Who is available as 6th-7th pick
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You get an A+ for finding this link. It shows what I was beginning to discover last night as I scanned a few mock drafts: there is nothing cast in stone beyond the first few picks. After that, anyone could fall to the Kings. What I fear is that the "anyone" might be BPA, if such a thing exists after the top 2 or 3. but this BPA might have a skill set that does not fit with the Kings. To start with the negatives, I tend to not want a guard unless it is Oladipo. Oladipo could be a running mate with Evans for the next decade. Anyone else is just too small and we have plenty of them. Picking Oladipo would lead to a major house cleaning and to that I say "Amen." The flirtation with small ball would officially be over. He and Bennett may fight it out for ROY. We have Evans and Cousins yet are trying to force them into a small ball offense. That is absurd. We are on the cusp of having one of those big, boring teams that wins especially in the playoffs.
Shabazz Muhammad is an offensive black hole and that is the last thing we need at any position. This is the Gospel according to Glenn.
Anthony Bennett is a guy I would normally like but he is a tweener and whether he plays 3 or 4, his skill set is still mainly offensive. He seems like a short PF. Unlike TRob, he seems to have definable skills and they are very, very good. He is great on offense but see the Gospel according to Glenn. I would sigh as we pass him by but I think we would have to.
Cody Zeller is a 7 footer with very few if any 7 footer skills. He has no defense. We need defense badly especially if we think adding a 7 footer is a good idea. The painted area at present seems more like a launch pad for the opposition to score than a place that should be feared. He will be a decent NBA player but not for us.
Now it swings a little toward the positive. Alex Len has a stress factor and that worries me a lot. Certainly it will heal but stress fractures tend to recur in big men and that could be a tragedy. Think Yao Ming, Bill Walton, and Sam Bowie. I would be very inclined to take the risk. Len can block shots and has a decent amount of offense to be very desirable. Combine him with Cuz, PPat, and JT and you have a scary front line. The NBA shift towards small front line people might take a shift as we beat up on teams with small front tines.
Otto Porter might solve a long time problem at SF. He also might not fall to us but this is somewhat of a "who knows?" draft. I insert him here just in case.
After this I insert Gobert as his wingspan and height make him interesting. His lack of a sophisticated game also attracts attention. He needs a lot of work in the weight room. I don't think I would pick someone whose true value might take several years to discover. Unless there is no starter available at #7 that I have mentioned above, I wouldn't consider him. If all the guys I like are gone, I would ponder this pick carefully and probably hope I could work a trade for a veteran.
There must be more and I do NOT consider myself an expert. This is mainly the info I have inhaled from the internet. Hopefully it will focus some discussion.
In the end I would be thrilled with Len, Porter, and Odalipo as they are good athletes who fit a Kings need. Can any of these three fall to us? I think Len might as medical staffs on other teams get consulted. He is a risk. Porter and Odalipo shouldn't fall to us but who knows? Stranger things have happened.
It is a shame that after all these years, we haven't found a SF or a guard that fits with Evans. How difficult can this be? We have stockpiled guards but no one who fits with Tyreke except Douglas, perhaps, but he is not a starter. And then there is my biggest aggravation and that is that we have no running mate for Cuz. We had one in Daly and lost him. Poof!
Shabazz Muhammad is an offensive black hole and that is the last thing we need at any position. This is the Gospel according to Glenn.
Anthony Bennett is a guy I would normally like but he is a tweener and whether he plays 3 or 4, his skill set is still mainly offensive. He seems like a short PF. Unlike TRob, he seems to have definable skills and they are very, very good. He is great on offense but see the Gospel according to Glenn. I would sigh as we pass him by but I think we would have to.
Cody Zeller is a 7 footer with very few if any 7 footer skills. He has no defense. We need defense badly especially if we think adding a 7 footer is a good idea. The painted area at present seems more like a launch pad for the opposition to score than a place that should be feared. He will be a decent NBA player but not for us.
Now it swings a little toward the positive. Alex Len has a stress factor and that worries me a lot. Certainly it will heal but stress fractures tend to recur in big men and that could be a tragedy. Think Yao Ming, Bill Walton, and Sam Bowie. I would be very inclined to take the risk. Len can block shots and has a decent amount of offense to be very desirable. Combine him with Cuz, PPat, and JT and you have a scary front line. The NBA shift towards small front line people might take a shift as we beat up on teams with small front tines.
Otto Porter might solve a long time problem at SF. He also might not fall to us but this is somewhat of a "who knows?" draft. I insert him here just in case.
