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Bricklayer

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Boston aggressively shopping #21 and #22 looking to get into lottery to jumpstart their rebuild.

Would you:

Paul Pierce (2012-13 $16.8mil; 2013-14 $15.3mil)
#21
#22

for

John Salmons (2012-13 $8.1mil; 2013-14 $7.6mil)
#5
 
No, because PP is always out of shape. I don't think he makes us into a playoff team at this point in his career.

Also, I can see PP being unhappy in Sac. It takes a certain type of all star to fit well in Sac and PP is not one of them.
 
Maloofs won't. Next question.


Oh, these sorts of wannabe poser things where you pick up famous name players because somebody else said they're cool are precisely the things you could expect out of the Maloofs. They are followers, not leaders, and always looking for the quick and easy attention/fix.
 
Oh, these sorts of wannabe poser things where you pick up famous name players because somebody else said they're cool are precisely the things you could expect out of the Maloofs. They are followers, not leaders, and always looking for the quick and easy attention/fix.

That's an affirmative! Maloofs are definitely followers and I could see THEM pulling the trigger on a trade like this...but would Petrie do it?? I think not.
 
Yup, assuming we can find a way to move MT and one of those picks to move up, or acquire a defensive minded guard or big.
 
i wouldnt. some people in the pau thread are against that trade due to age. pierce is older and would have to guard more athletic players at the sf position as opposed to gasol at the 4/5. i think it is easier to find a wing player of that caliber if you are willing to pay around 15 mil a year. the only problem is getting that FA to sign in sac.
 
He'll retire before Kings get to the second round. What's the point.
My comment was that it really doesn't work financially if they plan to stay near team salary minimum.
 
Boston aggressively shopping #21 and #22 looking to get into lottery to jumpstart their rebuild.

Would you:

Paul Pierce (2012-13 $16.8mil; 2013-14 $15.3mil)
#21
#22

for

John Salmons (2012-13 $8.1mil; 2013-14 $7.6mil)
#5

If Pierce was younger, yes! But he turns 35 in oct, and looking at the downside of his career. I'd love to get rid of Salmons, but I'm not willing to let go of the 5th pick to accomplish that. So my answer is no...
 
You do realize Paul Pierce is 35 and probably has zero interest in paying for the Kings, right? As far as our situations goes, you're pretty much trading the 5 and Salmons for two late firsts. Sounds like a crap deal to me.
 
For me, given the team rumored to be after our pick, along with rumors of who's on the block, there's other's i'd go after first.

Lowry + pieces/picks
Gasol
Iggy

Pierce to me seems to be on his last legs and I'm usually wary of wings entering their mid 30's. Most wings really drop off around 33, whereas bigs can put off the decline for a few more years, as Dirk/KG/Duncan at 34/36/36 still have a great impact. But Wade at 30 has lost a step. VC after 30 wasn't nearly the same. Kobe at about 32 lost a step. Pierce also never seems to be in great shape and always looks pudgy, which would make me even more nervous about injuries going forward. But he also seems to have clearly lost a step or two and was invisible in many playoff games this year. Can't get the separation or lift he used to.
 
I'd prefer Iggy, Deng, or Lowry deals at this point.

I've been watching Pierce his entire career. He doesn't strike me as a guy who would do everything he could to help a young team like ours. I honestly think if he was traded here he would just retire. That, and he looked really old for a large chunk of the games this season. AND .. I don't think KG comes back if Pierce and Allen are gone. The Celtics want Garnett back, obviously.
 
Boston aggressively shopping #21 and #22 looking to get into lottery to jumpstart their rebuild.

Would you:

Paul Pierce (2012-13 $16.8mil; 2013-14 $15.3mil)
#21
#22

for

John Salmons (2012-13 $8.1mil; 2013-14 $7.6mil)
#5

I love Pierce, but he's really up there in age. The picks we get in return would have to be much higher to make it a possibility.
 
WOULD YOU (upinsmoke's version)

Would you swap picks with TOR and in return recieve their 1st pick in next years draft?
 
Absolutely not. If we were a team that needed 1 more piece to get over the top, then I'd take the risk to try and win a title in the next 2 years. But, we're probably 2 years away from the playoffs, much less a title contender.

Here's list I would deal #5+a contract for:

Ibaka
Harden
Lowry+12
#8+Ed Davis assuming no MKG on the board.

Other than that, no other deal really makes sense for us
 
I wouldn't do it. Haen't ever liked Pierce. The value might be there but I don't want to have to live with him for a couple of years. Next question.
 
I like Pierce and what he brings.

But...he's just too long in the tooth. I think I remember hearing that he wants to retire a Celtic, so it's possible he wouldn't come to play for us, and if he did, he wouldn't be motivated to be the leader we'd want of him.

If this was a couple of years ago, I'd be for it, but not now.
 
Boston aggressively shopping #21 and #22 looking to get into lottery to jumpstart their rebuild.

Would you:

Paul Pierce (2012-13 $16.8mil; 2013-14 $15.3mil)
#21
#22

for

John Salmons (2012-13 $8.1mil; 2013-14 $7.6mil)
#5
In a heartbeat, if Pierce was motivated to succeed here.

It's adding a proven, successful vet at the expense of draft picks and unimportant pieces (actually shedding a very bad piece).

This is exactly the kind of trade the Kings SHOULD be doing - bringing in vets who still want to play (again, that's IF they did their jobs and know the NBA's players well) and combine them with the young talent they already have.

OKC has blinded everyone into thinking that drafting an all-young team is the way to succeed in the NBA.
OKC is the aberration, not the rule.
The Kings already have the young pieces they need to be better - what they need are solid vets at the PG, SF, and PF positions. Hell, 2 out of 3 of those would do! But unproven youth at 3 or 4 or even 5 starting positions is not going to win in the NBA most of the time.
 
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