[Game] Kings at Warriors, 2/3/2022, 10pm ET/7pm PT

[SLAB]

Their commentators are unbearable. I have no clue why I haven’t turned sound off.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

What I don’t understand is when fox and ty start and one has a bad game, it’s cuz they can’t work together and will never work. Ty and davion start and one of them has a bad game…trade fox, davion and ty are the future!

Is your idea to keep all three point guards?

 

[SLAB]

Man, these dancers have nothing on Old Chair Man, Red Fox, or Coolio.

 

[kingsboi]

Their commentators are unbearable. I have no clue why I haven’t turned sound off.

maybe you just like to post your disdain about anything Warrior related on this forum?

 

[Tetsujin]

Their commentators are unbearable. I have no clue why I haven’t turned sound off.

Bob Fitzgerald is probably the worst announcer in pro sports and it's crazy that a town full of generally solid to absolutely legendary sports broadcasters like the Bay Area (Jon Miller, Kruk and Kuip, Ken Korach, Glen Kuiper, Greg Papa) is somehow okay with him calling 90 games of the most successful franchise in the region every year.

 

[kb02]

Watching the dubs broadcast and they had one instance where the dubs passed up 4 open shots. Then Damion Lee gets the ball at the elbow, dribbles to the perimeter and makes a three. Kings defensive shape is a joke and man, it’s infectious when you have a team that shares the ball. Buddy looks like he’s 40 yrs old and Holmes is getting out worked by Warriors wings and bigs. Just trade everyone already, Monte.

 

[SacTownKid]

Watching the dubs broadcast and they had one instance where the dubs passed up 4 open shots. Then Damion Lee gets the ball at the elbow, dribbles to the perimeter and makes a three. Kings defensive shape is a joke and man, it’s infectious when you have a team that shares the ball. Buddy looks like he’s 40 yrs old and Holmes is getting out worked by Warriors wings and bigs. Just trade everyone already, Monte.

The Kings share the ball, it's who they eventually share it to that's the problem.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Only four players scored for the Kings in the first half.

 

[steelevt]

Is your idea to keep all three point guards?

I wanted to draft a wing. But now that we have all 3, rotate the 3 and get rid of buddy. But that’s beside the point. I just want to know why when the situations are the same, the outcry is different. Ty or fox have a bad game, it’s cuz they can’t play together. Ty or davion have a bad game, they are the future. It’s not like we are on a win streak when they start or anything. Maybe, just maybe, the issue isn’t fox/ty/davion.

 

[kb02]

The Kings share the ball, it's who they eventually share it to that's the problem.

One pass, maybe two passes at most per possession is a far cry from 3 to 4 passes and teammates setting double screens and then resetting it.

 

[The_Jamal]

Buddy:

14:51 minutes

0 points (0-4)
1 assist
2 rebounds

$20 mil hard at work.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

I wanted to draft a wing. But now that we have all 3, rotate the 3 and get rid of buddy. But that’s beside the point. I just want to know why when the situations are the same, the outcry is different. Ty or fox have a bad game, it’s cuz they can’t play together. Ty or davion have a bad game, they are the future. It’s not like we are on a win streak when they start or anything. Maybe, just maybe, the issue isn’t fox/ty/davion.

The thought is to at least look for a better fitting lineup. If you find it, then great. You have to at least consider it, if you're a GM trying to do your job

 

[The_Jamal]

Watching the dubs broadcast and they had one instance where the dubs passed up 4 open shots. Then Damion Lee gets the ball at the elbow, dribbles to the perimeter and makes a three. Kings defensive shape is a joke and man, it’s infectious when you have a team that shares the ball. Buddy looks like he’s 40 yrs old and Holmes is getting out worked by Warriors wings and bigs. Just trade everyone already, Monte.

Everyone making money looks beyond checked out. I just don't see how you look at this and think we're anywhere close to being a play-off team.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Everyone making money looks beyond checked out. I just don't see how you look at this and think we're anywhere close to being a play-off team.

Which is why even good young players should be available, for a better fitting return

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Which is why even good young players should be available, for a better fitting return

It seems to me that "fit" depends on the core players. Why not have the core be the good, young, inexpensive players, and build around them?