After this I insert Gobert as his wingspan and height make him interesting. His lack of a sophisticated game also attracts attention. He needs a lot of work in the weight room. I don't think I would pick someone whose true value might take several years to discover. Unless there is no starter available at #7 that I have mentioned above, I wouldn't consider him. If all the guys I like are gone, I would ponder this pick carefully and probably hope I could work a trade for a veteran.
There must be more and I do NOT consider myself an expert. This is mainly the info I have inhaled from the internet. Hopefully it will focus some discussion.
In the end I would be thrilled with Len, Porter, and Odalipo as they are good athletes who fit a Kings need. Can any of these three fall to us? I think Len might as medical staffs on other teams get consulted. He is a risk. Porter and Odalipo shouldn't fall to us but who knows? Stranger things have happened.
It is a shame that after all these years, we haven't found a SF or a guard that fits with Evans. How difficult can this be? We have stockpiled guards but no one who fits with Tyreke except Douglas, perhaps, but he is not a starter. And then there is my biggest aggravation and that is that we have no running mate for Cuz. We had one in Daly and lost him. Poof!
Could be. But here's a mock draft (from CBS Sports) from last year about the same time (May 30th actually) which I found and thought was interesting.
While he wasn't a can't miss all-star in the making, Davis was the consensus #1 last year with Robinson, MKG, Beal, Barnes and Drummond making up the second tier. The ROY (Lillard) was actually drafted 6th and moved up on draft boards from where nearly all mocks him to begin with. Terrence Ross also moved up significantly. Most importantly, Waiters went from a guy who was projected to be taken in the 20's to the 4th pick in the draft. Especially in a draft like this year's I think there are good odds that one of them will fall to the Kings slot. The question will be whether the Kings want that player.
- Anthony Davis
- Thomas Robinson
- Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
- Bradley Beal
- Harrison Barnes
- Andre Drummond
- Jared Sullinger
- Jeremy Lamb
- John Henson
- Damien Lillard
- Austin Rivers
- Terrence Jones
- Perry Jones III
- Meyers Leonard
- Tyler Zeller
- Terrence Ross
- Kendall Marshall
- Quincy Miller
- Arnett Moultrie
- Moe Harkless
- Dion Waiters
- Royce White
- Evan Fournier
While he wasn't a can't miss all-star in the making, Davis was the consensus #1 last year with Robinson, MKG, Beal, Barnes and Drummond making up the second tier. The ROY (Lillard) was actually drafted 6th and moved up on draft boards from where nearly all mocks him to begin with. Terrence Ross also moved up significantly. Most importantly, Waiters went from a guy who was projected to be taken in the 20's to the 4th pick in the draft. Especially in a draft like this year's I think there are good odds that one of them will fall to the Kings slot. The question will be whether the Kings want that player.
Grunfield, Wizards GM, said yesterday to everybody, who was willing to listen, that he takes Porter. Noel and McLemore look 1-2 for the moment, so Wizards didn't have any incentive to pump him, unless they wanna fool Cleveland in taking Porter #1.
As for front court mate for Boogie, people forget how mobile Daly was. Last year Drummond was more athletic for sure. This year seems like only Adams and Dieng are quick enough, and I'm not sure about them and Dieng might have to put some more weight even to handle some PFs in the post. Len is athletic for such a big center, he has very good footwork and he will score in the NBA, maybe even close to 20ppg, but pairing him and Boogie will expose this team to any big that excels at P&R. Gobert lacks strength but if he doesn't bulk up a lot he can probably retain enough foot speed to challenge everybody who beat him off-the-dribble with his length.
As for front court mate for Boogie, people forget how mobile Daly was. Last year Drummond was more athletic for sure. This year seems like only Adams and Dieng are quick enough, and I'm not sure about them and Dieng might have to put some more weight even to handle some PFs in the post. Len is athletic for such a big center, he has very good footwork and he will score in the NBA, maybe even close to 20ppg, but pairing him and Boogie will expose this team to any big that excels at P&R. Gobert lacks strength but if he doesn't bulk up a lot he can probably retain enough foot speed to challenge everybody who beat him off-the-dribble with his length.
The above mock draft is scary. My DO NOT WANT list: Shabbaz (undersized power 3); Zeller - the frame of woman's clothes hanger; MCW - no shot, not good enough ballhandler for pg, doesn't have a position - I'm done with that. I might be sold on Len, but the fracture scares me. I wonder if Len drops below the Kings slot.
