[Game] Kings @ Suns Game Thread, 3/4/2012, 5 P.M.Pacific

[TheWileyVet]

I HATE when we interview players from the other team

 

[rainmaker]

The starters sit out for so long because their defensive play is nearly non-existent.

It was a close game with our starters in. It didn't get blown open and our defense abused until the bench came in.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Final score: Phoenix Capitalist Pigs 96, Sacramento Comrades 88. Tomorrow we break out our new red alternates.

 

[cuad]

It's weird how they interview players from the other team. Guess they figure it's the only way to make Jim Gray work before firing him.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

When did this 'starters don't play the 4th quarter' BS start? Smart wasn't doing this earlier when he had just taken over. Its dumb. They need to be in there from 8 minutes through the rest of the game.

 

[kingjatt]

a lil late to put MT in?

 

[Npliam]

Looking at the box score all of the starters had more shots than points. That is really, really bad.

 

[Kings Faithful]

I'm so tired of losing. When will the front office do their share in making this team better? As fans we've been more than patient and after all these years were still losing to teams like this. We can celebrate all we want when we beat the top teams in the league a few times each year, but when we lose to garbage night after night those wins are good for nothing.

 

[bajaden]

I HATE when we interview players from the other team

Actually, I enjoyed that interview. Nash is a very savy player and I can see him being a headcoach someday. Hey, maybe we can sign him now!

 

[Nighthawk1]

How can Jimmer develop as a PG when he enters the game John Salmons becomes the primary ball handler? The kid isn't bad, but I don't think he's ever been put in position to succeed.

 

[kingjatt]

I'm so tired of losing. When will the front office do their share in making this team better? As fans we've been more than patient and after all these years were still losing to teams like this. We can celebrate all we want when we beat the top teams in the league a few times each year, but when we lose to garbage night after night those wins are good for nothing.

I agree. its not like we wont support the team, if we even had an 8 seed team the building would be sold out everynight, if the maloofs spend, we will come, they know this but they want to have the lowest payroll with sellouts everynight, what the FO needs to realize is yes were loyal, but were not stupid.

 

[swisshh]

How can Jimmer develop as a PG when he enters the game John Salmons becomes the primary ball handler? The kid isn't bad, but I don't think he's ever been put in position to succeed.

His ball handling is so troublesome at this point that you can't trust him being the main ball handler. Everytime he gets a bit of pressure he backs out and calls for a screen. It wastes clock. He needs to be able to get past his man if they are overplaying him.

 

[Bricklayer]

I'm so tired of losing. When will the front office do their share in making this team better? As fans we've been more than patient and after all these years were still losing to teams like this. We can celebrate all we want when we beat the top teams in the league a few times each year, but when we lose to garbage night after night those wins are good for nothing.

It comes with the extreme youth. I would hazard what is likely a very accurate guess that there had never been a team as young as ours with a wining record in the history of the NBA. Think about that.

And yes it is time to win. And the front office...I think they wanted to this year, and just failed. And I think they HAVE to next year . And part of that is they are goign to HAVE to find a way to get some quality vets in there to support the main kids. The kids will grow up, that laone will get us better if we jsut finally quit adding every more youth behind them. But we need some veteran catalysts and stability in the worst way.

 

[Spike]

Can we please go back to Reke/MT/JT/Cuz starting lineup with Donte since he's now up for playing Donte? IT as 6th. The Reke/MT/salmons/JT/Cuz lineup was 5-1 at one point in Feb. They beat OKC, SA and Por. How is this better?

Yeah, but the offense "runs better"...

 

[Sac.Kings]

It comes with the extreme youth. I would hazard what is likely a very accurate guess that there had never been a team as young as ours with a wining record in the history of the NBA. Think about that.

And yes it is time to win. And the front office...I think they wanted to this year, and just failed. And I think they HAVE to next year . And part of that is they are goign to HAVE to find a way to get some quality vets in there to support the main kids. The kids will grow up, that laone will get us better if we jsut finally quit adding every more youth behind them. But we need some veteran catalysts and stability in the worst way.

Average Age Thunder: 25.4 (leads the western conference)*
Average Age Kings: 24.7 (sweeps dirt in the basement every year)

* the thunder were even younger last year when they went to the western conference finals...

