Bibby

[DirkAB]

All of those PGs and some others made Bibby look bad

We couldn't replace any of our players with equal value at the moment

So are you saying that he should be traded or not?

 

[Stojakovic]

He is not even top 10 PGs

He did not get us to WCF. WCF was his best series but in a team with Webber to say something like that is phatetic.

Chris Webber has made Mike Bibby

Bibby's "greatness" , much like Peja's was a product of a system that was executed to perfection by Bibby-Christie-Peja-Webb-Vlade.

A Top 5 PG ? That's got to be a joke.

 

[Kings241]

You have got to be kidding me. Bibby is a top 5 PG in this league. He got us to WCF in 2002 whether you want to believe it or not.

Last time I checked its 2006 and we have a whole new roster. We aren't that same team that scored over 100 points and won each game. We will never be that team again as long as we keep this roster. We aren't going in any direction as of now and we need to change it otherwise things will get worser then it already is. Bibby's value is really high and if you can get a PG like Earl Watson that can play defense, get you decent amount of points, and also get another player that we can use on the bench it would help a lot. Bibby is in the same category as Marbury. He shoots first and then looks to make his teamates better.

 

[Jerryaki]

bibby is not the problem. yes, his defense needs to be upgraded big time, but three and two games ago when he was forced to carry the team, he did. and the game against boston, when he dove for the ball before half-time, it shows that he is at least capable of some intensity this season.

i think the offense and the system is the problem. and it makes no sense to make mike match that system when clearly NO ONE ELSE ON THE TEAM can fit into that system. adelman needs to change the offense. for the love of god, please change the offense.

 

[piksi]

So are you saying that he should be traded or not?

he should not be traded just to be traded. (we did that with Webber)

If it will help Kings - everybody should be traded.

We are 12-18.

 

[BonziFan]

2002?? where do you live? And Bibby top 5?? You really like him a lot or don't know this game.

Obviously YOU don't know his game. I understand that it is the past, but it just proves my point that he needs different players around him.

 

[DirkAB]

Bibby is in the same category as Marbury. He shoots first and then looks to make his teamates better.

I'm sorry but if you really believe that Bibby is in the same category as Marbury then I think that you are on crack. Marbury wants to have the ball in his hands like 90% of the game and dribble the letters off the ball and then jacks up ill-advised shots. You said earlier that you weren't throwing out insults, but comparing him to Marbury is about the biggest insult of them all. Bibby is such a better team player then Marbury it isn't even comparable, next you'll be comparing him to Steve Francis.

 

[BonziFan]

He is not even top 10 PGs

He did not get us to WCF. WCF was his best series but in a team with Webber to say something like that is phatetic.

Chris Webber has made Mike Bibby

That is my point!He needs different players!

 

[VF21]

Last time I checked its 2006 and we have a whole new roster. We aren't that same team that scored over 100 points and won each game. We will never be that team again as long as we keep this roster. We aren't going in any direction as of now and we need to change it otherwise things will get worser then it already is. Bibby's value is really high and if you can get a PG like Earl Watson that can play defense, get you decent amount of points, and also get another player that we can use on the bench it would help a lot. Bibby is in the same category as Marbury. He shoots first and then looks to make his teamates better.

Confucius (and Geoff Petrie) say:

When the wise man points at the moon, the idiot looks at the finger.

 

[piksi]

That is my point!He needs different players!

so does every other player on this roster

 

[bball]

Obviously YOU don't know his game. I understand that it is the past, but it just proves my point that he needs different players around him.

well, I prefer to know this game then his game; as for me he does not play this game good enough.

 

[BonziFan]

well, I prefer to know this game then his game; as for me he does not play this game good enough.

Then clearly you don't understand this game very much when the point is to put the ball in the basket.

 

[bball]

Then clearly you don't understand this game very much when the point is to put the ball in the basket.

Sure: 4-20

 

[Jerryaki]

Then clearly you don't understand this game very much when the point is to put the ball in the basket.

hey! that should be up in the kings locker room!!

 

[BonziFan]

Sure: 4-20

Way to point out 1 game. On any given night Kobe and Iverson shoot 5-30, but I am sure you don't think they suck. No I am not comparing these players, but if that is your only response then come on.

 

[piksi]

Way to point out 1 game. On any given night Kobe and Iverson shoot 5-30, but I am sure you don't think they suck. No I am not comparing these players, but if that is your only response then come on.

hate doing this but

http://www.nba.com/games/20051101/SACNOK/boxscore.html

http://www.nba.com/games/20051102/SACHOU/boxscore.html

http://www.nba.com/games/20051108/DETSAC/boxscore.html

there are more but it is just too damn depressing

 

[bball]

Way to point out 1 game. On any given night Kobe and Iverson shoot 5-30, but I am sure you don't think they suck. No I am not comparing these players, but if that is your only response then come on.

you are not comparing them? why do you mention them then? All stars are allowed to have 5-30 nights (I don't think Pedja is all star either), and they look classy even then. Bibby is not one , and will never be.

 

[BonziFan]

you are not comparing them? why do you mention them then? All stars are allowed to have 5-30 nights (I don't think Pedja is all star either), and they look classy even then. Bibby is not one , and will never be.

Let me guess though that you were also one of the people saying Bibby was robbed last year and the year before that for not making the all-star team.

 

[VF21]

Congratulations. This thread has now become too dumb to be allowed to continue.