Who is available as 6th-7th pick

[Kingsfan23]

I'm nervous about WHERE we will be selecting... I can't remember the last year we actually picked above where we were originally slotted to given our record, we have only been picking at the same spot or worse

 

[The_Jamal]

i must admit that i, too, am tantalized by the prospect. i've long maintained that the 'REKE-ISN'T-A-PG!!!!!!!111!!!!!!11!!! chants are so ridiculously inflated, especially given that PG, as a position, has evolved dramatically in the contemporary nba. tyreke will never be a high volume assist man, but he can very effectively run an offense, despite what the detractors say. and if you have a center like demarcus that can occasionally initiate the offense from the high post, and if you bring in a SF who can initiate from time to time, as well (a la doug christie), it doesn't matter so much that you don't have the mythical "true PG" that so many at kf.com have been clamoring for since ricky rubio entered the draft...

I'd definitely trust a proper coach to put a capable offense with Reke at the point. Meaning fixing his tendencies of starting the offense with 12 seconds on the clock, getting the ball up the floor quicker etc. He's shown he's got the handles, floor vision to be an effective passer, but he struggles with other intricacies of the PG spot.

The physical and defensive benefits of having a Reke-Oladipo or Reke(Tony Allen?) type of back-court would absolutely get us in the right direction defensively. Stopping perimeter penetration is a big reason why Memphis and Miami are so damn good defensively.

 

[Padrino]

I'd definitely trust a proper coach to put a capable offense with Reke at the point. Meaning fixing his tendencies of starting the offense with 12 seconds on the clock, getting the ball up the floor quicker etc. He's shown he's got the handles, floor vision to be an effective passer, but he struggles with other intricacies of the PG spot.

The physical and defensive benefits of having a Reke-Oladipo or Reke(Tony Allen?) type of back-court would absolutely get us in the right direction defensively. Stopping perimeter penetration is a big reason why Memphis and Miami are so damn good defensively.

this is what i've longed for since 'reke's potential on defense first started rearing its head during his rookie season. we've seen flashes of it when 'reke's been paired with toney douglas. we even saw a bit of it back when 'reke and terrence williams occasionally shared a few minutes together on the court. basketball is, after all, a game of balance. if you have a weak defender down low in demarcus, you pair him with a stronger defender in the post, and you create trust in your defensive sets by starting a backcourt that won't cede ground every single play, allowing an offense to break down your defense not long after the ball has crossed the half court line. isaiah thomas is a defensive liability as a starting PG, but a 'reke/oladipo backcourt has some serious defensive potential, and, though i'm quite fine with 'reke's role as a SG, i've always been a proponent of creating a matchup nightmare with 'reke at PG, giving him the room to bully the rest of the league with his strength...

 

[bajaden]

of parker, i would absolutely agree. of rondo, i'm not so sure. he has a gift for exploiting defenses with the pass, and he's an exceptional man defender amongst guards, but he gives you very little else. he can get to the rim occasionally, but in a league of evolving combo guards, rondo is actually a bit too old school in style, in my opinion. he's also a 7-year veteran. he doesn't have much growing left to do as an nba player. so, yes, if rondo were to come to sacramento, he may very well be instantly recognized as "the best player on our team," but, when considering the ceilings of demarcus cousins and tyreke evans, you have to wonder if such a designation would hold up for long. even tyreke is developing an adequate outside shot (having shot 34% from 3 this past season), whereas rondo is a career 24% 3-pt. shooter...

edit: and this is not meant to dismiss rondo's talent. he's a tremendous player, but, for me, the lines start to blur when you talk about "tyreke+5," etc, when attempting to acquire an established star. often, it's more useful to properly develop your own talent in-house, particularly if that talent exists along the potential of a "star" trajectory. in the kings' case, that means committing to the development of demarcus cousins and tyreke evans, as san antonio committed to parker, as boston committed to rondo. outside of his rookie season, 'reke has not been given the room to operate, to grow, that these other star players have...

I'm one of the odd balls that isn't in love with Rondo. I've always felt he was overrated, and I could be very wrong. But Rondo became Rondo with the arrival of Garnett and Allen. Now I realize that any PG worth his salt should see his assists go up with talent like that to play with. But there are guys that do the opposite. Players like Nash make stars out of otherwise average players. And when the Nash's of the world go elsewhere, the so called stars always come back down to earth. So we'll see with Rondo going forward just how good he is. The Celts are becoming a mere shell of what they were, so he'll have a chance to prove he can make average players into good players.