 

[Dongoodboy]

To think of it, Warriors has Curry, Klay, Wiggins and Green for the present and Poole, Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody in the line. Compare to us it is an astounding difference on talent level. Honestly it is hard to be so bad lol

 

[The_Jamal]

Nice Davion drive and kick.

This really isn't fair to ask him to shoulder all the offensive load and the expect to check Curry on the other side. Hali needs to step up.

 

[The_Jamal]

The thought is to at least look for a better fitting lineup. If you find it, then great. You have to at least consider it, if you're a GM trying to do your job

Fit should never be a concern when you're a bad team. Only talent.

 

[The_Jamal]

Also Davion just clowning the Warriors defense is hilarious. They gobble up everybody (#1 in def rating by 1.7) and he's mincing them up.

 

[SacTownKid]

One pass, maybe two passes at most per possession is a far cry from 3 to 4 passes and teammates setting double screens and then resetting it.

The Kings don't have the shooting to be able to do much. Most of the last 3 years they've had Bagley/Holmes out there to spread. Teams are just going to sink into the same passing lanes.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

It seems to me that "fit" depends on the core players. Why not have the core be the good, young, inexpensive players, and build around them?

Makes sense. There's also the option of acquiring good inexpensive players by trade. Again, if you can build a better fitting unit

 

[SacTownKid]

The Warriors are starting to drop on Haliburtons pick and roll but he looks worn down a bit. Even the floaters are short.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Fit should never be a concern when you're a bad team. Only talent.

Have to disagree. You'll never build a winning culture, without having a good enough fit to start approaching a .500 record

 

[SacTownKid]

Everyone making money looks beyond checked out. I just don't see how you look at this and think we're anywhere close to being a play-off team.

They are, almost every one of them thinks they'll be gone in a few days. Monte is right where he belongs, between a rock and a hard place.

 

[SacTownKid]

Have to disagree. You'll never build a winning culture, without having a good enough fit to start approaching a .500 record

I disagree as well, evidenced by the Kings positional stacking throughout the years and players being good potentially but never being able to show it. After a few lottery picks you have to start building a team otherwise rookie deals turn into maxes or lost talent.

 

[The_Jamal]

Have to disagree. You'll never build a winning culture, without having a good enough fit to start approaching a .500 record

Wins come with talent. Luka, Trae, JJJ, Ayton, Ja, Zion, Evan Mobley, LaMelo Ball. Once you have 1-3 of those guys, that's when you start caring about fit around them.

A perfectly fitting 39 win team doesn't make sense. You need that talent upside for fit to matter.

 

[SacTownKid]

Wins come with talent. Luka, Trae, JJJ, Ayton, Ja, Zion, Evan Mobley, LaMelo Ball. Once you have 1-3 of those guys, that's when you start caring about fit around them.

A perfectly fitting 39 win team doesn't make sense. You need that talent upside for fit to matter.

Those teams didn't position stack though. Did the Hawks draft 2 PG's around Trae? Guess what Phoenix did? They drafted a production big instead of Tyrese when they already had Ayton. Whoops. Once you have a hit it out of the park talent, then you make moves around that.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Wins come with talent. Luka, Trae, JJJ, Ayton, Ja, Zion, Evan Mobley, LaMelo Ball. Once you have 1-3 of those guys, that's when you start caring about fit around them.

A perfectly fitting 39 win team doesn't make sense. You need that talent upside for fit to matter.

Again, I don't trade anyone, unless I'm convinced that what is coming back, gives us a better chance of building a contender

 

[The_Jamal]

I actually don't think Davion can play better. He's super impactful on both ends and is making Steph's night about as uncomfortable as he can get.

 

[steelevt]

The thought is to at least look for a better fitting lineup. If you find it, then great. You have to at least consider it, if you're a GM trying to do your job

Losing 5 of our last 6 and about to lose 6 outta 7. I don’t think we are finding anything different except maybe fox/ty/davion might not be the problem. I just don’t see the big upgrade from fox/ty to davion/ty, especially from the fox and ty will never work together crowd. My argument isn’t if one combo is better than the other, it’s the fact that the situation is the same but people see it differently. Let’s say Fox and ty start 3 games and lose. In each game fox scores 30+ and ty shoots 3/10. The argument is they can’t work together. Now imagine davion and ty start 3 games and lose all 3. In each game davion scores 30 and the ty shoots 3/10. I’d bet not a peep about chemistry. That’s all I’m saying.