slugking50
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Well you can't say "Never" because obviously that isn't true, and even you admit that much. There isn't one member on our team that hasn't let us down at some point, no one can ALWAYS be counted on in the clutch. Some are just more reliable than others.STIgirl said:So are you saying that he IS clutch?
So he made a couple of lucky 3 pointers. Maybe I shouldve put "almost never" to make all you nit pickers happy. But pretty much what I meant is that he isn't clutch. And based on his performance the many years that he's been here, if you were to say otherwise you obviously have not been watching the games.
I've said it before I'll say it again...WORD!love_them_kings said:there will be more booing, of course, he's in Philly now. His play on the 76ers obviously has no bearing on how he played when he was here. Playing under a different coach and with a different team changes things tremendously, unless you think it's just coincidence that Webb isn't playing as well in Philly while Skinner, Corliss, and Kenny are magically playing so much better in Sac.
Bricklayer said:STi, after his performance this year you're just making yourself look silly. You might as well argue Peja can't shoot.
You're my hero!Superman said:Hell, let's all take a nap.
Following are just a few random, late hour musings:
I wish I could take a nap everyday, maybe even two. Ironically, I would probably get a lot more done than I do now.
Jim O'Brien takes a nap during every 76ers game, apparently.
Maybe Chris should just take a nap every time the Philly fanatics decide that it's booing hour.
People who continually harp on Webber's shortcomings must have been napping everytime he did something good in his career.
I wish I had been napping last season when he shot 2-21 against the Warriors. But I sure wasn't napping when he had a triple-double in the first half of Game 2 against the Mavs in the first round.
Okay. That's enough. I'm going to sleep.
Superman said:As far as Webber being booed, what Sixer hasn't been booed by Philly fans? They boo their own mothers when dinner isn't ready on time. Classless jackasses. (Generally speaking.)
ImaDougaholic24_7 said:For the record..76er fans are just plain rude. Everyone knew it was gonna happen eventually. Who DON'T they boo? They don't care about hurting the players feelings or making them feel like crap..once you start missing shots (whoever it be) and losing, the "fans" are gonna let you know. They're gonna start talking their trash and booing. That's just how Philly is. So I hope Webb just ignores all that, whoever boo's ..who cares..let them boo. I guarentee the same people who were booing are gonna be the one's cheering them on when everything goes good. That's what makes me mad about them..they talk crap when you're down but when you get things rolling again they're all with it. (That's why I love Kings fans..they stick by the team win or lose..most of the time anyways)
well as a sixers fan living in phila, i thought id add my two cents.
first, webber was booed pretty heavily at the game vs. gs, but the whole team was booed. during breaks in the third quarter, as the team headed to the bench, the whole team was booed. true webber was singled out, but i really think it was frustration with how crappy the whole team was playing, against one of the worst teams in the league, when we're supposedly in a playoff chase, that set off the booing. the discontent has been building since before the trade. i think if you asked fans around phila, the number one culprit for the crap play is the coach - wacky substitutions, benching starters, then starting them, then giving them inconsistent minutes (see how he alienated kenny thomas).
i also think most fans realize that its not all webber's fault that the offense seems to have collapsed of late. sure its his fault when he misses a layup or an open jumper. but most fans realize that webber's game is having the offense run through him in a ball-movement, motion offense. some dont realize, and im shocked that so-called fans around here think that webber has this awesome post game that he's holding back on for some reason. how we can play to webber's strenght with ai on the floor at the same time . . . . that remains to be seen. the sixers have never played the pass-happy, equal opportunity, motion offense that sac plays in all the years that ai has been here. maybe thats been a mistake, but we certainly play to allen's strengths.