 

[bajaden]

Actually, Harris is a PF and Harkless is a SF.

Harris played PF in college, but has been playing SF in the NBA.

 

[bajaden]

i must admit that i, too, am tantalized by the prospect. i've long maintained that the 'REKE-ISN'T-A-PG!!!!!!!111!!!!!!11!!! chants are so ridiculously inflated, especially given that PG, as a position, has evolved dramatically in the contemporary nba. tyreke will never be a high volume assist man, but he can very effectively run an offense, despite what the detractors say. and if you have a center like demarcus that can occasionally initiate the offense from the high post, and if you bring in a SF who can initiate from time to time, as well (a la doug christie), it doesn't matter so much that you don't have the mythical "true PG" that so many at kf.com have been clamoring for since ricky rubio entered the draft...

I agree 100%! Who was the true PG on the Webber/Divac team? All Bibby did was bring up the ball and then pass it into either Vlade or Webb. He played off the ball more than on the ball, usually coming off double screens for a pullup. It really all depends on what kind of offense your running.

 

[Dime Dropper]

Draft Oladipo. Put 'Reke back at PG. Sign one of Korver/D.Wright. There's options out there if we go the Oladipo route.

 

[King in England]

Draft Oladipo. Put 'Reke back at PG. Sign one of Korver/D.Wright. There's options out there if we go the Oladipo route.

I'm starting to become really intrigued by this idea. We could out muscle out rebound and out defend the opposition teams. Kind of the opposite of the way we play now.

However, as MassachusettsKingsFan has been saying in the other prospect thread, it would make me even more worried that the front office see him as a replacement to Evens therefore allowing Tyreke to move on. Basically if this was the route we were going, I wouldnt be happy until Evans has signed on the dotted line (for us).

 

[Capt. Factorial]

I can't remember the last year we actually picked above where we were originally slotted to given our record, we have only been picking at the same spot or worse

1989 is the answer (Never Nervous Pervis!), but that was before the current weighted lottery in the "envelope" days. We have only had our lotto combo selected once, in 1991, but we had the third best shot and got the third pick, so we didn't technically move up. Since then, nothing.

 

[Uk kings fan]

I'm starting to become really intrigued by this idea. We could out muscle out rebound and out defend the opposition teams. Kind of the opposite of the way we play now.

However, as MassachusettsKingsFan has been saying in the other prospect thread, it would make me even more worried that the front office see him as a replacement to Evens therefore allowing Tyreke to move on. Basically if this was the route we were going, I wouldnt be happy until Evans has signed on the dotted line (for us).

I havent seen you in ages man how are you???

 

[hrdboild]

Actually, Harris is a PF and Harkless is a SF.

Right now they're playing Harris at SF and Harkless at PF but long-term, they're probably both SFs and that's why I think they're going to have to pick one of them. Right now I think Harris is the man there, but we'll see what happens next season. I was a big fan of Harkless at St. John's and I'm still a big fan. I don't know what it would take to get him. That'll be more clear after they fill some of their needs in the off-season and start to figure out their rotation. Last year they were basically just in emergency talent acquisition mode.

 

[jalfa]

Harris played PF in college, but has been playing SF in the NBA.

in Orlando, he has mostly played as a PF next to Harkless and Vucevic, though and he had by far his most success as a PF.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

Draft Oladipo. Put 'Reke back at PG. Sign one of Korver/D.Wright. There's options out there if we go the Oladipo route.

i agreee, regardless of who we draft. Tyreke needs to be given a chance at the PG with real coaching and a real system.

he was most productive as a PG and it gives him huge advantages on his opponent which he loses when being moved to SG

 

[Megalodon]

Well, just 173. I remind you, I'm 6/2. And yes, I do set solid screens.

Your killing me !

 

[Sac.Kings]

Draft Oladipo. Put 'Reke back at PG. Sign one of Korver/D.Wright. There's options out there if we go the Oladipo route.

