting, who among the guards/forwards is going to break down the defense via penetration when the team's jump shots are clanging off the rim?

it's a problem with this roster, and one that i don't envy coach malone for having to solve. my preference is not to start isaiah thomas, because i still believe his size presents a defensive liability most nights, and i don't know why we let evans walk in favor of grievis vasquez if we don't utilize vasquez's ability to facilitate ball movement in the starting unit, specifically to help demarcus get easier shots. but then again, the unathletic vasquez doesn't have much in the way of a rim attack, and neither is he a terribly efficient shooter, while also being a liability on defense. so which defensive liability do you start? the one who fearlessly attacks the rim in spite of his size? or the one who's more likely to act as a floor general?

i'm inclined to start vasquez alongside thornton, because the coaching staff might be able to persuade the bayou bomber to do a little less bombing and a little more attacking the rim. it's very much within thornton's skillset to do so. he's just rarely utilized his ability to penetrate with the kings. i suppose he didn't have to when sharing the floor with evans or thomas. but if paired with vasquez, i'd hope that he would attempt to slash into the paint more consistently...
 
it's a problem with this roster, and one that i don't envy coach malone for having to solve. my preference is not to start isaiah thomas, because i still believe his size presents a defensive liability most nights, and i don't know why we let evans walk in favor of grievis vasquez if we don't utilize vasquez's ability to facilitate ball movement in the starting unit, specifically to help demarcus get easier shots. but then again, the unathletic vasquez doesn't have much in the way of a rim attack, and neither is he a terribly efficient shooter, while also being a liability on defense. so which defensive liability do you start? the one who fearlessly attacks the rim in spite of his size? or the one who's more likely to act as a floor general?
Salmons has shown the ability in the past to attack the rim, when he was playing the gaurd position.

It's not an ultimate solution to anything, but in an effort to explore the options of what we currently have (instead of complaining about what we don't), I'd explore Salmons at the two, where he can physically get some things done on a more consistent basis and get some confidence back. Same thing with Outlaw at the three
 
who among the guards/forwards is going to break down the defense via penetration when the team's jump shots are clanging off the rim?
IT, Vasquez, and McCallum have all shown the ability to get into the paint consistently. With Cousins or Landry occupying space in the post, I don't see a lack of dribble penetration as a major issue. We should get our points at the rim from off-ball cuts by Thornton/McLemore/Mbah a Moute and our second big when his man collapses weakside to help against Cousins or Landry.
 

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I disagree about the average part, but even if the defense is only average, that is still a major upgrade over every other guard on the roster. With Cousins defensive deficiencies and the lack of a rim protector at the 4, backcourt defense is the only protection against the "Scrubby 3rd String Guard Has Career Game" problems the Kings have had for years now.
You are really setting yourself up for disappointment this year if you plan on watching the kings. Ray is not going to win out the starting job and baring injury will not be getting a great amount of min. If i was they PG that happend to be on the court when steve blake was missing shot after shot. does that make me an above averge NBA defender?
 

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IT, Vasquez, and McCallum have all shown the ability to get into the paint consistently. With Cousins or Landry occupying space in the post, I don't see a lack of dribble penetration as a major issue. We should get our points at the rim from off-ball cuts by Thornton/McLemore/Mbah a Moute and our second big when his man collapses weakside to help against Cousins or Landry.

consistently? why are you using that word when it comes to Mccallum? he has gotten rejected at the rim several times in 2 games. yes 2 games hardly enough to call anything consistent at this point. would you say that Outlaw is a consistent 80% 3pt shooter?
 
to me, this is key. i've been a well-known critic of the IT-as-starter argument for some time now. i've also been a well-known critic of allowing tyreke evans to walk in free agency. but evans' departure is what it is, and now the kings are seriously short of players who can get to the rim with any consistency. the majority of the players on this roster prefer to shoot jumpers: thornton, mclemore, fredette, thomas, vasquez, outlaw, salmons, patterson, etc. jason thompson will occasionally flash a nifty move in the post, but he shoots a considerable number of midrange jumpers, as does demarcus cousins. the only one in that group who has any inclination to drive into the paint with any amount of regularity is isaiah thomas. cousins and carl landry can certainly score in the post, but unless thomas is starting, who among the guards/forwards is going to break down the defense via penetration when the team's jump shots are clanging off the rim?

