Free Agency Thread - 2018

Another free agent with 3 and D potential is Jerami Grant at 6'9" and 220 lbs.

He plays good Defense and his offense is coming around. I think he could develop into a Robert Covington type small forward. He's also a unrestricted free agent too.
 
I see nobody that the Kings can get that I'd rather see starting over Bogdan or Buddy. Bogdan and Buddy at the 2 and 3 please. If it doesn't work then look at your options but don't go out and settle for some supposed fit when some of your best players are being under used.
 
Considering Fox and Bagley are not shooters and Orlando drafted a C in Bamba and have a unmoveable contract in Bismack I would really take a run at Nik Vucivic I know he sucks on D but he can really spread the floor from mid range and do a lot of the stuff Z-Bo does he would work really well with Bogi on pick n rolls/pops.

I would offer them like a WCS/ZB0/KK for Vuc type deal or get a 3 way going with Atlanta since they probably are going to move Dennis Schrodar where Orlando ends up with Dennis/Z-Bo and Atlanta gets WCS and we get Nick Vuc.
 
Los Angeles Clippers guard Milos Teodosic has exercised his $6.3 million player option for the 2018-19 season, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Teodosic’s salary will become fully guaranteed for next season if he is on the Clippers’ roster past July 15.

So if clippers waive him 7/14 to pay him the 2 mil guar money, should we look at him for backup PG?
 
Jkbiker said:
Los Angeles Clippers guard Milos Teodosic has exercised his $6.3 million player option for the 2018-19 season, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Teodosic’s salary will become fully guaranteed for next season if he is on the Clippers’ roster past July 15.

So if clippers waive him 7/14 to pay him the 2 mil guar money, should we look at him for backup PG?
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I would love it because he is one of my favorites, but the Kings might feel that between Fox, Mason, and Bogdan they have the position covered. Also they might be keeping a spot open just in case. I think with Nigel's contract we have 14 filled.
 
SacTownKid said:
I see nobody that the Kings can get that I'd rather see starting over Bogdan or Buddy. Bogdan and Buddy at the 2 and 3 please. If it doesn't work then look at your options but don't go out and settle for some supposed fit when some of your best players are being under used.
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They are too small.
 
The_Jamal said:
I don't mind overpaying a really good player that addresses the biggest weakness on the team (wing defense). And the usage thing confuses me too, he's a really good passer (14.7% AST rate), he's was efficient with a 58% TS last year, he was effective at finishing at the rim with a 69.8 FG% on 179 attempts, and he got to the Free Throw Line at a good clip at .333. Everything points to him needing to be a more involved offensive player, but he just wasn't last year. Maybe getting him away from the iron fist of Pop will open his game up? I see no reason he couldn't be similarly effective at 18-20% USG.

This is the summer we can afford an overpay on a guy like Anderson, Smart, Gordon, Parker, etc. If we're serious about making a big win increase next year (8-10 wins), then we have to be aggressive on bringing a good young player who can grow with this core.
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If I’m going to overpay Parker is the only one I overpay for. I do it only if I’m convinced Bagley can guard quicker wings so I can have Parker defend the 4.
 
SacTownKid said:
I see nobody that the Kings can get that I'd rather see starting over Bogdan or Buddy. Bogdan and Buddy at the 2 and 3 please. If it doesn't work then look at your options but don't go out and settle for some supposed fit when some of your best players are being under used.
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Yep. Better to get a luxury center. There is a good market!
 
SacTownKid said:
Against some match ups perhaps, but I didn't notice that being an issue at all when they did play together last season. Buddy in particular did a fantastic job against bigger players. He started to use his size as an advantage and attacked the dribble quite well.
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Sure once in a while when matchups allow but long term wouldn’t work
 
Kingsfan23 said:
It’s not optimal, doesn’t matter IMO. Both are good, starters, part of the teams core it will pay, our best lineups are with them and they can develop physically still
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Buddy seemed more at ease off the bench. Seems like he accepted that role. U always need a player like that.
 
Joer said:
Buddy seemed more at ease off the bench. Seems like he accepted that role. U always need a player like that.
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He gained his confidence off it last year for sure.

Still, he’s rounding into a quality starting caliber, was arguably the teams best player to end the season, may not want to continue to come off the bench for his career, and needs to play 32 minutes a game
 
Kingsfan23 said:
He gained his confidence off it last year for sure.

Still, he’s rounding into a quality starting caliber, was arguably the teams best player to end the season, may not want to continue to come off the bench for his career, and needs to play 32 minutes a game
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Was Bobby Jackson starting quality? IMO he was. Still coming off the bench made the team successful
 
 
VF21 said:
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Has anyone here seen this guy play? 6'9ft strecth 4, shot 42% on threes in the G league with over 7attempts per game. Based on couple of highlights nice quick release. Havent seen him play so dont know anything about his defense, Iq ect but stats, size and shooting stroke made me curious. Maybe someone to look at since we dont have any stretch 4's?
 
VF21 said:
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So the Clippers have until July 15th to waive him? Getting Teodosic would be a HUGE get for us, I think the guy has next level playmaking ability. Either way, we need a veteran 3rd pg who isn’t going to demand too many minutes and he’d be the ideal target but someone like Jose Calderon could work too
 
Nokidding said:
Considering Fox and Bagley are not shooters and Orlando drafted a C in Bamba and have a unmoveable contract in Bismack I would really take a run at Nik Vucivic I know he sucks on D but he can really spread the floor from mid range and do a lot of the stuff Z-Bo does he would work really well with Bogi on pick n rolls/pops.

