Kings trading pick!
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Well, you couldn't F it up more if you tried. I see gunners galore on this team - Thornton, Jimmer, Salmons, Tyreke. But where are the facilitators? Cousins?
I wasn't Beno's greatest fan because of his defensive weakness and he just wasn't all that quick, but he did know what it meant to share the ball, and he would sacrifice scoring to get his teamates involved so that they could possibly win the game. But now? Wow. I'm not saying Jimmer is selfish. I'm just saying that facilitation of others is definitely not his strength - it's bombs away for him. Thornton? The same. Tyreke? For him, it's dribble away, and now his twin, John Salmons, well, those guys are going to vie for the dribble, dribble, dribble contest. Someone has got count to count the dribbles of those two guys to see who wins. And to think that this team's greatest weakness was assist/turnovers last year. I'm starting to miss Beno already...
I wasn't Beno's greatest fan because of his defensive weakness and he just wasn't all that quick, but he did know what it meant to share the ball, and he would sacrifice scoring to get his teamates involved so that they could possibly win the game. But now? Wow. I'm not saying Jimmer is selfish. I'm just saying that facilitation of others is definitely not his strength - it's bombs away for him. Thornton? The same. Tyreke? For him, it's dribble away, and now his twin, John Salmons, well, those guys are going to vie for the dribble, dribble, dribble contest. Someone has got count to count the dribbles of those two guys to see who wins. And to think that this team's greatest weakness was assist/turnovers last year. I'm starting to miss Beno already...
This offseason was one where Petrie had a chance to make major moves and catapult this team into the "young up and comer" and soon after "contender" status. Two young studs to build around, some nice complimentary pieces, 7th pick in the draft and a boatload of caproom. Everything he could want to strengthen the roster.
So far he's only made this team worse than the one that finished the season. Jimmer DOES have a high bust factor, but even if he pans out he won't contribute as much his rookie season as Beno would have and Salmons is about the worst fit I could think of for this team.
I haven't stopped shaking my head for about two hours now.
So far he's only made this team worse than the one that finished the season. Jimmer DOES have a high bust factor, but even if he pans out he won't contribute as much his rookie season as Beno would have and Salmons is about the worst fit I could think of for this team.
I haven't stopped shaking my head for about two hours now.
I agree with the first part of this. I also think Salmons is better than any other SF we have. So we upgraded two positions because we wanted a three point shooter which Beno was not. The big question for all of us is if Salmons is better than the free agents we could have gone after this summer. Wow, I'm not so sure. A few years of an aging Battier would have been safer.
Does Petrie do surprising things just to keep our heat beating? This has been an odd day. I will hang Petrie in effigy only after the turn of next year or 20 games into the season, whichever comes first. This day was risky but I can understand filling the two needs of the team. A lot of people will disagree with me of course but I don't think the world has come to an end.
Does Petrie do surprising things just to keep our heat beating? This has been an odd day. I will hang Petrie in effigy only after the turn of next year or 20 games into the season, whichever comes first. This day was risky but I can understand filling the two needs of the team. A lot of people will disagree with me of course but I don't think the world has come to an end.
Well let's see. So far he added a defensive SF that can shoot, moved Beno to preserve cap space, and picked a player many fans wanted anyways in the draft. I don't see how any of those moves makes the team worse. Furthermore, it's way to premature to rate the off season moves at this point. The Kings still have a ton of cap space and we have no clue who it will be spent on. Since I don't have a crystal ball like some of y'all do, I'm going to go ahead and wait and see how things play out over the summer and next year before I declare this off season a disaster.
This has nothing to do with Jimmer for me. We traded Beno so we could bring in Jimmer, not a fan of that tradeoff, but fine. I can live with it.
The fact that we got back Salmons and his contract .. thats the part that really kills me.
This team needs vets, yes, good team oriented veterans. Not pouty entitled veterans. Salmons is the latter.
The fact that we got back Salmons and his contract .. thats the part that really kills me.
This team needs vets, yes, good team oriented veterans. Not pouty entitled veterans. Salmons is the latter.
I think it's a bit premature to be calling Petrie's head at this time.
Actually, I like the move. As far as I see it, it's actually a good swap considering that Salmons is paid only a million dollar over Beno. So almost nothing is wasted of the cap space since #10 is actually paid lower than #7. So? we can still a sign legit free agents.
And even if we stayed at #7, we'll still be getting a PG, be it Knight, Kemba, Jimmer. This means Beno still has to go.
