Luke Ridnour Post-Game Interview

[t-rex]

First off, I think it's lame that the Kings TV Broadcast post-game interview was Jim Gray interviewing Luke Ridnour? It would have been nice to get one of the Kings players thoughts after the game. That being said, Ridnour said that the Kings play a lot of "one-on-one basketball" . Watching the Kings on a regular basis it's obvious this is the Kings major issue and the whole league knows it and exploits it. Watching the Timberwolves passing last night reminded me of the Kings teams Adelman use to coach. Now we play "playground ball".

Keith Smart and probably Petrie need to ship out and the roster needs a major shake-up.
Problem is the Maloofs don't give a rip anymore.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

As far back as I can remember, the Kings broadcast team (G-Man, at least, can't corroborate for TV) will attempt to interview a player from the winning team, whether that's the Kings, or the other guys, so there's not anything particularly unusual about that.

As far as Ridnour's actual comments are concerned, they are true, as far as that goes, I suppose. But, I seem to care much, much less about offense than the typical Kings Fan, so I probably have a different outlook on the "evils" of iso-ball.

 

[UK_King]

A lot of their success last night was down to our poor defense.

not paying attention and allowing cut after cut after cut backdoor which hurt us big time early on, and absolutely no pressure on the bigs who just dove to the hoop time and time again, then we had that stretch where we let Schved shoot back to back threes wide open because we were trying to "gee up" the crowd.

in transition they were always a man up, I'd have to watch again to see who was slacking off.

Not taking anything away from them, their bigs do pass the ball very well, and Kevin Love is amazing but we certainly gave them a leg up.

 

[iowamcnabb]

A lot of their success last night was down to our poor defense.

not paying attention and allowing cut after cut after cut backdoor which hurt us big time early on, and absolutely no pressure on the bigs who just dove to the hoop time and time again, then we had that stretch where we let Schved shoot back to back threes wide open because we were trying to "gee up" the crowd.
in transition they were always a man up, I'd have to watch again to see who was slacking off.

Not taking anything away from them, their bigs do pass the ball very well, and Kevin Love is amazing but we certainly gave them a leg up.

Ak47 was killing us on those underneaths and also came up with some key defensive plays in the fourth. He was the difference maker for them tonight.

The lead was 3 at half time and three again with a few minutes to go so the game was there for us.

 

[Bricklayer]

Kings Starting Forwards: 12pts 5reb 2ast
Wolves Starting Forwards: 37pts 30reb 7ast

 

[Kingster]

The Kings do play a lot of one-on-one basketball, typically moreso at the end of games when they should be doing the opposite. There is no news here. They keep doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result. The Kings are losing games because of a collective lack of brain power. The opposition outsmarts them in order to win games.

 

[t-rex]

The Kings do play a lot of one-on-one basketball, typically moreso at the end of games when they should be doing the opposite. There is no news here. They keep doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result. The Kings are losing games because of a collective lack of brain power. The opposition outsmarts them in order to win games.

The Collective lack of brain power is the fault of Petrie. He put this collective lack of brain power together. He's got to go.

 

[Kingster]

The Collective lack of brain power is the fault of Petrie. He put this collective lack of brain power together. He's got to go.

Well, the buck has to stop with someone, and it certainly won't be the Maloofs...

 

[pshn80]

Doesn't look like anyone is going so Cousins is going to have to play SMARTER in the 4 th quarter IF he doesn't foul too much in the first three.

 

[bajaden]

First off, I think it's lame that the Kings TV Broadcast post-game interview was Jim Gray interviewing Luke Ridnour? It would have been nice to get one of the Kings players thoughts after the game. That being said, Ridnour said that the Kings play a lot of "one-on-one basketball" . Watching the Kings on a regular basis it's obvious this is the Kings major issue and the whole league knows it and exploits it. Watching the Timberwolves passing last night reminded me of the Kings teams Adelman use to coach. Now we play "playground ball".

Keith Smart and probably Petrie need to ship out and the roster needs a major shake-up.
Problem is the Maloofs don't give a rip anymore.

Minny was playing a motion offense, the same offense the Kings played when Adelman was the coach before. In the first quarter, the Kings played a similiar offense, and it was effective, but after that, we went to our hero offense, or Iso offense. One of the benefits of a motion offense, is that if played properly, its hard to defend. Esentially, you guard the ball, and in a motion offense, the ball is constantly moving, along with the players. If your patient, 9 out of 10 times, your going to get an open, or easy shot. Which the Wolves did. Its my belief that the motion offense, or Princeton offense was designed to break down a zone defense. Which most college teams played at the time.

