Yes it does trump it he’s not punishing small ball don’t get how you make out a player like him unless he’s gobert
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Yes it does trump it he’s not punishing small ball don’t get how you make out a player like him unless he’s gobert
Hoovtrain
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Not sure I follow exactly what you are trying to say, but you are certainly entitled to your opinion
So again, who do you want to spend money on?
Kingsfan23
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Answer the second part, who are you looking to spend it on?
Non proven or injury risk SFs in Hezonja/Parker?
I can’t think of a better player that will be attainable to the Kings any time soon. If you can, let us know who
steelevt
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Just cuz we have theloney doesn't mean we should blow it all on someone. I don't think capela is worthy of a max contract. If the kings don't think anyone this class is worthy, maintain flexibility for next year 1 year plus team option contracts or pay someone who might out play his smaller contract.
I think free agency plans were always dependent on who was selected.
If it was Doncic, then you have filled the starting SF role, you want a stretch 4 and you need a big who sets good screens and rolls hard to the basket. And ideally one who can be the lone big on defense, protect the rim and rebound aggressively.
That last role is exactly why you'd want Capela. Willie isn't a great screener and isn't the defender/rebounder we hoped he would be though he can switch onto quicker players on defense. Koufos is a great interior defender and good rebounder, but he's not a rim protector or a guy who can switch on to quicker players at all. Capela is a better fit than both and until the team knows that Giles can stay healthy and sees what they've got with him, Capela would make a ton of sense.
Now that Bagley is the pick, starting small forward is actually the biggest need, stretch four is a bit less of a need (partly because the hope is that Bagley can develop his outside shot further but mostly because there won't be as many minutes to go around) and a big like Capela makes less sense. To help Bagley develop you don't really want a center who can only operate close to the basket as it just crowds the lane.
So while I love what Capela has done with the role he was given in Houston (surrounded by wing shooters and two shooter/creators in Harden and CP3) he isn't a good fit for the Kings IMO. Especially with the money he'll command.
So it isn't that Hezonja is a better player than Capela. He isn't. But he's a better fit and provides more value relative to what he's likely to sign for.
If it was Doncic, then you have filled the starting SF role, you want a stretch 4 and you need a big who sets good screens and rolls hard to the basket. And ideally one who can be the lone big on defense, protect the rim and rebound aggressively.
That last role is exactly why you'd want Capela. Willie isn't a great screener and isn't the defender/rebounder we hoped he would be though he can switch onto quicker players on defense. Koufos is a great interior defender and good rebounder, but he's not a rim protector or a guy who can switch on to quicker players at all. Capela is a better fit than both and until the team knows that Giles can stay healthy and sees what they've got with him, Capela would make a ton of sense.
Now that Bagley is the pick, starting small forward is actually the biggest need, stretch four is a bit less of a need (partly because the hope is that Bagley can develop his outside shot further but mostly because there won't be as many minutes to go around) and a big like Capela makes less sense. To help Bagley develop you don't really want a center who can only operate close to the basket as it just crowds the lane.
So while I love what Capela has done with the role he was given in Houston (surrounded by wing shooters and two shooter/creators in Harden and CP3) he isn't a good fit for the Kings IMO. Especially with the money he'll command.
So it isn't that Hezonja is a better player than Capela. He isn't. But he's a better fit and provides more value relative to what he's likely to sign for.
sactowndog
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One other option is Doug McDermott. Dallas just rescinded their qualifying offer so he is unrestricted on the market.
Kingsfan23
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I think there is a little more incentive to spend it this summer for a few reasons
1. The market is such where only a few teams have healthy cap space. It’s a buyers market this summer. Next summer more teams will have cap and I’m not sure a player of Capelas class could be attained
2. IMO the FO/coaching staff will feel the heat to produce now for jobs sake
3. This summer a max runs the length to Marvins next contract evenly.
Not only that, but 2 years on Buddy, Skal and Bogdan and 3 years on Fox/Giles/JJ//Mason. So everyone we expect to be our feature core doesn't need to be paid for awhile. It's why we should be pushing to get ANY good player to come here, even if we have to overpay. Our books are set up so nicely that even if we take on a bust FA, it's not going to affect the long-term core.
sactowndog
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I think to your point it’s the time to take a risk on a young player whether it’s Hezonja or McDermott.
KingsSelecao
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Mcdermott shot 49 from 3 last year. I would definitely go after him.
As a back up option lets assume we trade WCS/ZB0 or Kosta for a SF I would offer a cheap deal to Alex Len who the Suns did not re-sign/restrict he put up 8.5 (57% FG) and 7.5 rpg and 0,9 blocks in 20mins while WCS put up 12.8ppg (50% FG but he did create a lot more for himself than Len) 7.0 rpg and 0.9bpg in 28mins hes still 25.
