Do the current Kings have someone like this to make the big shot when it matters in the playoffs. Lets bring in a savvy veteran who can make others better and isn't worried about ego. If we S&T Bonzi, I would love to see a player who has that veteran leadership come back in return. We have enough youth. Who is out there? Great question................
Will the Kings get over the hump?
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Do the current Kings have someone like this to make the big shot when it matters in the playoffs. Lets bring in a savvy veteran who can make others better and isn't worried about ego. If we S&T Bonzi, I would love to see a player who has that veteran leadership come back in return. We have enough youth. Who is out there? Great question................We're loaded at the wings and guards, and it seems like were committed to the young guys, which I'm good with.
The only guys out there who are decent or worth getting in general, are Tony Delk/Eddie House/Jumaine Jones. We tried to get Claxton, but he chose Atlanta with a starting job over backing up Bibby. I'd rather have Douby and Price than Delk or Eddie House. If we could replace Delk with Hart, but Douby/Price still get time, sometimes being ahead of him? I'd be alright with that. With Jones, I would of preferred him over Salmons, but they're different players. So, that's history.
But, as I said, we already have Bibby/Hart/Douby/Price/Salmons/Martin/Garcia/Ron. The only deals we should do now will involve big men. Since we have holes there, there is plenty of time to address that, and are set with enough guys at G/SF.
The only guys out there who are decent or worth getting in general, are Tony Delk/Eddie House/Jumaine Jones. We tried to get Claxton, but he chose Atlanta with a starting job over backing up Bibby. I'd rather have Douby and Price than Delk or Eddie House. If we could replace Delk with Hart, but Douby/Price still get time, sometimes being ahead of him? I'd be alright with that. With Jones, I would of preferred him over Salmons, but they're different players. So, that's history.
But, as I said, we already have Bibby/Hart/Douby/Price/Salmons/Martin/Garcia/Ron. The only deals we should do now will involve big men. Since we have holes there, there is plenty of time to address that, and are set with enough guys at G/SF.
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While I agree that we have some potentially good talent in the backcourt, I'm a little anxious about how well these young players are going to show up. If you think about it, besides Bibby we don't really have a backcourt player with a significant experience. If the Kings are looking at really being able to compete in a couple of years, that's fine but right now that could be a problem.
Overall, I think the management needs to define what stage we are in. If you look at the current roster, we could be in a very good position to rebuild, but it would probably mean trading either Bibby or Miller for young parts/high draft picks. My concern is that we seem to have a couple of guys in their prime/downhill slope and more guys that are probably a couple of years away. Now, that could all change with a couple trades or some unexpected development but I feel like it helps to pick a direction.
Overall, I think the management needs to define what stage we are in. If you look at the current roster, we could be in a very good position to rebuild, but it would probably mean trading either Bibby or Miller for young parts/high draft picks. My concern is that we seem to have a couple of guys in their prime/downhill slope and more guys that are probably a couple of years away. Now, that could all change with a couple trades or some unexpected development but I feel like it helps to pick a direction.
Fear the Putin
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if we get rid of kenny we will get over the humpv
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
yeah, our hump just isn't what it used to be.
Woohoo! We made it back to #6 in the West!
Kingsgurl
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Someone like that? I'd have to say no. Although those 6 point touchdowns could come in handy in a game where you are down 5 with seconds left. One question though, do we have to kick in a free throw for the PAT?
yeah, our hump just isn't what it used to be.
Woohoo! We made it back to #6 in the West!
So THAT'S why they put the obscene numeral in front of Arco. Another mystery solved...
LPKingsFan
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Too much!
Gary
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This year the top of the hump is 7th seed, so getting over it would be 6th! I think we can do it, but K-Mart has to perform well.
Lets compare us to the Pistons of last year... We are a couple pieces away from a good team. Basically the 1999 kings to the 2000 kings.
Our backcourt and SF pos reminds me of the Pistons. Artest/Bibby/Martin (2 years from now Martin) - Rip/Prince/Billups
Lets compare us to the Pistons of last year... We are a couple pieces away from a good team. Basically the 1999 kings to the 2000 kings.
Our backcourt and SF pos reminds me of the Pistons. Artest/Bibby/Martin (2 years from now Martin) - Rip/Prince/Billups
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SacTownKid
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I don't know what it takes. I mean, we got Artest what more do you want, or need? Of course we could always get more, but if the Kings of 2-4 years were taking shape now and we brought in Doug Christie, Vlade Divac, Scot Pollard, Webber, Peja Stojakovic, etc. you'd still be saying "thats good and all, but we still need that big move!"
Do we? Of course you could always add a top tier player, I actually kind of thought we did when we added Ron. Chemistry, direction, and motivation are huge factors on how well this team will do.
Do we? Of course you could always add a top tier player, I actually kind of thought we did when we added Ron. Chemistry, direction, and motivation are huge factors on how well this team will do.
GoGoGadget
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Don't get the logic behind this at all.
If Ron Artest was all we needed, then surely we would have won the whole thing last season, no? Despite his pre-game boasts, it does actually take more than Ron Artest and four 10-year-olds to win anything of significance.
Ultimately, the Kings finished last season with a first round playoff exit. As of right now, the team is not as strong as the one that left the court after the game 6 loss. That does not equal success, nor does it bode particularly well for the future.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
This really REALLY gets taken too far on here sometimes. Ron is a great player. But he's not all THAT. A one time All-Star. One time DPOY. When your competitors for the title are all being led by greater players, true hall of famers, having Ron simply isn't enough by itself. Not even really close actually.
Now if Ron was your second best player you'd have a helluva team. But if he's the best that you have then you have to have a VERY strong and complete set of teammates for him, and seamless chemistry as well. We're just not there, and realistically will be very hardpressed to ever be.
Kev.in
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I don't get it either. The way people have been talking on here this summer is bugged out. Apparently all we need is Jumaine Jones and Lorenzen Wright and the title is ours.
nbrans
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He's an underrated player -- he's athletic, a decent defender, good rebounder and can shoot the 3. He's got good size for the small forward position and when he's gotten time he's done well. He makes things happen when he's in the game. Petrie has tried to trade for him before. I don't think we'd go after him now that we have Salmons, but Jones would have been a good option.
SacTownKid
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Just saying that its not really fair taking a team that has literally played 2 months together and having them face a former champion that has been a solid unit for years and expect them to win easily. At least they gave them a fight. I'd like to see a team of ours actually find some stability because the last few years have just been crazy, hardly even knowing who's on the team at any given point. Sure things need to be addressed but before we break up the team again I'd like to see what they can do.
SacTownKid
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chelle
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Considering the fact that we were out in the first round for the past 2 seasons, getting into the second round would be an improvemnet. Of course, we all want to win it all, but that may not be probable this season. (I ALWAYS BELIEVE IN THE POSSIBILITY!) However, contrary to most of the posts, I think this team can get us into the second round - at least.
Is that getting "over the hump?" Not entirely since our goal is the trophy, but, I am choosing to be positve. It could happen.
Is that getting "over the hump?" Not entirely since our goal is the trophy, but, I am choosing to be positve. It could happen.
Circa_1985_Fan
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argh...the #6...the mark o' the beast. but will we ever be...the beasts we need to be...to get rings??
Circa_1985_Fan
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Dude! That New Edition avatar makes me feel old!
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