as for the booing, all these people on this board are shocked - just shocked! - that these awful philly fans would boo webber. gee theyre just animals in phila, they booed santa claus. but i remember when webber was booed in sacto and he talked of wanting out. that was last year shortly after he came back from his injury. if sac fans would boo the guy who brought your franchise back from extinction like that, in cwebb's house, how can you be surprised that he would be booed by phila fans as our season collapses? people are surprised that ai is not booed here, but he is the savior of our franchise, so he does get some slack. but you can be sure that there are plenty of sixer fans who hate him passionately, and not just for his on-court play. but i dont think we'd boo him, like y'all booed webber.
by the way, kobe was booed here when he won all-star mvp because he and shaq won the title on our floor the year before and broke our hearts, and kobe talked smack before he did it too. maybe thats no class, but its not totally irrational after the 2001 finals.
jaypiddler said:as for the booing, all these people on this board are shocked - just shocked! - that these awful philly fans would boo webber. gee theyre just animals in phila, they booed santa claus. but i remember when webber was booed in sacto and he talked of wanting out. that was last year shortly after he came back from his injury. if sac fans would boo the guy who brought your franchise back from extinction like that, in cwebb's house, how can you be surprised that he would be booed by phila fans as our season collapses? people are surprised that ai is not booed here, but he is the savior of our franchise, so he does get some slack. but you can be sure that there are plenty of sixer fans who hate him passionately, and not just for his on-court play. but i dont think we'd boo him, like y'all booed webber.
by the way, kobe was booed here when he won all-star mvp because he and shaq won the title on our floor the year before and broke our hearts, and kobe talked smack before he did it too. maybe thats no class, but its not totally irrational after the 2001 finals.
That's so funny cause the other night, I had a dreamt that Webber got trade to the Grizz!iheartBrad said:someone on another board brought this to my attention...but wouldn't a team like the Memphis Grizzlies be a good fit for Chris...?? Just for dicussion purposes...
LPKingsFan said:I don't see how that would work. You must mean he'd agree to some sort of buyout on his existing contract, right?
piksi said:Nobody would retire sitting on 63 mil over the next 3 seasons
TXSactoFan said:kobe iss from philadelphia rite?
jaypiddler said:as for the booing, all these people on this board are shocked - just shocked! - that these awful philly fans would boo webber. gee theyre just animals in phila, they booed santa claus. but i remember when webber was booed in sacto and he talked of wanting out. that was last year shortly after he came back from his injury. if sac fans would boo the guy who brought your franchise back from extinction like that, in cwebb's house, how can you be surprised that he would be booed by phila fans as our season collapses? people are surprised that ai is not booed here, but he is the savior of our franchise, so he does get some slack. but you can be sure that there are plenty of sixer fans who hate him passionately, and not just for his on-court play. but i dont think we'd boo him, like y'all booed webber.
Can you imagine J-Will and CWebb back together again?!? I think that would be AMAZING....definitely exciting to think about...iheartBrad said:someone on another board brought this to my attention...but wouldn't a team like the Memphis Grizzlies be a good fit for Chris...?? Just for dicussion purposes...
EmKingsFan4 said:Can you imagine J-Will and CWebb back together again?!? I think that would be AMAZING....definitely exciting to think about...
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Webber, Sixers give fans reason to cheer
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[size=-1]By PHIL JASNER[/size]
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AS IT TURNS OUT, bronchitis wasn't the only thing running rampant through the 76ers. There was a sudden epidemic of basic ball movement and teamwork. It wasn't necessarily a matter of a sense of urgency; it was more like urgent care.
The Sixers, rolling merrily past the expansion Charlotte Bobcats, 112-80, last night, sucked any lingering negativity right out of the Wachovia Center. The crowd of 19,765 applauded Chris Webber, squealed in delight at Allen Iverson's antics and drank in the wide-open, one-sided action.
The basketball-savvy fans knew they weren't watching a playoff preview, or even a game that would prove a whole lot. But the folks holding the tickets needed this elixir every bit as much as Webber, Iverson and company. The same players who, in Tuesday night's 19-point loss to a not-much-better Golden State team, looked as if they should have been wearing "Hello, My Name Is... " stickers, just as quickly looked as if they'd been together forever.
