SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
I say sign Chris Anderson and let him start at PF. He is a super athelete that can rebound, block shots, and dunk like a madman. I say this guy is going to be a big player one day. Pick him up with part of the MLE.
OFFICIAL trade thread. Post trade proposals HERE! (merged)
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CaminoChaos
Bench
i have never started a thread this long anywhere on the web. cool. i feel important 
So I saw on realgm that the Kings have a trade exception and after some hunting I've found this:
I don't know how reliable this info is, but according to somebody here that exception is worth 6.4 million. For those of you that pay attention to salaries when making trade proposals, this is pretty significant. It means, for example, that we could trade Bobby Jackson (3.4 million dollar contract) for a player or players making 9.8 million dollars.
This is also from last year and considering 5.4 of it is from Keon Clark, that's already expired. So probably the realgm site just hasn't been updated from last year. So more likely is that we don't have a trade exception.
It's still changes things a lot though. Firstly, it means draft picks don't count towards salary which I didn't know. They can sweeten a deal, but the salaries of the traded players still have to match. And secondly, it means the contracts don't always have to match. I still don't know when you can and can't use a trade exception, but it sounds like there's more fluidity with the salaries than I thought.
I don't know how reliable this info is, but according to somebody here that exception is worth 6.4 million. For those of you that pay attention to salaries when making trade proposals, this is pretty significant. It means, for example, that we could trade Bobby Jackson (3.4 million dollar contract) for a player or players making 9.8 million dollars.
This is also from last year and considering 5.4 of it is from Keon Clark, that's already expired. So probably the realgm site just hasn't been updated from last year. So more likely is that we don't have a trade exception.
It's still changes things a lot though. Firstly, it means draft picks don't count towards salary which I didn't know. They can sweeten a deal, but the salaries of the traded players still have to match. And secondly, it means the contracts don't always have to match. I still don't know when you can and can't use a trade exception, but it sounds like there's more fluidity with the salaries than I thought.
Greg Ostertag
G-League
hrdboild said:
I think part was from the Keon deal and the other from the Gerald Wallace being selected by the Bobcats. Both I think have expiried
Greg Ostertag
G-League
hrdboild said:
Well I believe the Keon deal was 2 years ago (correct me if I'm wrong). And I think they expiring like a year after the trade, so the trade was like August-September. This was before the Kings season took a turn for the worse. So don't be toooo disappointed.
hrdboild - I disagree. A trade exception is a lot like a cents off coupon. It doesn't mean anything until you actually get to the check-out stand.
Besides that, the link you posted goes to another message board with a post dated in June, 2004. I think that's probably out-dated.
Besides that, the link you posted goes to another message board with a post dated in June, 2004. I think that's probably out-dated.
Bballkingsrock
All-Star
hrdboild said:
I thought the trade exception would be 5 million. But anyway, I would just like to add that the Kings can only sign that person with the trade exception only once.
I know the link was a year old. I said that in my post.
Yeah it was before the Kings took a turn for the worse, but then they wouldn't have had to make those mid-season trades if they'd anticipated the problems a little earlier. All restrospect I guess. There was really no way to tell OTag would be a bust. The chemistry problems of last spring may not have spilled over into this season. And probably they couldn't move Webber last summer anyway because he hadn't proved he could still be a triple double threat yet. It's just that that trade exception would come in very handy right now. Oh well.
Yeah it was before the Kings took a turn for the worse, but then they wouldn't have had to make those mid-season trades if they'd anticipated the problems a little earlier. All restrospect I guess. There was really no way to tell OTag would be a bust. The chemistry problems of last spring may not have spilled over into this season. And probably they couldn't move Webber last summer anyway because he hadn't proved he could still be a triple double threat yet. It's just that that trade exception would come in very handy right now. Oh well.
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thesanityannex
Guest
TRADES
- Cuttino Mobley, Brian Skinner, Erik Daniels to Magic for Hedo Turkoglu and Doug Christie
- Kenny Thomas, Kevin Martin and 23 Overall Pick to Wizards for Kwame Brown
- Cuttino Mobley, Brian Skinner, Erik Daniels to Magic for Hedo Turkoglu and Doug Christie
- Kenny Thomas, Kevin Martin and 23 Overall Pick to Wizards for Kwame Brown
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
thesanityannex said:
You have to have real confidence in Kwame to make a move like that. It hink he's interesting, and would like to at least explore signing him outright or trading Corliss for him or whatnot. But to actually give up picks, young players etc. for him...seems too big a risk for a guy who could easily flame out.
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thesanityannex
Guest
i just pasted this trade i saw on another site. sounded interesting. i'd give up thomas and williamson for him.
do you think the first trade is possible, i bet whiny francis would love to have mobley back.
do you think the first trade is possible, i bet whiny francis would love to have mobley back.
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Greg Ostertag
G-League
Well first, Erik Daniels will not be in a Kings uniform next year..and I think the main reason we dealt Doug was because he is on the decline and has another year at around 7 mil. Plus, has some major problems with his foot.
The 2nd deal, the Wizards don't take on Kenny's contract and Corliss. I think they'd rather just let Kwame walk for nothing to be honest, then the be stuck paying Kenny close to 9 mil in 2009-2010.
The 2nd deal, the Wizards don't take on Kenny's contract and Corliss. I think they'd rather just let Kwame walk for nothing to be honest, then the be stuck paying Kenny close to 9 mil in 2009-2010.
kingraider
Prospect
Trade: Peja and Evans for Artest and Eddie Gill.
Trade: Skinner, Thomas, Williamson and Pick for Larry Hughes and Etan Thomas.
Sign: Eddie Griffin to start at PF.
