Jason Thompson!
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Nash for sure in The Club.
Iverson is just too much of a combo guard for The Club but I might put him give him Associate Membership
Payton is about in the Jason Kidd class so he gets in as an Associate.
Udrih... the jury is still out - way out somewhere
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Ok, enough - back to all about JT
Iverson is just too much of a combo guard for The Club but I might put him give him Associate Membership
Payton is about in the Jason Kidd class so he gets in as an Associate.
Udrih... the jury is still out - way out somewhere
Cleaves - official The Club towel waiver
Ok, enough - back to all about JT
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Just for the fun of it, I did a little research.
Magic Johnson: Lifetime stats. ppg- 19.5, rpg- 7.2, apg- 11.2
Best year: 1988-89- ppg- 22.5, rpg- 7.9, apg- 12.8,
total assists in 13 seasons- 10,141
Isiah Thomas: Lifetime stats. ppg- 19.2, rpg- 3.6, apg- 9.3
Best year: 1984-85- ppg- 21.2, rpg- 4.5, apg- 13.9
Total assists in 13 seasons- 9061
John Stockton: Lifetime stats. ppg- 13.1, rpg- 2.7, apg- 10.5
Best year: 1989-90- ppg- 17.2, rpg- 2.6, apg- 14.5
Total assist in 19 seasons- 15,806
A player forgotten
Oscar Robertson: lifetime stats. ppg- 25.7, rpg- 7.5, apg- 9.5
Best year: 1961-62- ppg- 30.8, rpg- 12.5, apg- 11.4
Total assists in 14 seasons- 9987
It would be hard to choose anyone of these guys as the best of all time, but its would be hard to find anyone that scored, rebounded and assisted as well as Oscar did. But they were all great and all of them brought something unique to the game.
Magic Johnson: Lifetime stats. ppg- 19.5, rpg- 7.2, apg- 11.2
Best year: 1988-89- ppg- 22.5, rpg- 7.9, apg- 12.8,
total assists in 13 seasons- 10,141
Isiah Thomas: Lifetime stats. ppg- 19.2, rpg- 3.6, apg- 9.3
Best year: 1984-85- ppg- 21.2, rpg- 4.5, apg- 13.9
Total assists in 13 seasons- 9061
John Stockton: Lifetime stats. ppg- 13.1, rpg- 2.7, apg- 10.5
Best year: 1989-90- ppg- 17.2, rpg- 2.6, apg- 14.5
Total assist in 19 seasons- 15,806
A player forgotten
Oscar Robertson: lifetime stats. ppg- 25.7, rpg- 7.5, apg- 9.5
Best year: 1961-62- ppg- 30.8, rpg- 12.5, apg- 11.4
Total assists in 14 seasons- 9987
It would be hard to choose anyone of these guys as the best of all time, but its would be hard to find anyone that scored, rebounded and assisted as well as Oscar did. But they were all great and all of them brought something unique to the game.
Oscar was a great player but it's tough to compare him to todays players. It's kind of like comparing Wilt and Russell to todays players as well. It was a different era back then and they would have been good, but most certainly would not have dominated the way they did in those days if they all played in this era.
Anyone who thinks that Oscar Robertson couldn't compete in todays league is out to lunch, or never saw him play. Wilt, in todays league with the lack of real centers, would probably be the most dominate center in the NBA, as he was in his day. This is all subjective and there's no way to prove any of it, but with the league filling up with young players that lack fundamentals and the talent being spread thin by having too many teams, A player like Wilt would have a field day.
Last thing I'm trying to do is rain on his parade. He's my favourite King. I never said he won't get better with a more balanced team around him (seems to be what you implied). On the contrary, I think he has alot of potential. I just think it's a little unfair on him to expect him to put up HOF type numbers. I guess that makes me a party-pooper.
Magic Johnson is one of the three or four best players of all time. He's singular.
Isiah Thomas is in a secondary club.
Gary Payton was better than Stockton and Kidd, but its close.
Nash was great, but I'm pretty convinced his stats were inflated by playing in the D'Antoni system. I think he's a cut below.
Paul could eventually be in the Isiah Thomas category. Deron Williams could get into the Payton, Stockton Kidd level if he keeps playing like he has.
As for Jason Thompson, keep it up buddy! It really is a good thing to have a big man with skills who bangs and plays hard.
Isiah Thomas is in a secondary club.
Gary Payton was better than Stockton and Kidd, but its close.
Nash was great, but I'm pretty convinced his stats were inflated by playing in the D'Antoni system. I think he's a cut below.
Paul could eventually be in the Isiah Thomas category. Deron Williams could get into the Payton, Stockton Kidd level if he keeps playing like he has.
As for Jason Thompson, keep it up buddy! It really is a good thing to have a big man with skills who bangs and plays hard.