We agree .................. and the earth just tilted off its axis. 
I am sure I have said it before but I think Len will drop because of his fracture. I still would take him. I didn't understand the subtle knock on pairing Cuz and Len because they couldn't guard the PnR.
As to the fracture, what I have said is true, big guys are prone to stress fractures if they have already had one - it shows the propensity to that problem. His fracture required surgery. Then I mentioned 310 pound Yao Ming, Sam Bowie (not really stress fractures) and Bill Walton. Does anyone know of any other big guy with stress fractures? In other words, have I inserted too much alarm into this discussion?
If I can insert worry into a person's mind, send my concerns to the teams that draft ahead of us. PnR roll defense be damned; Cuz and Len not only would save letters in typing their names but would be beast like in the paint. I have been scrambling to catch up to bajaden in my knowledge so I hope I am not mistaken that Len can block shots at a decent level. Not scary Mutombo level but pretty darn good.
A woman's clothes hanger?????
I am sure I have said it before but I think Len will drop because of his fracture. I still would take him. I didn't understand the subtle knock on pairing Cuz and Len because they couldn't guard the PnR. As to the fracture, what I have said is true, big guys are prone to stress fractures if they have already had one - it shows the propensity to that problem. His fracture required surgery. Then I mentioned 310 pound Yao Ming, Sam Bowie (not really stress fractures) and Bill Walton. Does anyone know of any other big guy with stress fractures? In other words, have I inserted too much alarm into this discussion?
If I can insert worry into a person's mind, send my concerns to the teams that draft ahead of us.
PnR roll defense be damned; Cuz and Len not only would save letters in typing their names but would be beast like in the paint. I have been scrambling to catch up to bajaden in my knowledge so I hope I am not mistaken that Len can block shots at a decent level. Not scary Mutombo level but pretty darn good.A woman's clothes hanger?????
All I have seen is that he tends to attack the rim. In my dreams he can also hit three pointers but I'll wait for someone else to answer. He's a strong, athletic guy who, I think I have mentioned before, reminds me a bit of Cuz when he heads to the rim. He is quick.
Maybe I should quit guessing and let the sports experts answer.
A combo of Len, Cuz, PPat, and JT may leave room for the trading of JT if we also keep Aldrich or else it will be a scary front rotation of 4.
To comment on another note, hand size is soooo darn important.
Maybe I should quit guessing and let the sports experts answer.
A combo of Len, Cuz, PPat, and JT may leave room for the trading of JT if we also keep Aldrich or else it will be a scary front rotation of 4.
To comment on another note, hand size is soooo darn important.
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Now that would be a tempting proposition, two mid first round picks for our seventh pick could represent great value. I saw a mock where Utah take Schroeder (PG) at 14 and Tony Snell (SG/SF) at 21; and Atlanta take Jamaal Franklin (SG) at 17 and Gorgui Dieng (C) at 18. So there are decent options, the likes of Lucas Nogueira, Mason Plumlee, Giannis Adetokoubo, Shane Larkin etc could all be available. So grabbing two picks could be very appealing.
Personally though I wouldn't mind seeing us adding a PF like Bennett (if he falls) or Cody Zeller; another option would be to go for SF like Bazz, or even grab McCollum.
Either way I think we'll land a good player.
Personally though I wouldn't mind seeing us adding a PF like Bennett (if he falls) or Cody Zeller; another option would be to go for SF like Bazz, or even grab McCollum.
Either way I think we'll land a good player.
We agree .................. and the earth just tilted off its axis. I am sure I have said it before but I think Len will drop because of his fracture. I still would take him. I didn't understand the subtle knock on pairing Cuz and Len because they couldn't guard the PnR.
As to the fracture, what I have said is true, big guys are prone to stress fractures if they have already had one - it shows the propensity to that problem. His fracture required surgery. Then I mentioned 310 pound Yao Ming, Sam Bowie (not really stress fractures) and Bill Walton. Does anyone know of any other big guy with stress fractures? In other words, have I inserted too much alarm into this discussion?
If I can insert worry into a person's mind, send my concerns to the teams that draft ahead of us. PnR roll defense be damned; Cuz and Len not only would save letters in typing their names but would be beast like in the paint. I have been scrambling to catch up to bajaden in my knowledge so I hope I am not mistaken that Len can block shots at a decent level. Not scary Mutombo level but pretty darn good.