Maybe there was no true drama or tension in all of this, but there certainly were imposing numbers. Iverson, who set a franchise record with 12 turnovers in the previous game, came up with 25 points, 12 assists and four steals. Kyle Korver, wearing a protective brace on his right knee, had 17 points and seven rebounds. Webber, seeming more comfortable by the minute, had 16 points, eight rebounds and five assists. Samuel Dalembert, profiting from the Bobcats' need to guard Webber, was free to contribute 15 points and six rebounds. Dalembert and John Salmons delivered three blocks each.
Webber even laughed heartily when a reporter kiddingly pointed out that he had sat out more than 12 minutes of a second half for the second time in four games. The first time was in Atlanta on Saturday night, when it became a controversy in a one-point victory; this time, it was to enjoy watching his new teammates complete a victory by the largest margin of the season.
"Allen has to have the ball in his hands; you shouldn't change the success plan," Webber said. "I just want to have the ball in my hands as well. We laughed before the game about what we felt we could do. I have higher expectations of myself than everybody; even when people praise me, I feel like there's much more we can do. I [already] have goals for next year and the year after.
"When we win, it'll be wonderful. I love the pressure; I love the challenge. I heard the boos the last game, and maybe I'm naive or whatever, but I swear I didn't hear them toward me. I came [tonight] with an open mind. You [learn to] ignore the boos; you hear the cheers, but [my feeling is] 'You don't even know me yet. Let me show you what I can do.'
"I want to give them something to really cheer about. I'll make them get up out of their seats and throw chairs."
As the wave of reporters dispersed from his locker-room stall, Webber looked up sheepishly, smiled and said, "Maybe I shouldn't have said that part about the chairs after what happened" at the Pistons-Pacers game in Auburn Hills, Mich., in November.
Webber, Marc Jackson and Rodney Rodgers came in battling bronchitis. All three, plus Korver, hadn't gone through the morning shootaround, and Aaron McKie sat out with a fractured right pinkie. But Bobcats coach Bernie Bickerstaff, who has been around the block more than a few times, knew exactly what had taken place.
"It's real simple; we ran into a wounded tiger," Bickerstaff said. "Everybody has been all over the 76ers about the Webber situation, and their lack of compatibility. What they really don't understand is that it just doesn't happen overnight... They came out with a sense of purpose; their intensity level was good; even the mascot made a shot [from three-quarter court]. They stepped up and showed the people and the media what they are capable of doing. [That] just kind of eliminated some of the negativity that's going on. They took us out of everything we wanted to do... That's it in a nutshell."
Iverson, in sync all night with Webber, was even with him on the bench, sitting out the last 13:02.
"We played the total game," Iverson said. "We didn't leave anything on the floor tonight. We should feel good about our effort. I was saying before the game, we needed a win, [but] let's not just go out there and get a win, let's try to blow them out so I can sit out in the fourth quarter. I guess I should say that every game."
And never mind that the Bobcats are 12-47, or 0-19 on the road vs. the East, or 2-28 overall on the road. The Sixers, now 30-32, had lost in Miami on Monday night and had been embarrassed at home Tuesday night.
"After losing two games, you don't care who's coming in here, you just want to take your frustration out on that team," Iverson said. "It just happened to be the Bobcats. They haven't been having a great year... we're not having a great year. So may the best man win. This game makes me feel as good as if we beat a team at the top of the division.
"I'm not saying this is the game where everybody's going to feel Chris Webber and Allen Iverson can play together, because if we don't play well the next game, people are going to say we can't play together. That's just something me and Chris are going to have to deal with."
STIgirl said:or that one time he blatently cheated & listened in on the other teams huddle.
Team Dime said:Who cares??? Would you rather the team "cheat" and actually win or have them be good sports and lose? This is professional sports, the goal is to win, not to be a nice guy and have a good time. Plus, it was pretty damn funny!