I would offer them like a WCS/ZB0/KK for Vuc type deal or get a 3 way going with Atlanta since they probably are going to move Dennis Schrodar where Orlando ends up with Dennis/Z-Bo and Atlanta gets WCS and we get Nick Vuc.
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At this point, that's a deal breaker for me. We don't need any more guys who can't play defense. We need a 3 and D.
 
lol @ anyone who actually thought Denver would accept Jokic's option and make him an unrestricted free agent in 2019.


He's hitting RFA this year.
 
206Fan said:
lol @ anyone who actually thought Denver would accept Jokic's option and make him an unrestricted free agent in 2019.


He's hitting RFA this year.
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Jokic is an interesting case in that offensively, he's a supercharged first season with the Kings Brad Miller but defensively he offers less resistance than a chair at an NBA draft prospect's solo workout. He's the most important player on the Nuggets for sure but I'm not sure that he's necessarily worth a max contract.
 
Joer said:
Was Bobby Jackson starting quality? IMO he was. Still coming off the bench made the team successful
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He was a combo guard who couldn’t run an offense and he was under a multi year contract with the Kings. If another team deemed him starter quality and then offered him a big salary, which I’d foresee with Buddy, why would he not take it to start somewhere else? Maybe Eric Gordon in Houston, or Crawford or Lou Williams are putting images in minds. I don’t consider Williams/Crawford all around players like I envision Buddy, Gordon is getting paid and on a contender and his market wasn’t strong. Manu maybe, but he started at times and that’s an outlier situation IMO. But few starting quality players ‘want’ to remain on the bench their careers. The team will eventually have to pay him starting salary too..

The team wasn’t successful, and may have been more with Buddy/Bogdanovic starting (which were some of our statistical better lineups). We should’ve experimented with that to end the season IMO.

But, maybe Buddy is amenable to it, they can find 30 minutes a game etc. Still rubs against my philosophy of having the best players out there healthy minutes deciding games (Reynolds too who suggested Buddy start at 3 to coaches, I might do Bogdanovic 7 ft reach and his athleticism might better serve him there)
 
Tetsujin said:
Jokic is an interesting case in that offensively, he's a supercharged first season with the Kings Brad Miller but defensively he offers less resistance than a chair at an NBA draft prospect's solo workout. He's the most important player on the Nuggets for sure but I'm not sure that he's necessarily worth a max contract.
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I personally think max contracts are reserved for franchise players.. it's why I still think Porter Jr has a poor contract. He's getting paid 24mpy to be a 3&D player.. ridiculous.

With Jokic, I'm ok with giving him the max contract. He's steadily improved every year in the league, and we're not just banking on potential anymore. He's showed legitimate production on a near-playoff team. 18.5pts 10.7rebs 6.1asts on 49.9/39.6/85 at only 23yearsold. Just for reference, our 15th overall pick form last year is only 1 month younger than him.. and Frank Mason is nearly a year older than him.

He's a gigantic defensive liability who plays no defense and gives minimal effort. However his offense is elite. Great offensive players get a pass for bad defense. That's Jokic.

The supermax was a gigantic mistake in the NBA. I don't know why teams would even agree to it. Is Jokic worth a supermax? ...If Wiggins is, then yes, so is Jokic.
 
206Fan said:
I personally think max contracts are reserved for franchise players.. it's why I still think Porter Jr has a poor contract. He's getting paid 24mpy to be a 3&D player.. ridiculous.

With Jokic, I'm ok with giving him the max contract. He's steadily improved every year in the league, and we're not just banking on potential anymore. He's showed legitimate production on a near-playoff team. 18.5pts 10.7rebs 6.1asts on 49.9/39.6/85 at only 23yearsold. Just for reference, our 15th overall pick form last year is only 1 month younger than him.. and Frank Mason is nearly a year older than him.

He's a gigantic defensive liability who plays no defense and gives minimal effort. However his offense is elite. Great offensive players get a pass for bad defense. That's Jokic.

The supermax was a gigantic mistake in the NBA. I don't know why teams would even agree to it. Is Jokic worth a supermax? ...If Wiggins is, then yes, so is Jokic.
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DRAPM = 0.53 (150th in league)
DRPM = 1.95 (52nd in league)
Def On/Off = -1.8 (3rd on his team)

He's not going to be making any all NBA defensive teams anytime soon, but I think it's a little unfair to be saying that "he's a gigantic defensive liability who plays no defense and gives minimal effort."
 
A guy I like that wouldn't be a FA but a potential trade target is Royce O'Neale. Good defender & 3pt shooter and is on a rookie deal for the next couple years. Not sure it's realistic though as I'm sure the Jazz would like to hang on to him.
 
Bruski joked on twitter that Joe Harris is the ideal target that the Kings never go after. It's funny because it's true and sad.

Nwaba is an interesting option. I think Chicago will try to keep him. He's less a shooter than Harris, but he does so many things and his perimeter defense shows a lot of promise. He's listed as only 6'4 but he averaged 4.7 rebounds in 23 minutes per game and is comfortable along the baseline and in the paint. He's like a discount DWade.
 
 
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