I am sure I have said it before but I think Len will drop because of his fracture. I still would take him. I didn't understand the subtle knock on pairing Cuz and Len because they couldn't guard the PnR. As to the fracture, what I have said is true, big guys are prone to stress fractures if they have already had one - it shows the propensity to that problem. His fracture required surgery. Then I mentioned 310 pound Yao Ming, Sam Bowie (not really stress fractures) and Bill Walton. Does anyone know of any other big guy with stress fractures? In other words, have I inserted too much alarm into this discussion?
If I can insert worry into a person's mind, send my concerns to the teams that draft ahead of us.
PnR roll defense be damned; Cuz and Len not only would save letters in typing their names but would be beast like in the paint. I have been scrambling to catch up to bajaden in my knowledge so I hope I am not mistaken that Len can block shots at a decent level. Not scary Mutombo level but pretty darn good.
Len is indeed good shot-blocker but one of Cuz-Len will have to guard athletic PFs like Griffin or Aldridge (good that Bron and Melo are in the East), and will get torched with P&R and drives. You will also have to cover these PFs when they outsprint their defender with ease to get to Kings' paint.
We agree .................. and the earth just tilted off its axis. I am sure I have said it before but I think Len will drop because of his fracture. I still would take him. I didn't understand the subtle knock on pairing Cuz and Len because they couldn't guard the PnR.
As to the fracture, what I have said is true, big guys are prone to stress fractures if they have already had one - it shows the propensity to that problem. His fracture required surgery. Then I mentioned 310 pound Yao Ming, Sam Bowie (not really stress fractures) and Bill Walton. Does anyone know of any other big guy with stress fractures? In other words, have I inserted too much alarm into this discussion?
If I can insert worry into a person's mind, send my concerns to the teams that draft ahead of us. PnR roll defense be damned; Cuz and Len not only would save letters in typing their names but would be beast like in the paint. I have been scrambling to catch up to bajaden in my knowledge so I hope I am not mistaken that Len can block shots at a decent level. Not scary Mutombo level but pretty darn good.
A woman's clothes hanger?????
I am sure I have said it before but I think Len will drop because of his fracture. I still would take him. I didn't understand the subtle knock on pairing Cuz and Len because they couldn't guard the PnR. As to the fracture, what I have said is true, big guys are prone to stress fractures if they have already had one - it shows the propensity to that problem. His fracture required surgery. Then I mentioned 310 pound Yao Ming, Sam Bowie (not really stress fractures) and Bill Walton. Does anyone know of any other big guy with stress fractures? In other words, have I inserted too much alarm into this discussion?
If I can insert worry into a person's mind, send my concerns to the teams that draft ahead of us.
PnR roll defense be damned; Cuz and Len not only would save letters in typing their names but would be beast like in the paint. I have been scrambling to catch up to bajaden in my knowledge so I hope I am not mistaken that Len can block shots at a decent level. Not scary Mutombo level but pretty darn good.A woman's clothes hanger?????
As for the stress fracture thing, I don't think you're exaggerating at all. Len could drop like a stone, which I might not like if Gobert takes his place as the big man to get.
I think this is what may happen esp. re: Gobert. At this early stage, teams and the media who print these mock drafts haven't caught up to the fact he needed surgery. Stress fractures don't occur by landing wrong, twisting the knee, stepping on a foot or any thing like that. They occur because someone who weighs a lot simply lands on the floor jumping or something else as simple as that. Dang!
I hope more than Len drops to us. There are actually quite a few players that could help us but none should slide to #7. Let us pray. Stranger things have happened.
Schroeder is 6'1", I think. We could put him on the shelf with our other short guards.
I hope more than Len drops to us. There are actually quite a few players that could help us but none should slide to #7. Let us pray.
Stranger things have happened.Schroeder is 6'1", I think. We could put him on the shelf with our other short guards.
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I think this is what may happen esp. re: Gobert. At this early stage, teams and the media who print these mock drafts haven't caught up to the fact he needed surgery. Stress fractures don't occur by landing wrong, twisting the knee, stepping on a foot or any thing like that. They occur because someone who weighs a lot simply lands on the floor jumping or something else as simple as that. Dang!
I hope more than Len drops to us. There are actually quite a few players that could help us but none should slide to #7. Let us pray. Stranger things have happened.
Schroeder is 6'1", I think. We could put him on the shelf with our other short guards.
I hope more than Len drops to us. There are actually quite a few players that could help us but none should slide to #7. Let us pray.
Stranger things have happened.Schroeder is 6'1", I think. We could put him on the shelf with our other short guards.