Jimmer has great media attention which would put Sac back to at least more ESPN coverage. More fans would come to games and what more can we ask for a franchise that almost packed it's bag out of Sac?
The way I see it, we added Salmons who is actually a SG to fortify our guard rotation. And we got Jimmer to spread the floor. Jimmer-Salmons-Thornton-Evans combo can all compliment each other better than Jimmer/Kemba/Knight-Beno-Thornton-Evans will.
I still expect us to sign a vet SF and Sammy and probably another big in a trade.
Actually, I like the move. As far as I see it, it's actually a good swap considering that Salmons is paid only a million dollar over Beno. So almost nothing is wasted of the cap space since #10 is actually paid lower than #7. So? we can still a sign legit free agents.
And even if we stayed at #7, we'll still be getting a PG, be it Knight, Kemba, Jimmer. This means Beno still has to go.
Jimmer has great media attention which would put Sac back to at least more ESPN coverage. More fans would come to games and what more can we ask for a franchise that almost packed it's bag out of Sac?
The way I see it, we added Salmons who is actually a SG to fortify our guard rotation. And we got Jimmer to spread the floor. Jimmer-Salmons-Thornton-Evans combo can all compliment each other better than Jimmer/Kemba/Knight-Beno-Thornton-Evans will.
I still expect us to sign a vet SF and Sammy and probably another big in a trade.
I said it earlier, I'll say it again -- IF we can jsut arrange to give John Salmons a lobotomy so that he no longer acts/thinks like John Salmons, the skill package there is not too far off what we have been saying we need. Now the rebounding is pathetic if he's the SF. Combined with Cisco and Donte it might be the worst set of rebounders at SF in league history. But otherwise you have these skills:
1) can shoot the three
2) very good man defender
3) guard skills, can bring the ball up
4) good out on the break
which...that's virtually a what's what list of al the things we have been talking about needing out of a SF. Unfortunately it comes attached to:
1) big, long term unmoveable contract
2) mopey, whiny me first attitude
3) ball pounding blackhole on the court who has always confused hsi place on the totem poll.
If you could somehow get through to him, or maybe easier just drill a hole in his head and turn his brains inot a frappe, he's got the skills to fit if he jsut backed off and concentrated on defense, spot shooting, and occasionally bringing the ball up and facilitating. In short we need to get Doug back here sans the wacky wife to whisper in his ear, and whisper some more. And if he whispers long enough...ah who am I kidding. Its John Salmons. The king of passive aggressive behavior.
1) can shoot the three
2) very good man defender
3) guard skills, can bring the ball up
4) good out on the break
which...that's virtually a what's what list of al the things we have been talking about needing out of a SF. Unfortunately it comes attached to:
1) big, long term unmoveable contract
2) mopey, whiny me first attitude
3) ball pounding blackhole on the court who has always confused hsi place on the totem poll.
If you could somehow get through to him, or maybe easier just drill a hole in his head and turn his brains inot a frappe, he's got the skills to fit if he jsut backed off and concentrated on defense, spot shooting, and occasionally bringing the ball up and facilitating. In short we need to get Doug back here sans the wacky wife to whisper in his ear, and whisper some more. And if he whispers long enough...ah who am I kidding. Its John Salmons. The king of passive aggressive behavior.
I like the Jimmer pick and I think he will be just fine. But Salmons does not make sense to me. I just don't think Salmons is ready to play that Bowen/Christie type roll. I've listened to the spin artists on the radio and none of them are describing the dark side of Salmons that we know is there. And add to the fact he's a big contract on a 32 year old player. I'm praying they have a chance to move him on.
Just don't get the trade. Why get Salmons back? Now we have 2 dominate ball handling players in Evan and Salmons...or maybe 3...Thornton. Just not a happy Kings fan. Don't they understand the Kings are on a 1 year lease....we need to start winning. I feel we just took a couple step backwards. I sure hope I am wrong.
Judging from what the Milwaukee papers have to say about him, it's far too much to hope for.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/124460223.html
Key Line(s):
"John Hammond has pretty good at making the bad paper he interited go away."
"John Salmons, which was a very bad move. Salmons got paid and checked out. Gone."
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/124460223.html
Key Line(s):
"John Hammond has pretty good at making the bad paper he interited go away."
"John Salmons, which was a very bad move. Salmons got paid and checked out. Gone."