That simply reinforces the point I was trying to make. You preferring to stay "relatively level-headed" is your choice. That doesn't it make it the only way to be a fan. Some of us are much more "fanatical", while others are even more laid back than you.
My point was that dime dropper resorted to using terms like "silly" and "crazy" which are strictly judgmental.
That elicited my response to dime dropper to not rain on ryanandty's parade. Since none of us know for sure just how good Jason Thompson will end up being, the sky is the limit...
My point was that dime dropper resorted to using terms like "silly" and "crazy" which are strictly judgmental.
That elicited my response to dime dropper to not rain on ryanandty's parade. Since none of us know for sure just how good Jason Thompson will end up being, the sky is the limit...
That simply reinforces the point I was trying to make. You preferring to stay "relatively level-headed" is your choice. That doesn't it make it the only way to be a fan. Some of us are much more "fanatical", while others are even more laid back than you.
anyway as far as JT goes, hes literally the only thing worth watching on this team and I talk about him to all of my friends. so keep it up big fella
To go OT for a moment... When Kev was first signed with the Kings, those of us who were really excited about him were continually told we were delusional, silly, etc. He would never be any good, we were told. He would never even be a star, let alone a key player. He wouldn't get a second contract and would probably drop off the face of the NBA earth.
Now, back on topic. Is the current hope/assertion about Jason Thompson any less possible than what Martin has achieved? The numbers might be a bit high but there's certainly nothing wrong with reaching for the sky.
Is it really ridiculous? Or is it your perception that it's ridiculous?
Like Don Quixote said, "To dream the impossible dream..."
I know it's just a silly argument at this point, so I'll cease and desist...and continue to hum the soundtrack from "The Man of La Mancha."
Now, back on topic. Is the current hope/assertion about Jason Thompson any less possible than what Martin has achieved? The numbers might be a bit high but there's certainly nothing wrong with reaching for the sky.
Is it really ridiculous? Or is it your perception that it's ridiculous?
Like Don Quixote said, "To dream the impossible dream..."
I know it's just a silly argument at this point, so I'll cease and desist...and continue to hum the soundtrack from "The Man of La Mancha."
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A 24 and 13 guy makes him one of the top 10 PFs of all time.
So now, with that silliness, word choice intentional, aside, he can clearly be at least a solid starter, and being a good one is right there with only a little improvement.
Being one of the ten best PFs of all time...why do we have to go through this with every player the Kings acquire again?
So now, with that silliness, word choice intentional, aside, he can clearly be at least a solid starter, and being a good one is right there with only a little improvement.
Being one of the ten best PFs of all time...why do we have to go through this with every player the Kings acquire again?
To go OT for a moment... When Kev was first signed with the Kings, those of us who were really excited about him were continually told we were delusional, silly, etc. He would never be any good, we were told. He would never even be a star, let alone a key player. He wouldn't get a second contract and would probably drop off the face of the NBA earth.
Now, back on topic. Is the current hope/assertion about Jason Thompson any less possible than what Martin has achieved? The numbers might be a bit high but there's certainly nothing wrong with reaching for the sky.
Is it really ridiculous? Or is it your perception that it's ridiculous?
Like Don Quixote said, "To dream the impossible dream..."
I know it's just a silly argument at this point, so I'll cease and desist...and continue to hum the soundtrack from "The Man of La Mancha."
Now, back on topic. Is the current hope/assertion about Jason Thompson any less possible than what Martin has achieved? The numbers might be a bit high but there's certainly nothing wrong with reaching for the sky.
Is it really ridiculous? Or is it your perception that it's ridiculous?
Like Don Quixote said, "To dream the impossible dream..."
I know it's just a silly argument at this point, so I'll cease and desist...and continue to hum the soundtrack from "The Man of La Mancha."
This exact reason is why I don't frequent the board as much as I would like. It's either blind loyalty or lack of perspective.
Some call it bleeding purple, but sometimes it just comes off as without any sort of perspective of basketball outside the kings.
And yes, it happens with every player. There is no middle ground; superstar after one game, logic be damned, or "Mateen" after the next.
Some call it bleeding purple, but sometimes it just comes off as without any sort of perspective of basketball outside the kings.
And yes, it happens with every player. There is no middle ground; superstar after one game, logic be damned, or "Mateen" after the next.
WAIT JUST A SEC... now you know "Kevin isn't a franchise player, he doesn't work hard and he never plays defense??????"
Anyways, JT certainly has the potential to be a star in this league. 24/13 certainly isn't out of his reach - especially once we surround this kid with extra talent. And I for one am so excited because he is starting and going against the top PFs every night.
Anyways, JT certainly has the potential to be a star in this league. 24/13 certainly isn't out of his reach - especially once we surround this kid with extra talent. And I for one am so excited because he is starting and going against the top PFs every night.
for double overtime: for every kevin martin there are 10 quincy douby's. as an aside let it be known that i had a Martin 23 custom made his rookie year because they werent available otherwise