On the other hand, the easiest offense to defend is an isolation defense, unless you have a Steve Nash running it. Were pretty good in transition, but not so good in the halfcourt. Once in the halfcourt, the ball usually stops with someone, and then it becomes man to man offense. Yeah, Cuz will score at times. Especially when his jumpshot is falling. But his post game is far more difficult because he's doubled almost every time. Its just much easier to defend the ball when it stops moving. Unless the ball stops in the hands of Wade, Kobe, Lebron, Durant, etc. When last I checked, I didn't see any of those names on our roster.

 

[UK_King]

on this crucial crucial play where we got good penetration from Tyreke Cuz decided to go one on four instead an easy pass to Salmons or a drop off to Tyreke, he also has a skip pass to a wide open MT.

 

[Npliam]

Minny was playing a motion offense, the same offense the Kings played when Adelman was the coach before. In the first quarter, the Kings played a similiar offense, and it was effective, but after that, we went to our hero offense, or Iso offense. One of the benefits of a motion offense, is that if played properly, its hard to defend. Esentially, you guard the ball, and in a motion offense, the ball is constantly moving, along with the players. If your patient, 9 out of 10 times, your going to get an open, or easy shot. Which the Wolves did. Its my belief that the motion offense, or Princeton offense was designed to break down a zone defense. Which most college teams played at the time.

On the other hand, the easiest offense to defend is an isolation defense, unless you have a Steve Nash running it. Were pretty good in transition, but not so good in the halfcourt. Once in the halfcourt, the ball usually stops with someone, and then it becomes man to man offense. Yeah, Cuz will score at times. Especially when his jumpshot is falling. But his post game is far more difficult because he's doubled almost every time. Its just much easier to defend the ball when it stops moving. Unless the ball stops in the hands of Wade, Kobe, Lebron, Durant, etc. When last I checked, I didn't see any of those names on our roster.

The motion offense works very well but in order for it work you have to have players that will move the ball in order to get a better shot. Players have to be willing to give up a good shot for themselves for a better shot for their team mates. It is also harder to call a play for a specific player so guys just end up shooting it the first time it comes to them.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

on this crucial crucial play where we got good penetration from Tyreke Cuz decided to go one on four instead an easy pass to Salmons or a drop off to Tyreke, he also has a skip pass to a wide open MT.

yup look at salmons and thornton WIDE OPEN for 3s, and Tyreke open for a easy shot as well. Cuz makes horrible decisions down the stretch of games, its no secret

and this was yet another case of Cuz going up soft at the basket. he does it all game every game and its annoying to watch. he needs to do what he did on that dunk over Favors on EVERY PLAY. go up strong like shaq

 

[Kingsguy881]

Face it guys, we just plain suck. We have a lot of talent, and no discipline (coaching). We stuck with a zone defense while Minny spread the floor, popping Love out for 3's at the top and cutters coming from the wing and we made no adjustments (coaching). We did not make the adjustment offensively when they doubled Cuz in the post, he was not made aware (coaching) that Kirilenko constantly sagged onto him when he got to the low block and that there were wing players open for good looks.

Adelman made Smart look Dumb.

Oh, my bad, I forgot the rotations! Going small, Salmons, Reke, IT Thornton and Cousins just KILLED us. The lineup to close the game should have been Reke/Thornton/Salmons/JT/Cuz. MATCH THE F UP SMART!!!! His Nelly crap is SLAUGHTERING us in the post. And the fact he never brought JT back was pure stupidity.

 

[beb0p]

What Ridnour said is absolutely true. No argument there.

Out of curiosity, in the first game against Utah, I started counting how many times the Kings crossed half court (in a half court offense) and made one pass or fewer before someone went one on one (or two or three) and launched a shot. I counted 12 times... and I only started watching mid way thru the 2nd quarter. When you exclude the fast breaks, it translate to roughly more than 50% of the half court offense consists of one-on-one basketball with virtually no ball movement. Almost all of those shots that they ended up taking are tough shots. Four times, the players who dribbled up court never bothered to make passes before launching shots (Thornton and Jimmer).

One possession especially irked me - IT started setting up the offense with 18 secs on the clock, he made the pass to Salmons; who just hold it for five secs and then started a meaningless side to side dribble to waste more time (exactly what every young players were caught not to do, let alone a pro) and with about 5 secs left on the clock, Salmons was like "oh crap, I better shoot." and proceeded to fire away a tough contested jump shot that was lucky to hit rim. When your #4 option is ball-hogging one-v-one like Kobe, it's a big problem.