Agreed. It is essential that the pick is viewed as a chance for Tyreke to move back to the one and Oladipo as the 2 (and make sure that this is communicated to Evans as well).

 

[HereWeBoogie]

say goodbye to our chances at Oladipo and Porter

 

[Entity]

hello Trey Burke

 

[Dime Dropper]

hello Trey Burke

He'll be long gone. Solid chance he goes to Orlando at 2. Definitely won't be there at 7.

 

[Kingster]

Could be Burke, Bennet, Shroeder, Gobert. Seems like a lot to choose from.

 

[upinsmoke]

I think if we offer the pick to ORL with MT for Harkless they might have a hard time turning that down.

 

[hrdboild]

Well, barring another draft day miracle, at #7 I'd be looking at guys like Schroeder, Carter-Williams, or Adetokoubo. Maybe not popular picks at that spot but I don't like the centers. McCollum and Muhammad are gunners. Bennett is intriguing. I'll have to take a closer look at his resume before coming to a decision.

Trading the pick as part of a package deal might be our best option. If we can nab a young prospect that way maybe we can fill our other needs through free agency.

 

[Kingsfan23]

having resigned myself that Burke will be gone, I want to like Schroeder...... incredible physical specimen.. speed.. jumper is nice.. can create for himself/teammates off the dribble.. he's 19 so he should fill out a bit.. don't like the distribution instincts yet - bad Assist/T.O in europe although he did better at the Portlnd exhibition.. would worry me.. to me pg instincts are largely natural - you have them or don't.. he has swag from the clips I've seen

 

[The_Jamal]

Bennett is intriguing as all hell with the top guys off. Guy has a POLISHED offensive game and can shoot it well from anywhere on the floor with a great stroke. I think he's a classic example of someone you can shift to the 3 spot. He's has adequate handles, can create off the dribble, and he has great length and athleticism.

 

[Nikolizzle]

Well, right now NBADraft.net has Kings selecting Anthony Bennett. I have to admit, if he's got the ability to play the SF, he would be an interesting choice if he falls to us.

I'm 100% behind the idea of drafting Carter-Williams, though. Let him be our Rondo, because if he can give Cousins & Reke good looks, they'll score. Hell, they could probably even trade down and still get him; add someone else to the mix as well.

Then put together a trade for an established SF. I'm still into the Thornton/Thompson to Boston for Paul Pierce.

 

[jdbraver]

Gobert is really intriguing. Would be the weakside shot blocker we need on D. Could play a dalembert roll.

 

[Dime Dropper]

I want to see how he does in workouts. I have a big fear that he's too weak. He's a terrible finished if there's contact. He gets almost all of his points off dunks. Nothing wrong with that if he can be a defensive anchor. Just not sure he can.

I'm a bigger fan of Schroeder and Karesev. They're probably top of my list at the moment.

 

[Sac.1989]

Michael Carter-Williams and our backcourts set. Goota go for BPA imo

lots of talk the blazers are keen and will trade up to land Victor Oladipo

 

[jdbraver]

I want to see how he does in workouts. I have a big fear that he's too weak. He's a terrible finished if there's contact. He gets almost all of his points off dunks. Nothing wrong with that if he can be a defensive anchor. Just not sure he can.

I'm a bigger fan of Schroeder and Karesev. They're probably top of my list at the moment.

We have a ton of scorers we need someone to defend the rim and change shots at the rim. Dalembert was definetly offensively challenged and skinny. I wouldn't say anchor he won't push people out of the paint but he can play weakside. We have Cousins and Chuck Wagon to push people out. Cousins doesn't right now but he could.

 

[Sam0ah]

Michael Carter-Williams and our backcourts set. Goota go for BPA imo

lots of talk the blazers are keen and will trade up to land Victor Oladipo

Michael Carter-Williams, Bennett or Burke and I am happy.

 

[Vlade4GM]

Bennett will be gone, too many teams before us could use the offensive firepower that he'd bring, especially at the 4. If he's on the board, he's BPA by far, but I think his strength is at PF, and he and Cousins would make a very poor defensive frontcourt. We can only only hope that Burke will fall to us, and it's possible if the Magic pass on him, but I wouldn't hold my breath. If not Burke, then I want Schroeder as of right now, he's got all the tools, and he's got confidence too.