Glenn
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From my perspective, it occurred in the latter part of WW II.
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Tropical Island Video Vault Draft - ROUND 20 - FINAL ROUND
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From my perspective, it occurred in the latter part of WW II.
Crap. Finally, someone takes one off my list.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Lowneherz selects:
Really.
He PM'd me.
Like, twice.
You can trust me on this. Completely.
So...my turn now?
Really.
He PM'd me.
Like, twice.
You can trust me on this. Completely.
So...my turn now?
Lowneherz selects:
Heh. But really, I deliberately paid good money to see this one because it was supposed to be SO bad. It was not a good movie. It was not an average movie. But I've seen any number of movies that were equally bad. I'm not really sure it deserved its reputation. (Another film that deserved a mediocrely-bad rather than worst-of-all-time reputation: Battlefield Earth.)
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
I would actually agree with that assessment. People who rush off screaming brainlessly about how things are the worst of all time rarely have any clue.
Although well groomed cavemen starting up 1000 year old jets after a one week crash course in flying them IS pretty bleeping pathetic...
RookieOfTheDay
Starter
I think part of why Battlefield Earth is regarded so poorly is that is was a big budget film with big stars. They were actually trying to make a good movie but somehow ended up with a really expensive B-movie instead.
BE is panned because of its less than mainstream religious nature. They could have made Citizen Kane and it would have been savaged in the media.
The real problem with both of those movies is that they fail to achieve so bad they're good let alone so bad they're great status.
The real problem with both of those movies is that they fail to achieve so bad they're good let alone so bad they're great status.
kingsnation
All-Star
Hey Jespher, just so you know... I am able to make my picks. Thanks though anyway!
jalfa
Starter
For my third-round choice I'm going to go with The Big Lebowski (1998).
This movie has everything - a main character named simply The Dude, bowling, a ringer of whites, nihilists ("Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos"), a segment from Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, and a rug that really ties it all together.
The Big Lebowski has a plot complicated enough to stand up to (require, really) multiple viewings, and pretty much every time I watch this movie I catch something subtle I hadn't noticed before. Perfect for my island.
My personal #1 draft pick, had I participated. Not only because it's my favourite film (which it is), but also with the emphasis on rewatchability. As pdxKingsFan already mentioned, it takes a bit of time, but after about the fourth time I watched it, I could truly appreciate it. Pretty much every single scene is, in some way, great. The chief of police beating The Dude up, paying for milk with a cheque, the dream sequence, Jesus. Some of these scenes I would draft ahead of entire films.
Löwenherz
Starter
Amadeus - 1984
So, Tom Hulce is Mozart.
What?! That has to be the most asinine and, well, weirdly inspired casting choices in the history of cinema.
The supremely gifted, spoiled, conceited and oblivious man-child as performed by an alumnus of Delta Tau Chi ... All right. Combine that with Abraham's brooding and spiteful Salieri and from there the plot kind of plays out like a twisted Road Runner cartoon.
But the real beauty of Amadeus - aside from the works of Mozart as its score - is how the movie mirrors the duplicity of its namesake adding considerable depth to what could have been a straightforward story of envy run amok.
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Jespher
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I played this soundtrack to my son right after he was born to calm him down. An excellent movie back in the day, but not one I personally return to for a full viewing. I do really like the intro though
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Well...ever since last round I knew what I was going to take here...until about 5 picks ago when I suddenly realized something was going to slip to me that I simply could not pass up. My island is starting to shape up as a rather tense place, but still, I was going to want a movie of this type, and how could I do much better?:
The Silence of the Lambs (1991) R
It may not be the single most rewatched movie on the isle, but when I'm looking for a chiller and a thriller, I've got one of the great meditations on human evil, and one of the great iconic performances to which to turn.
The Silence of the Lambs (1991) R
It may not be the single most rewatched movie on the isle, but when I'm looking for a chiller and a thriller, I've got one of the great meditations on human evil, and one of the great iconic performances to which to turn.
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Great pick, and definitely on my list.
I think it's easy to forget just how well-made this movie is. Having not seen it for at least half a decade, about a year ago I saw it was starting in 2 minutes and flipped over to the channel, figured I'd let the opening credits roll by as I searched for something else on. Ended up watching the whole thing. It just draws you in from the very beginning, it's perfectly paced, practically flawless. Maybe a bit grim to watch over and over, but a great flick.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
I haven't gone into a cellar since. And my goal of having a complete leather outfit seems a bit tacky.
kingsnation
All-Star
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
I think precisely because the first was much more than just a sports movie. The 6th and final one captured a littel of that magic too.
I know that the first is the best and it really isn't even close but the only two I could watch forever and ever are III and IV. See "So bad they're great".
GoGoGadget
All-Star
A number of good picks recently. Both because of the quality of the films themselves, and because my list (so far) remains undamaged. Keep up the good work, chaps!