In a game where the Kings lost by only 2, these things mattered.

On the flip side, when the Kings do move the ball, they generally get a good shot.

 

[bajaden]

One final thing I wanted to say, was in reference to Smarts comment that he wants to give the players the freedom on offense. That works well if you have a team made up of veteran players, but when you have a young team, its a recipe for disastor. There has to be a plan. You just can't give the ball to them and expect them to make good decisons all the time. I mean, what the hell is a coach for?

 

[bajaden]

The motion offense works very well but in order for it work you have to have players that will move the ball in order to get a better shot. Players have to be willing to give up a good shot for themselves for a better shot for their team mates. It is also harder to call a play for a specific player so guys just end up shooting it the first time it comes to them.

Well, of course the players have to commit to the offense. But thats the coaches job. If a player doesn't do as he's susposed to, he can watch from the bench. Its nonsense to believe that you can't get players to do what their susposed to do. Take any of these players an put them on Pop's team and see how long they do only what they want. Most players want to win. Yeah, there are your selfish players in the league, but by and large, most players are willing to buy into a offense and run it if you can convince them it'll work. I think just showing them last nights game would be effective. They won, and we lost! And, here's why!

As far calling a play for a particular player, you can still do that in a motion offense. Its just that the play is susposed to get that player an open shot, or a easy play at the basket. You have your first option, your second option and so on. You keep moving the ball until one of the options come open. It requires patience on the part of the players, but they're usually rewarded in the end. Now there are times when nothing comes open, and then you want the ball in the hands of someone that can create on his own in a short period of time. However, if your just shooting the ball the first time it comes to you, your not running the offense, and on my team, you'd find yourself aquiring splinters on the bench.

One terrible play in last nights game came just before the end of the first half. Thornton had the ball on what was a fast break in him mind. Unfortunately there were only around 25 seconds left in the half. Obviously, you stop, regroup, and hold the ball for the final shot. I don't know what was running through Thorntons mind, but it was the wrong thing. He pulled up for a three point shot with 23 seconds left on the clock, and missed. Fortunately, we got the ball back. But thats the kind of mentality that has to stop. It was just plain stupid! And thats how you lose games, by doing stupid things, playing against teams that are doing smart things.

By the way, I was a Kevin Love fan coming out of college. And I have to admit, I thought he would be good, but not this good. But for all those that just saw and undersized, slow, can't jump, white dude, SKILLS, DESIRE, BASKETBALL IQ, AND HARD WORK MATTER! You have a susposed undersized, slow, can't jump, white dude out playing players that are taller, quicker, and that jump higher. So let me ask you. Who would you rather have on your team, Dwight Howard, or Kevin Love. Its a tough question if you really think it through. Would the Lakers be better if they had Gasol at center, and Love at PF, instead of what they have now?

 

[mac]

Well, of course the players have to commit to the offense. But thats the coaches job. If a player doesn't do as he's susposed to, he can watch from the bench. Its nonsense to believe that you can't get players to do what their susposed to do. Take any of these players an put them on Pop's team and see how long they do only what they want. Most players want to win. Yeah, there are your selfish players in the league, but by and large, most players are willing to buy into a offense and run it if you can convince them it'll work. I think just showing them last nights game would be effective. They won, and we lost! And, here's why!

As far calling a play for a particular player, you can still do that in a motion offense. Its just that the play is susposed to get that player an open shot, or a easy play at the basket. You have your first option, your second option and so on. You keep moving the ball until one of the options come open. It requires patience on the part of the players, but they're usually rewarded in the end. Now there are times when nothing comes open, and then you want the ball in the hands of someone that can create on his own in a short period of time. However, if your just shooting the ball the first time it comes to you, your not running the offense, and on my team, you'd find yourself aquiring splinters on the bench.

One terrible play in last nights game came just before the end of the first half. Thornton had the ball on what was a fast break in him mind. Unfortunately there were only around 25 seconds left in the half. Obviously, you stop, regroup, and hold the ball for the final shot. I don't know what was running through Thorntons mind, but it was the wrong thing. He pulled up for a three point shot with 23 seconds left on the clock, and missed. Fortunately, we got the ball back. But thats the kind of mentality that has to stop. It was just plain stupid! And thats how you lose games, by doing stupid things, playing against teams that are doing smart things.