 

[Bricklayer]

Average Age Thunder: 25.4 (leads the western conference)*
Average Age Kings: 24.7 (sweeps dirt in the basement every year)

* the thunder were even younger last year when they went to the western conference finals...

Its a rather solitary example, and even still one that fits the parameters.

 

[Tetsujin]

His ball handling is so troublesome at this point that you can't trust him being the main ball handler. Everytime he gets a bit of pressure he backs out and calls for a screen. It wastes clock. He needs to be able to get past his man if they are overplaying him.

This

 

[Tetsujin]

Average Age Thunder: 25.4 (leads the western conference)**
Average Age Kings: 24.7 (sweeps dirt in the basement every year)

* the thunder were even younger last year when they went to the western conference finals...

**Completely different situation than the Kings.

 

[Sac.Kings]

**Completely different situation than the Kings.

It was the first one that came to mind, but I fail to see how it is different? Age is age, is it not?

 

[Tetsujin]

It was the first one that came to mind, but I fail to see how it is different? Age is age, is it not?

So we're just going to pretend that all coaches are equal then, that OKC didn't ride that new city high to a few extra wins that first year they snuck into the playoffs?

Getting into the playoffs for the first time is a hard task. After that, for whatever reason, things get easier.

 

[Mad D]

Don't worry, on average a rebuilding a team takes six to eight seasons to be competitive. So depending on your view of when the Kings started to rebuild the team should be good in two, or possibly four seasons!

 

[rainmaker]

It was the first one that came to mind, but I fail to see how it is different? Age is age, is it not?

I'd argue 3 years coached by Scott Brooks is a hell of a lot better for development than a Westy/Smart combo. Is every 12 year old the same in the classroom, or does teaching/school/environment come into play?

 

[Tetsujin]

I'd argue 3 years coached by Scott Brooks is a hell of a lot better for development than a Westy/Smart combo. Is every 12 year old the same in the classroom, or does teaching/school/environment come into play?

Is a 40 year old without legs going to run as fast as a 40 year old Olympic Sprinter? They're both the same age so I don't see why not.

 

[rainmaker]

Is a 40 year old without legs going to run as fast as a 40 year old Olympic Sprinter? They're both the same age so I don't see why not.

It's to the point we're almost doing an injustice to other organizations by comparing ourselves to them.

 

[Sac.Kings]

So we're just going to pretend that all coaches are equal then, that OKC didn't ride that new city high to a few extra wins that first year they snuck into the playoffs?

Getting into the playoffs for the first time is a hard task. After that, for whatever reason, things get easier.

The only criteria Bricklayer laid out was age, and that is the sole emphasis of my statement. Sure they had plenty of reason to be on a high note that season, but we just got wind that Sac-town is getting a new arena, and this is how we play? It can go both ways as well. The coaching assessment is correct, and sadly it is not even close.

 

[Sac.Kings]

I'd argue 3 years coached by Scott Brooks is a hell of a lot better for development than a Westy/Smart combo. Is every 12 year old the same in the classroom, or does teaching/school/environment come into play?

I agree with you guys, I am simply stating that yes, young teams can indeed win. Sure, they may be rare, but it is possible.

Tetsujin: These are NBA professional athletes.. top of the class.. what have you. They share similar characteristics at similar ages. Everyone has about the same peak in playing ability (prime), and each declines at about the same age. There are exceptions of course.

 

[mac]

I agree with you guys, I am simply stating that yes, young teams can indeed win. Sure, they may be rare, but it is possible.

Tetsujin: These are NBA professional athletes.. top of the class.. what have you. They share similar characteristics at similar ages. Everyone has about the same peak in playing ability (prime), and each declines at about the same age. There are exceptions of course.

Having that Durant fella wouldn't hurt either.

 

[xrzn]

Having that Durant fella wouldn't hurt either.

Knowing Smart he'd play him at PF/C

 

[rainmaker]

I agree with you guys, I am simply stating that yes, young teams can indeed win. Sure, they may be rare, but it is possible.

Fair enough.

 

[rainmaker]

Knowing Smart he'd play him at PF/C

And then bench him for the 4th after Salmons hits a couple jumpers.