The SF Question

Which of these high-dollar SF options would you pursue with our cap space?

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randymoss1881 said:
One guy who could be a sleeper is jeff green. The celtics are gonna get a top 5 pick and are in serious tank mode if we get a pick 7-9 I think they might go for that in reverse of what they did with the ray allen trade.
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Interesting idea and I agree that he may be a guy to target. He's unique in that he can play both forward positions. Would seem to be a good personality for the attitude emphasis also.

I sure hope we can pick up a player like him who is a true forward...not a shooting gaurd pretending to be forward
 
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This is what Chuck Hayes used to look like. Does this guy even care anymore?

Perkins is a 28 year old center who is 6'11
Hayes is a 30 year old center who is 6'6

Perkins Career AVG's
23.2 MPG / .542 FG% / 6.1 REB / 1.6 BLK / 6.0 PPG and one championship

Chuck Hayes AVG's
19.5 MPG / .502 FG% / 5.4 REB / 0.4 BLK / 4.0 PPG

Yes, Perkins is having a bad year, but Hayes has had a bad 3 years. 2 years younger, same length on contract, he's in NBA shape, Kings need height - I'd do it for the 4ish million extra next season.
 
ShastaKingsFan said:
Perkins listed at 6'11 is rediculous. He's not that tall and there's no way he's 5" taller than Hayes
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If we want to go by draft express numbers, which I personally believe is most accurate because they use predraft combine measurements, Perkins is 6'10 with 7-4 wingspan, Hayes is 6'7 with a 6-10 wingspan. Perkins was also a lot younger when he took those measurements. But those are all just numbers, anyway. The point is the same, Perkins is an NBA sized big man, Chuck Hayes is not.
 
You haven't watched Perkins since he left Boston, have you? (I'm not defending Chuck here.)



Jason Thompson is much better. Any big we get should be good enough to send Thompson to the bench. We already have players that allow for rotations that exclude Chuck.
 
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Switching topics a little, the Jazz did not sign an extension with Gordon Hayward this year. He will be RFA next year. You would probably have to offer close to the max to bring him in, but he is second on my list after Batum as guys who I would want playing next to Cousins.

Assuming we buy out Salmons and let every other FA on the team walk, we would still only have about 10 million of cap space. The front office would have to find a way to move one of the other albatross contracts to free up additional cap space, preferably enough to be able to bring back IT and sign the new rookie from the draft.

1. Is Hayward worth close to a max contract?
2. Is it worth going hard after him even if it is likely that Utah will match any offer?
 
Hadlowe said:
Switching topics a little, the Jazz did not sign an extension with Gordon Hayward this year. He will be RFA next year. You would probably have to offer close to the max to bring him in, but he is second on my list after Batum as guys who I would want playing next to Cousins.

Assuming we buy out Salmons and let every other FA on the team walk, we would still only have about 10 million of cap space. The front office would have to find a way to move one of the other albatross contracts to free up additional cap space, preferably enough to be able to bring back IT and sign the new rookie from the draft.

1. Is Hayward worth close to a max contract?
2. Is it worth going hard after him even if it is likely that Utah will match any offer?
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Not even close to a max deal. I think he's a slightly better than great complimentary player but to me he's a rich mans prime Mike Dunleavy. I think 8-10M is the highest I would go and even then I'd be a little worried that I overpaid.
 
sdballer said:
Not even close to a max deal. I think he's a slightly better than great complimentary player but to me he's a rich mans prime Mike Dunleavy. I think 8-10M is the highest I would go and even then I'd be a little worried that I overpaid.
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Max???? No way. Read the above. Hayward is what we hoped Thornton would be or at least be similar.
 