By the way, I was a Kevin Love fan coming out of college. And I have to admit, I thought he would be good, but not this good. But for all those that just saw and undersized, slow, can't jump, white dude, SKILLS, DESIRE, BASKETBALL IQ, AND HARD WORK MATTER! You have a susposed undersized, slow, can't jump, white dude out playing players that are taller, quicker, and that jump higher. So let me ask you. Who would you rather have on your team, Dwight Howard, or Kevin Love. Its a tough question if you really think it through. Would the Lakers be better if they had Gasol at center, and Love at PF, instead of what they have now?

I know I'd rather have Love on our team. His 3 point shooting alone would spread the floor so much more for Evans and Cousins, and we'd be a lot better on the defensive boards too.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

A stretch 4? Ugh.

But, then again, if that's the trade-off you get for a guy who gets you 25/15, I suppose you have to take the bitter with the sweet...

 

[PurpleHaze]

I believe actual Ridnour quote was, "the Kings have a lot of great one-on-one players." It was in midst of the interview and sly way he said it was a dig at Kings and their losing style - no chemistry, no plays, no consistency, crunch time confusion. Playing just the opposite, Minnesota took full advantage to snap a 5 game losing skid.

 

[Bricklayer]

I believe actual Ridnour quote was, "the Kings have a lot of great one-on-one players." It was in midst of the interview and sly way he said it was a dig at Kings and their losing style - no chemistry, no plays, no consistency, crunch time confusion. Playing just the opposite, Minnesota took full advantage to snap a 5 game losing skid.

Given that Ridnour had played on I think 2 winning teams in 9 years in the league, he's not exactly this great veteran winner to be dispensing words of wisdom on how to win in this league.

 

[kingsnation]

Given that Ridnour had played on I think 2 winning teams in 9 years in the league, he's not exactly this great veteran winner to be dispensing words of wisdom on how to win in this league.

True.

But our team makes Ridnour look like Mike Bibby in his prime.

 

[Kingster]

Well, of course the players have to commit to the offense. But thats the coaches job. If a player doesn't do as he's susposed to, he can watch from the bench. Its nonsense to believe that you can't get players to do what their susposed to do. Take any of these players an put them on Pop's team and see how long they do only what they want. Most players want to win. Yeah, there are your selfish players in the league, but by and large, most players are willing to buy into a offense and run it if you can convince them it'll work. I think just showing them last nights game would be effective. They won, and we lost! And, here's why!

As far calling a play for a particular player, you can still do that in a motion offense. Its just that the play is susposed to get that player an open shot, or a easy play at the basket. You have your first option, your second option and so on. You keep moving the ball until one of the options come open. It requires patience on the part of the players, but they're usually rewarded in the end. Now there are times when nothing comes open, and then you want the ball in the hands of someone that can create on his own in a short period of time. However, if your just shooting the ball the first time it comes to you, your not running the offense, and on my team, you'd find yourself aquiring splinters on the bench.

One terrible play in last nights game came just before the end of the first half. Thornton had the ball on what was a fast break in him mind. Unfortunately there were only around 25 seconds left in the half. Obviously, you stop, regroup, and hold the ball for the final shot. I don't know what was running through Thorntons mind, but it was the wrong thing. He pulled up for a three point shot with 23 seconds left on the clock, and missed. Fortunately, we got the ball back. But thats the kind of mentality that has to stop. It was just plain stupid! And thats how you lose games, by doing stupid things, playing against teams that are doing smart things.

By the way, I was a Kevin Love fan coming out of college. And I have to admit, I thought he would be good, but not this good. But for all those that just saw and undersized, slow, can't jump, white dude, SKILLS, DESIRE, BASKETBALL IQ, AND HARD WORK MATTER! You have a susposed undersized, slow, can't jump, white dude out playing players that are taller, quicker, and that jump higher. So let me ask you. Who would you rather have on your team, Dwight Howard, or Kevin Love. Its a tough question if you really think it through. Would the Lakers be better if they had Gasol at center, and Love at PF, instead of what they have now?

Couldn't agree more. And I'd take Love over Howard simply because down the stretch Love can shoot free throws. That gives him the edge. Howard is definitely better defensively, but offensively Love is light years ahead of Howard. What nobody knew with Love is what he could look like if he took off several pounds after engaging in a major work out program.

Kings couldn't win in this game. Man to man didn't work because the Kings don't box out and Love loves that. Zone definitely doesn't work for an offensive rebounder like Love. He killed the Kings down the stretch with a key rebound and offensive putback and on another play where he just manhandled Salmons out of the way for an easy layup. I just can't believe that Thompson and Cousins box out as little as they do. It's just mind-boggling. They are facing the best rebounder in the game and they can't put a body on the guy every single time?