it's a problem with this roster, and one that i don't envy coach malone for having to solve. my preference is not to start isaiah thomas, because i still believe his size presents a defensive liability most nights, and i don't know why we let evans walk in favor of grievis vasquez if we don't utilize vasquez's ability to facilitate ball movement in the starting unit, specifically to help demarcus get easier shots. but then again, the unathletic vasquez doesn't have much in the way of a rim attack, and neither is he a terribly efficient shooter, while also being a liability on defense. so which defensive liability do you start? the one who fearlessly attacks the rim in spite of his size? or the one who's more likely to act as a floor general?

i'm inclined to start vasquez alongside thornton, because the coaching staff might be able to persuade the bayou bomber to do a little less bombing and a little more attacking the rim. it's very much within thornton's skillset to do so. he's just rarely utilized his ability to penetrate with the kings. i suppose he didn't have to when sharing the floor with evans or thomas. but if paired with vasquez, i'd hope that he would attempt to slash into the paint more consistently...
I still don't think you're looking at this correctly. Vasquez was an asset we got so we didn't lose Reke for nothing. I don't think we went into the off-season with the intention of dealing Reke for Vasquez. The team decided to move on from Reke and got Vasquez back to mitigate the loss.

Anyway, I think GV-Thornton is the right call as well. It all depends on if Thornton can revert back to his first 21 game stint with us, when he was scoring 2o PPG in a variety of different ways. THAT Thornton was doing everything and was the total package as a #2 scorer. He's just fallen in love with the 3 ball the last few years. But he's certainly capable of being a penetrator. I also really like the idea of being able to turn to an IT-McLemore-Landry bench mob. That trio could be a consistent 25-30 PPG a night and give us huge scoring boost. Plus, this allows IT and Landry to be the focal points of the 2nd unit and do what they do best: Be mega-efficient scorers.

What that also does is sets up a really nice hierarchical offensive structure for both units. Cousins-Thornton-Vasquez for the 1st unit and IT-Landry-McLemore for the 2nd unit
 
IT, Vasquez, and McCallum have all shown the ability to get into the paint consistently. With Cousins or Landry occupying space in the post, I don't see a lack of dribble penetration as a major issue. We should get our points at the rim from off-ball cuts by Thornton/McLemore/Mbah a Moute and our second big when his man collapses weakside to help against Cousins or Landry.
i'd say that vasquez is a step below mediocre at the rim, at best. last season, in seven more minutes per game than isaiah thomas, he only managed a few more total attempts at the rim than IT. on those attempts, vasquez shot 57% at the rim, which is weak for a ball dominant guard in the contemporary nba. i certainly grant you that IT has shown the ability to get into the paint consistently, and has shown the ability to score consistently in the paint (68% at the rim last season), but again, i'm not sure he's a long term starter...

also, i honestly don't expect mccallum to get significant minutes this season, if coach malone is true to his word about creating a consistent rotation. i just don't see room for mccallum unless someone gets injured, and i'm not convinced about him as an nba talent yet, regardless. i don't expect carl landry to start alongside demarcus cousins, either, because that is a disastrous defensive pairing. that said, i maintain that this roster is an absolute mess and that dribble penetration will be a problem in the starting unit. however, coach may very well prove me wrong, playing mccallum more minutes than i expect, and deciding to start landry next to cousins to give the team greater offensive punch in the paint...
 
I still don't think you're looking at this correctly. Vasquez was an asset we got so we didn't lose Reke for nothing. I don't think we went into the off-season with the intention of dealing Reke for Vasquez. The team decided to move on from Reke and got Vasquez back to mitigate the loss.

Anyway, I think GV-Thornton is the right call as well. It all depends on if Thornton can revert back to his first 21 game stint with us, when he was scoring 2o PPG in a variety of different ways. THAT Thornton was doing everything and was the total package as a #2 scorer. He's just fallen in love with the 3 ball the last few years. But he's certainly capable of being a penetrator. I also really like the idea of being able to turn to an IT-McLemore-Landry bench mob. That trio could be a consistent 25-30 PPG a night and give us huge scoring boost. Plus, this allows IT and Landry to be the focal points of the 2nd unit and do what they do best: Be mega-efficient scorers.