I've seen multiple Chicago fan's suggesting a MT and Fish for Deng swap. I don't think Chicago would do it, but their need for backcourt help is worth watching.
 
sdballer said:
I've seen multiple Chicago fan's suggesting a MT and Fish for Deng swap. I don't think Chicago would do it, but their need for backcourt help is worth watching.
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I don't really think Chicago would do that either, but if they offered that deal, we would do it in about 150 milliseconds. We actually SAVE a little over $1M, Deng is an expiring if it doesn't work out, we clear some time for McLemore and get cap space next year...I just don't see the downside at all. Which is one reason I don't think Chicago would do it. The other reason is that it leaves them pretty thin at the SF themselves - I guess they'd slide Butler over there and maybe use Salmons a bit along with Snell, but Thornton/Butler seems like a downgrade from Butler/Deng to me. Maybe I'm off on that because of Thornton's 3PT shooting.
 
Capt. Factorial said:
I don't really think Chicago would do that either, but if they offered that deal, we would do it in about 150 milliseconds. We actually SAVE a little over $1M, Deng is an expiring if it doesn't work out, we clear some time for McLemore and get cap space next year...I just don't see the downside at all. Which is one reason I don't think Chicago would do it. The other reason is that it leaves them pretty thin at the SF themselves - I guess they'd slide Butler over there and maybe use Salmons a bit along with Snell, but Thornton/Butler seems like a downgrade from Butler/Deng to me. Maybe I'm off on that because of Thornton's 3PT shooting.
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I also think that Deng is beginning that long slide downward physically. He is long enough that his career won't collapse when his athleticism goes away like Gerald Wallace, but you only have a year or two left of prime play before he slips into mediocrity.
 
Should we add Evan Turner to the SF list yet since he's almost certainly available and starting to show his talent or is he still in the "wait and see" category?
 
sdballer said:
I've seen multiple Chicago fan's suggesting a MT and Fish for Deng swap. I don't think Chicago would do it, but their need for backcourt help is worth watching.
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Where do we sign? I'd even throw in Jimmer if that would add a gram of incentive.
 
We need to be acquiring stars or end of the benchers. This constant search for the middle of the road players (Wallace is now in that category) has left us with the team we have now. We have 1 star, a star in the making and a guy who could be a star and a whole bunch of head scratchers. The end of the benchers will be acquired at the end of the team acquiring process.
 
God no to Wallace. That ship has sailed. I think we are so far away that I'm not even sure about Deng. What I'd like to see is a guy like Tony Snell from Chicago. The coaches really liked him during the pre-draft workouts as well as Hardaway Jr. Wouldn't it be nice to have some young, long, athletic SF that could grow into the role along with Ben and Cuz. I'm not going to lie, it's tough watching Salmons and Outlaw.
 
dude12 said:
God no to Wallace. That ship has sailed. I think we are so far away that I'm not even sure about Deng. What I'd like to see is a guy like Tony Snell from Chicago. The coaches really liked him during the pre-draft workouts as well as Hardaway Jr. Wouldn't it be nice to have some young, long, athletic SF that could grow into the role along with Ben and Cuz. I'm not going to lie, it's tough watching Salmons and Outlaw.
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Snell? he's only playing maybe a minute or two a game. Outlaw is better than him sometimes.
 
blackice said:
Granger is expendable for Indiana, no question. Only problem is he has been injury prone lately so it's a chance to take.
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I say it's a win win if Indy accepts thornton and salmons. If he stays hurt and we don't like him then we just got out of thorntons contract. But if he is able to play in 50+ games at 20-25min then we could resign him at 5mill a year
 
There is nothing the Kings have to offer to get Granger or Hill in return. The Pacers are a defensive minded team. They will never trade for some mediocre PF, who arent able to defend the paint, or some wannabe SG,who doesnt even care about defense. Wake up! The Kings have no value besides Cousins, Thomas and Mclemore.
 
KingsFanGER said:
There is nothing the Kings have to offer to get Granger or Hill in return. The Pacers are a defensive minded team. They will never trade for some mediocre PF, who arent able to defend the paint, or some wannabe SG,who doesnt even care about defense. Wake up! The Kings have no value besides Cousins, Thomas and Mclemore.
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They arnt trading hill so let's ignore that. But we do have enough for granger if he isn't healthy they would at least want to get something for him before he leaves and thorntan would provid scoring for there bench
 
I would want Turner. While he is a little undersized, we could live with his production as it stands now. Would philly take what we would offer? Let us hope
 
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