Hezonja
Parker isn’t a SF can’t guard the perimeter and a poor passer. Parker wants to be a number 1 option and here he’d be behind Bagley, Fox as well as Bogdan since he can run a pick and roll
Ozymandias
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Ariza would be worth his weight in gold on this roster, idk how we'd convince him to not play for a contender tho.
Ozymandias
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Fred Van Vleet would be an interesting backup PG... There's rumors swirling that he could command over $10MM on the open market....
sactowndog
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Hezonja or McDermott might be interesting. Dougie could sit in the corner and drain 3’s all day.
Ozymandias
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1 #Mavs work w #Clippers to do 'opt-in-and-trade' for #DeAndreJordan 2 trade before July 1, w Matthews to LAC. (Which gets $7M TE, a pairing better than letting DAJ walk July 1.) 3 DAJ gets his $24M ... 4 AND Dallas can be left w $20M of shopping room to bid on, say Jabari. pic.twitter.com/N7IUloWCUB
1 #Mavs work w #Clippers to do 'opt-in-and-trade' for #DeAndreJordan 2 trade before July 1, w Matthews to LAC. (Which gets $7M TE, a pairing better than letting DAJ walk July 1.) 3 DAJ gets his $24M ... 4 AND Dallas can be left w $20M of shopping room to bid on, say Jabari. pic.twitter.com/N7IUloWCUB
Ozymandias
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Van Vleet is essentially a much better version of Frank Mason tbh..
Doug McDermott's defense is so bad that it takes him shooting nearly 50% from 3 just to break even as an average rotational player. I wouldn't sign this guy unless he was the very last option on the table. If he shoots the same percentage as Buddy Hield, he is now a below average player.
If Justin Jackson does exactly what he does last year but raises his 3 point percentage to 35%, he will be just as good as Doug McDermott. If he improves other parts of his game, he's now ahead of McDermott and not looking back. There's a reason why McDermott has been on a handful of teams the last couple years. He's not a good player. He would have a niche on the Kings teams of old as the Anthony Peeler or Jim Jackson sharpshooter off the bench but on this team he will just exacerbate what is already a massive problem....defense.
If Justin Jackson does exactly what he does last year but raises his 3 point percentage to 35%, he will be just as good as Doug McDermott. If he improves other parts of his game, he's now ahead of McDermott and not looking back. There's a reason why McDermott has been on a handful of teams the last couple years. He's not a good player. He would have a niche on the Kings teams of old as the Anthony Peeler or Jim Jackson sharpshooter off the bench but on this team he will just exacerbate what is already a massive problem....defense.
Ozymandias
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There's no case for them to sign McDermott. It's a much better gamble to sign Jabari Parker for $20MM/per szn
steelevt
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Is he $10 million better than frank Mason tho?
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Defense goes a long way.
Avery Bradley and Mbah a Moute.
Bradley can switch with Bogs on offense and defense because bogs should be the primary ballhandler off the bench and bradley CAN guard.
I watched last year as A Moute became money with the corner 3. He is a very effective defensive player.
Our perimeter defense is horrible and should be our #1 priority. All this talk of Hezonja makes me sick. He will not improve our perimeter defense.
Bradley and A Moute would drastically change our rotations. How many open threes can we see year after year?
Hopefully Giles and Bagley address our rebounding horrors. Then with rebounding and perimeter D we will be addressing our greatest needs imho.
Fox/Bogs
Buddy/Avery
A Moute/Temple? (or JJ depending)
Bagley/Giles
Kosta/Willie
Avery Bradley and Mbah a Moute.
Bradley can switch with Bogs on offense and defense because bogs should be the primary ballhandler off the bench and bradley CAN guard.
I watched last year as A Moute became money with the corner 3. He is a very effective defensive player.
Our perimeter defense is horrible and should be our #1 priority. All this talk of Hezonja makes me sick. He will not improve our perimeter defense.
Bradley and A Moute would drastically change our rotations. How many open threes can we see year after year?
Hopefully Giles and Bagley address our rebounding horrors. Then with rebounding and perimeter D we will be addressing our greatest needs imho.
Fox/Bogs
Buddy/Avery
A Moute/Temple? (or JJ depending)
Bagley/Giles
Kosta/Willie
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I'm actually pretty jealous of the Suns right now. Ayton, Jackson, Bridges and Booker. If they land even an average PG, they're in the playoffs relatively quickly.
I could see them going after FVV. The guy everyone has forgotten about is Brandon Knight.. I don't think he's nearly as bad as some fans say he is, but he's just been injured. Still only 26.
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