What that also does is sets up a really nice hierarchical offensive structure for both units. Cousins-Thornton-Vasquez for the 1st unit and IT-Landry-McLemore for the 2nd unit
clearly the intention wasn't overtly to deal evans for vasquez. my point is simply that you don't acquire a starter-quality asset like vasquez just to stash him on the bench, not unless there is an obvious reason to start another player in front of him. one can make the case to start isaiah thomas over vasquez, but it's a paper-thin case, in my opinion...

that said, i'm fond of the hierarchical offensive structure as you've defined it here. i still think this roster is as patchwork as it comes, but establishing such a hierarchy can go a long way toward breeding some consistency out of such a mismatched assortment of players. regardless, it's a p***-poor defensive team no matter how you organize the rotation, so coach malone is going to have to squeeze considerable effort out of a great many players with shaky-to-awful defensive reputations...

mostly, i'm just hoping for a midseason trade to bring this new-era kings team into greater focus, because right now, from where i sit, there's not a whole lot here to work with when the long-term expectations are to get back to the playoffs...

edit: i just realized that the new forum software corrected my use of the word "p***" to "pee." funny. "pee-poor defensive team" just doesn't have the requisite oomph. ;)
 

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clearly the intention wasn't overtly to deal evans for vasquez. my point is simply that you don't acquire a starter-quality asset like vasquez just to stash him on the bench, not unless there is an obvious reason to start another player in front of him. one can make the case to start isaiah thomas over vasquez, but it's a paper-thin case, in my opinion...

that said, i'm fond of the hierarchical offensive structure as you've defined it here. i still think this roster is as patchwork as it comes, but establishing such a hierarchy can go a long way toward breeding some consistency out of such a mismatched assortment of players. regardless, it's a p***-poor defensive team no matter how you organize the rotation, so coach malone is going to have to squeeze considerable effort out of a great many players with shaky-to-awful defensive reputations...

mostly, i'm just hoping for a midseason trade to bring this new-era kings team into greater focus, because right now, from where i sit, there's not a whole lot here to work with when the long-term expectations are to get back to the playoffs...

edit: i just realized that the new forum software corrected my use of the word "p***" to "pee." funny. "pee-poor defensive team" just doesn't have the requisite oomph. ;)
How about urinating-poor defensive team. Or defecating defensive team. I sometimes wonder why one word is "offensive"/vulgar according to Webster's and a synonym isn't.
 

Glenn

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That goes for every player on the team, except maybe IT who gets a lot of his scoring out of freelance basketball. It's no accident that Chuck Hayes was finally useful in a defensive system. Jimmer looked good on offense getting looks in a system. McLemore's skillset actually mandates an offensive system to get him looks.

The last two games have shown just how much Keith Smart hurt this team.
They CONFIRMED how much Smart had hurt our team. ;)
 

dude12

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Here's the problem with the talk of having to start IT because he may be our only penetrator.....not sure I agree with this by the way......ITs defense is subpar. For all the talk about the Lakers guards not being very good, they were open often with IT and Jimmer in the game. And lets not forget that the hero ball of getting your own shot (IT) is not our offense anymore. IT shouldn't be starting and should come off the bench in spots.
 

Glenn

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Here's the problem with the talk of having to start IT because he may be our only penetrator.....not sure I agree with this by the way......ITs defense is subpar. For all the talk about the Lakers guards not being very good, they were open often with IT and Jimmer in the game. And lets not forget that the hero ball of getting your own shot (IT) is not our offense anymore. IT shouldn't be starting and should come off the bench in spots.
Another way of putting this is that if Vasquez doesn't start, why did we acquire him? His height will make the passes easier to make (and see). The main beneficiaries of a 6'6" pg will be Cousins and anyone else who is open and McLemore who will get his chances at lobs. IT can throw a lob but a man 9" taller should be able to do it easier. The lob is part of McLemore's game. There are things that a 5'9" player simply can't do.
 