Trade: Skinner, Thomas, Williamson and Pick for Larry Hughes and Etan Thomas.
Sign: Eddie Griffin to start at PF.
whozit
Starter
According to RealGM, the Kings have 5 trade exceptions. One I believe is from the loss of Wallace and it expires in June making it basically worthless. The other four are from the Webber and maybe Christie trades that are worth combined a little more than 5 mil.. They make making salaries match a little easier but will the owners take on more salary?
I hope the fear of having bad publicity by having a mediocre team as a crown jewel rather than the past good PR they receieved from owning the elite Kings will open the pocketbook.
I hope the fear of having bad publicity by having a mediocre team as a crown jewel rather than the past good PR they receieved from owning the elite Kings will open the pocketbook.
CaminoChaos
Bench
i got this idea from another thread. these are players with expiring contracts next year:
http://www.realgm.com/src_freeagents/2006/
http://www.realgm.com/src_freeagents/2006/
WalMatt23
G-League
OK, since this is the time of year to do it (and by 'it' i mean propose crazy trades), heres mine:
Three team trade:
Sacramento trades:
Mike Bibby to Orlando
Kevin Martin to Indiana
receives: Artest, Howard
why Sac does it: They need size, rebounding, and defense. They get them both.
Orlando trades:
Dwight Howard to Sacramento
Hedo Turkoglu to Indiana
receives: Bibby
why Orl does it: They need a pg since they are trying to play Francis at the 2. Jameer Nelson is OK, but Bibby would be a major upgrade for them. Plus, they would still have the #11 pick and could get some size in the draft.
Indiana trades:
Ron Artest to Sacramento
receives: Martin, Turkoglu
why Ind does it: They get artest off their hands and get turk who can play several positions. They also get Martin who has shown he has potential.
Of course this leaves a big hole at the 1 for sacramento. To fill that, I would sign Brevin Knight. He averages 10 ppg & 9 apg. He also gets 2 steals a game. IMO these moves would make Sacramento more defensive minded, but still able to score.
Sac's new line up:
Howard/Skinner/Ostertag
Miller/Thomas
Peja/Williamson
Artest/Evans (?)
Knight/Jackson
Three team trade:
Sacramento trades:
Mike Bibby to Orlando
Kevin Martin to Indiana
receives: Artest, Howard
why Sac does it: They need size, rebounding, and defense. They get them both.
Orlando trades:
Dwight Howard to Sacramento
Hedo Turkoglu to Indiana
receives: Bibby
why Orl does it: They need a pg since they are trying to play Francis at the 2. Jameer Nelson is OK, but Bibby would be a major upgrade for them. Plus, they would still have the #11 pick and could get some size in the draft.
Indiana trades:
Ron Artest to Sacramento
receives: Martin, Turkoglu
why Ind does it: They get artest off their hands and get turk who can play several positions. They also get Martin who has shown he has potential.
Of course this leaves a big hole at the 1 for sacramento. To fill that, I would sign Brevin Knight. He averages 10 ppg & 9 apg. He also gets 2 steals a game. IMO these moves would make Sacramento more defensive minded, but still able to score.
Sac's new line up:
Howard/Skinner/Ostertag
Miller/Thomas
Peja/Williamson
Artest/Evans (?)
Knight/Jackson
mbkings10
G-League
Please, these trade proposals are getting too crazy. Orlando would not trade Howard to us for Bibby, I don't care how good Bibby is, Howard has shown lots of potential and could be the next KG. Plus they have Nelson running the point. And they are also trading Turkoglu??? Orlando would not do this trade, and Indiana could get more for Artest than just Turkoglu and Martin.
ParniValjak
All-Star
Lets put it this way, I would trade ANY player on our team for Dwight Howard and yes that includes Bibby. Would Orlando do it?????? Hell no. They just got a stud out of high school thats already proved in his rookie season how much of a double double machine he was.
Dwight Howard = stud. A type of player that you potentially build the team around and they aren't going to trade that for a PG that not the best player at his position.
We can dream I suppose
We should go after Kwame Brown at a reasonable price and hope he can fulfill his potential with us because he has the ability to be 20/10 player.
Dwight Howard = stud. A type of player that you potentially build the team around and they aren't going to trade that for a PG that not the best player at his position.
We can dream I suppose
We should go after Kwame Brown at a reasonable price and hope he can fulfill his potential with us because he has the ability to be 20/10 player.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
You HEARD IT HERE FIRST!!!!
Howard will not be the next KG!!!
Howard will not be the next KG!!!
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
SacTownKid said:
But, you heard it here first (not really, you've likely heard it from many sources):
The kid is going to be a flat out stud. 12pts 10rebs 1.7blks on 52% shooting as an 18/19 yr old rookie? Heck we were all appropriately gaga over Amare putting up 13.5 8.8 and 1.1 on 47% shooting out of high school.
CaminoChaos
Bench
trade peja + miller for kg + hassell
sign hughes and ruffin
c - skinner
pf - kg
sf - hassell
sg - hughes
pg - bibby
bn - (c)o-tag, (sg)kev martin, (g)b-jax, (pf)thomas, (f)williamson, (gf)draft pick, (fc)ruffin
sign hughes and ruffin
c - skinner
pf - kg
sf - hassell
sg - hughes
pg - bibby
bn - (c)o-tag, (sg)kev martin, (g)b-jax, (pf)thomas, (f)williamson, (gf)draft pick, (fc)ruffin
BibityBobtyBoom
Bench
i would cry if that was our line up. and is that larry hughes, if so then that would be a defensive monster of a team just no points cept from bibby and kg, i like the kg but not giving away peja and miller, petrie wouldn't do it.
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