My third coming shortly...
My third coming shortly...
GoGoGadget
All-Star
Another of the films that shouldn't have gone undrafted last time, my next pick is:
American Psycho (2000) -- This is one of those films that, while I absolutely loved it when I saw it in theaters, I didn't think I'd have much need to purchase or to watch repeatedly. Not because of the darkness or the violence, necessarily, since those are both characteristics for which I have an exceedingly high level of tolerance, but more because the slickness and prettiness of the dark violence cleverly tricks you into thinking its appeal is all surface. Christian Bale is brilliant in the lead, playing a character so over-the-top in his nuttiness that you lose track of the film's subtleties -- its wit, its unflinching satire of the 1980s, its wonderful pacing, its terrific direction (by a woman, incidentally, which is often lost on those who can't grasp the satire and protest its misogyny), and so on. But there is great depth in this film and its lead performance, which is ultimately what made this seemingly superficial larf for years impossible to resist when caught on cable and eventually one of the most often viewed discs in my collection. Besides, if nothing else, it will ensure that when I finally get off my island I'll have a great future in designing the perfect business card.
American Psycho (2000) -- This is one of those films that, while I absolutely loved it when I saw it in theaters, I didn't think I'd have much need to purchase or to watch repeatedly. Not because of the darkness or the violence, necessarily, since those are both characteristics for which I have an exceedingly high level of tolerance, but more because the slickness and prettiness of the dark violence cleverly tricks you into thinking its appeal is all surface. Christian Bale is brilliant in the lead, playing a character so over-the-top in his nuttiness that you lose track of the film's subtleties -- its wit, its unflinching satire of the 1980s, its wonderful pacing, its terrific direction (by a woman, incidentally, which is often lost on those who can't grasp the satire and protest its misogyny), and so on. But there is great depth in this film and its lead performance, which is ultimately what made this seemingly superficial larf for years impossible to resist when caught on cable and eventually one of the most often viewed discs in my collection. Besides, if nothing else, it will ensure that when I finally get off my island I'll have a great future in designing the perfect business card.
Would have been my next pick.
GoGoGadget
All-Star
Its ok, other than it removes a movie most are likely to have seen from my list.
Jespher
Starter
Here's another curious NC17 rating on imdb.com. I own this film, love it, and will of course allow its selection. That version is R rated so I wonder where the disconnect is here. I'll link the rotten tomatoes page which lists it as an R rating...curious indeed.Another of the films that shouldn't have gone undrafted last time, my next pick is:
Dime Dropper
All-Star
I've never seen it (actually I'm sorry to say that that goes for more films than I'd like to admit, considering I'm studying English and Film) but it looks like one I'll have to check out. I was particularly worried about you GGG, going by the last draft I thought you may be a threat to me at this pick.
IMDB seems to have its movie ratings wonked to hell. The home version is unrated and is probably the NC17 cut, it features a whopping 18 seconds of extra footage, which is mostly Christian Bale's naked buttocks. I was going to settle for the R myself... now I demand it. No naked Bale buttocks for you G3.
BTW, like with Grindhouse the little picture rating at the top says one thing but if you scroll down to the film info below it clearly states it was a US R, if you click the "see all certifications" link it then shows all ratings it got. You can also go to http://movie-censorship.com/ to get a full explanation of many movies different versions. This site is most definitely NSFW as a whole, nor is the entry for American Psycho which shows a few still frames from the censored scenes.
BTW, like with Grindhouse the little picture rating at the top says one thing but if you scroll down to the film info below it clearly states it was a US R, if you click the "see all certifications" link it then shows all ratings it got. You can also go to http://movie-censorship.com/ to get a full explanation of many movies different versions. This site is most definitely NSFW as a whole, nor is the entry for American Psycho which shows a few still frames from the censored scenes.
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NoBonus
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My third selection:
Return of the Jedi (1983)
What can I say about Jedi? I have probably watched this film more times than any other single film and intend on watching it more. There are Ewoks, but for those purists who hate ewoks, realize that Star Wars was ALWAYS a combination of slap-stick humour and good old fashioned sci-fi... in Emprie and Star Wars, there was R2 and C-3P0, as well as the banter between Chewie and Han... so I have no problem with Ewoks. But there is also a TON of other weird and exciting characters in this film that make it so great and so much fun...
Return of the Jedi (1983)
What can I say about Jedi? I have probably watched this film more times than any other single film and intend on watching it more. There are Ewoks, but for those purists who hate ewoks, realize that Star Wars was ALWAYS a combination of slap-stick humour and good old fashioned sci-fi... in Emprie and Star Wars, there was R2 and C-3P0, as well as the banter between Chewie and Han... so I have no problem with Ewoks. But there is also a TON of other weird and exciting characters in this film that make it so great and so much fun...
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