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Another way of putting this is that if Vasquez doesn't start, why did we acquire him? His height will make the passes easier to make (and see). The main beneficiaries of a 6'6" pg will be Cousins and anyone else who is open and McLemore who will get his chances at lobs. IT can throw a lob but a man 9" taller should be able to do it easier. The lob is part of McLemore's game. There are things that a 5'9" player simply can't do.
Yes....anxious to see a backcourt where we are not undersized.
 
i'd say that vasquez is a step below mediocre at the rim, at best. last season, in seven more minutes per game than isaiah thomas, he only managed a few more total attempts at the rim than IT. on those attempts, vasquez shot 57% at the rim, which is weak for a ball dominant guard in the contemporary nba. i certainly grant you that IT has shown the ability to get into the paint consistently, and has shown the ability to score consistently in the paint (68% at the rim last season), but again, i'm not sure he's a long term starter...

also, i honestly don't expect mccallum to get significant minutes this season, if coach malone is true to his word about creating a consistent rotation. i just don't see room for mccallum unless someone gets injured, and i'm not convinced about him as an nba talent yet, regardless. i don't expect carl landry to start alongside demarcus cousins, either, because that is a disastrous defensive pairing. that said, i maintain that this roster is an absolute mess and that dribble penetration will be a problem in the starting unit. however, coach may very well prove me wrong, playing mccallum more minutes than i expect, and deciding to start landry next to cousins to give the team greater offensive punch in the paint...
Perhaps we are thinking of different things when we talk about dribble penetration. There is the type of penetration that leads to takes at the rim, and then there is the probing penetration that a point guard like Nash or Rondo typically uses to get his teammates open. Vasquez does the second kind very well. He is good at maintaining his dribble and gets into the paint, but maybe not all the way to the rim. The key being that once the ballhandler gets into the paint, it causes the defense to collapse and frees up shooters. IT generally turns the penetration into a layup. Ditto McCallum. Vasquez uses it as a kickout pass opportunity more often than not. Both are effective at breaking down defenses. Once McCallum learns when to go for the shot and when to maintain the dribble to free up teammates, he will eliminate many of those blocked shots at the rim.
 

bajaden

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No. No he did not.
I agree that he didn't outplay IT tonight, but he certainly held his own, and did nothing to make me believe he can't be a starting PG in the NBA. In the first game, yes, McCallum outplayed IT. I'm referring to the offensive side of the ball of course. On the defensive side, he's outplayed IT in both games. To IT's credit, I thought he made a concerted effort to distribute the ball last night, and produced nine assists. Whats lost on some folks is that McCallum is just as good an athlete as IT. Just bigger. And while some people may be over estimating how fast he'll rise up the ranks, they're not over estimating his ability. If he had played at UCLA, or Kentucky, he would have been a first round pick. Because you played in a lesser conference, it doesn't mean you don't have elite skills.

I know that IT has his fan base just as Tyreke did. Personally, I'm fine with IT. I just don't see him as a starting PG in the league. I do see him as a great change of pace PG off the bench. I admire his moxey and determation, but I've yet to see any undersized PG not have that same attitude. It seems to come with the size. The ultimate question down the road for the Kings won't be choosing between McCallum and IT. It will be choosing between Vasquez and IT. Simply because both are going to be restricted freeagents at seasons end. I sincerely doubt that the Kings will try and keep both. Its also possible that they'll keep neither. Should be interesting..
 

bajaden

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Long term, and this has nothing to do with preseason as I haven't seen either game, but personally, I like IT and RayMac and don't like Greivis. Long term that is.. Reading defensive deficiency stats on Greivis, as well as hearing how the N.O system inflated his Assist ratio, and he needs to show me something to remain here beyond this year
I'm curious, just how do you set up an offense to inflate your PG's assists stats? You say that as though what Vasquez did was a bad thing. If its so easy, then why didn't we do it to help Tyreke, or IT? All a PG can do is get the ball to a teammate that's open and then hope he scores. So unless they designed a funnel to the basket, I'm not sure exactly how you do what your implying. I find it strange that you say you don't like Vasquez, and you haven't even seen him play on our team yet. That's like saying you don't like spinach when you've never tasted it.

Personally, I've got nothing to say about Vasquez one way or the other in regards to our team. After I've seen him play a few games, then maybe I'll have an opinion. I know I liked him at Maryland, but really haven't followed him that closely since he's been in the NBA. At Maryland he was a fiery, tough, in your face type of player that took no guff from anyone, along with being a hard worker that hated to lose. Now none of that makes him a great player, but they are the attributes of a great player.
 

bajaden

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Perhaps we are thinking of different things when we talk about dribble penetration. There is the type of penetration that leads to takes at the rim, and then there is the probing penetration that a point guard like Nash or Rondo typically uses to get his teammates open. Vasquez does the second kind very well. He is good at maintaining his dribble and gets into the paint, but maybe not all the way to the rim. The key being that once the ballhandler gets into the paint, it causes the defense to collapse and frees up shooters. IT generally turns the penetration into a layup. Ditto McCallum. Vasquez uses it as a kickout pass opportunity more often than not. Both are effective at breaking down defenses. Once McCallum learns when to go for the shot and when to maintain the dribble to free up teammates, he will eliminate many of those blocked shots at the rim.
I almost completely agree with this post. The only issue I take with it pertains to McCallum. At Detroit he lived in the paint, and he was a pass first PG there. All great PG's live in the paint. And you stated the reason! It breaks down the defense. Case in point. last night, twice Blake got into the paint with the ball, and twice Cousins moved over to stop the ball, and twice Blake passed the ball to Cousins man, now left unguarded for a backdoor basket. That doesn't happen if Blake doesn't get into the paint. That's exactly what Vasquez does, and given time, and more experience at this level, that's what McCallum will do as well.
 
Perhaps we are thinking of different things when we talk about dribble penetration. There is the type of penetration that leads to takes at the rim, and then there is the probing penetration that a point guard like Nash or Rondo typically uses to get his teammates open. Vasquez does the second kind very well. He is good at maintaining his dribble and gets into the paint, but maybe not all the way to the rim. The key being that once the ballhandler gets into the paint, it causes the defense to collapse and frees up shooters. IT generally turns the penetration into a layup. Ditto McCallum. Vasquez uses it as a kickout pass opportunity more often than not. Both are effective at breaking down defenses. Once McCallum learns when to go for the shot and when to maintain the dribble to free up teammates, he will eliminate many of those blocked shots at the rim.
we are definitely thinking of different things when we talk about dribble penetration, because, in my opinion, dribble penetration requires the actual threat of a score at the rim in order to sustain its impact on a defense. against bad defenses, sure, simply maintaining a dribble may draw enough attention in order to free up a jump shooter, but make no mistake, the very players you've cited--steve nash and rajon rondo--have gotten to the rim anywhere from 300-600 times a season in their respective primes, and they've been able to score at the rim with elite efficiency...

in his prime, steve nash was a very fast PG with tremendous vision, and that significant scoring threat he posed is what justified a good defense's attention as he slashed into the paint, freeing up open shooters to receive nash's laser-guided kick-outs for the score. but a roy hibbert-led pacers defense, for example, doesn't need to pack the paint in order to stop greivis vasquez's dribble penetration, not when they'll be able to stop his unathletic push to the basket with very little effort. in the event of vasquez penetration, hibbert may slide over to help, but i'm sure indiana's wing players would much rather just stay home on the kings' streaky outside shooters, forcing them to make bad/tough shots, or forcing vasquez to make a bad/tough pass. in an increasingly guard-driven league, it is my opinion that a playoff-caliber offense requires a serious threat to penetrate and score at the rim...

all that said, i still expect the kings offense to be considerably more organized this season under coach malone, and with the direction of vasquez as a starting PG. the kings' shooters should, indeed, find more consistency from range in the absence of keith smart's junk ball style of play. but i also expect the ball to clang off the rim a whole helluva lot any time the kings face a competent defense, because until demarcus develops some reliable go-to moves in the post, there isn't a single player that the kings can count on to beat the defense with the ball in their hands...

a player like tyreke evans carved up both good and bad defenses with his ability to score nearly at will off penetration. he won't be doing so for the kings anymore, so the front office needs to acquire someone who can. nba defenses are increasingly more athletic in their composition and sophisticated in their schema. the teams that make it to the playoffs, and go deepest in the playoffs, have a good defense and at least one talent with a significant rim attack. if you can shoot the ball, so much the better. memphis can't shoot, so they fell by the wayside. san antonio can, so they made it to the finals...

but personally, i'd rather take my chances with a sturdy defense and an offense that piles up its points in the paint over, say, the shooting spree that is the golden state warriors. as fun as they are to watch, and as much as they're currently the "team to watch" in the nba, they got bounced from the playoffs this last season when the shots stopped falling and when they couldn't stop anyone at the rim. there's a reason they're hoping and praying for a full season of health for andrew bogut, and there's a reason they're absolutely ga-ga over the andre iguodala acquisition. he gives them a player who can defend out on the wing and score at the rim, two facets of the game that plagued them in the playoffs, when a sturdy san antonio defense stayed home on the shooters...