We may need another trade.
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Thats the key Brick... I went back since this is a "PRINCETON" offense the latest stats I could pull up were the 97-98 season and I believe Pete was gone then. They were out rebounded per game but not by much.
Thats why I asked the question in the other thread is it the system or players. Actually its prolly a combo of both.
Tonights game really exposed our rebounding weakness. I don't think one player will come in and change that. Unless it was a Rodman type guy ( NO I AM NOT SAYING WE NEED TO GET RODMAN). It would have to be a rebounder only type of guy that we could pay / trade min cost for.
Thats why I asked the question in the other thread is it the system or players. Actually its prolly a combo of both.
Tonights game really exposed our rebounding weakness. I don't think one player will come in and change that. Unless it was a Rodman type guy ( NO I AM NOT SAYING WE NEED TO GET RODMAN). It would have to be a rebounder only type of guy that we could pay / trade min cost for.
I agree that rebounding and defense has to be addressed, but I don't know that a one player trade is going to fix that. I think it's an attitude & an emphasis that has to come from somewhere? It seems like we do play better defense during the playoffs. Granted, we haven't been totally successful, but we haven't been completely embarrassed the way we would be if we just weren't capable of it. IMHO we can rebound and play D if we want to, we see glimpses of it here & there. But we obviously need to do it consistently, and soon rather than later.
I just can't get too worried about our regular season record against these teams, especially because (for the most part) they are close games that could go either way. I think the team needs some work, but I don't think a trade is the answer.
I just can't get too worried about our regular season record against these teams, especially because (for the most part) they are close games that could go either way. I think the team needs some work, but I don't think a trade is the answer.
You're right, and that could go either way. Geoff is absolutely right in valuing stability -- a major component of our consistent success over the years is the stability and familiarity of our core players. Gives us a big edge. Furthermore, I can't recall any team making mutiple moves midseason and seriously retooling and then going on to win it all.
But that said, we have several weaknesses that are just GLARING. Not subtle. Not hidden or sneaky or something you can equivocate about. But just glaring and perfectly obviosu to the whole world. And really, in most of our losses, those weaknesses are exactly why we go down. Its such an obvious situation that its hard to imagine any good GM not seriously looking at ways to correct it.
But that said, we have several weaknesses that are just GLARING. Not subtle. Not hidden or sneaky or something you can equivocate about. But just glaring and perfectly obviosu to the whole world. And really, in most of our losses, those weaknesses are exactly why we go down. Its such an obvious situation that its hard to imagine any good GM not seriously looking at ways to correct it.
SacTownKid said:
Wow, I feel like a controversial Super Bowl commercial. Freedom of Speech apparently is voided in this forum as well. I was actually interested in seeing peoples opinions on trade ideas. Oh well. 
We're free to disagree and tell you so.My honest opinion: After the game, I was wondering seriously if we need another trade (Darius, OTag, or both for some kind of pure athletic rebounder/defender), but now that I've thought about it, we don't really have any problems some boxing out can't fix. It doesn't matter how high you can jump or how strong you are if you don't put your butt into your man (if that makes you smirk you are immature). The team just has to make a committment to rebounding; every player should act like every missed shot is a pass to them. Barnes and Evans do that, and it's great to see. I'd really like to see the big guys take the lead though, since that'll make the most difference.
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Alacron said:
Alright, enough with the melodrama. Do you even know what freedom of speech means? We're free to disagree and tell you so.
My honest opinion: After the game, I was wondering seriously if we need another trade (Darius, OTag, or both for some kind of pure athletic rebounder/defender), but now that I've thought about it, we don't really have any problems some boxing out can't fix. It doesn't matter how high you can jump or how strong you are if you don't put your butt into your man (if that makes you smirk you are immature). The team just has to make a committment to rebounding; every player should act like every missed shot is a pass to them. Barnes and Evans do that, and it's great to see. I'd really like to see the big guys take the lead though, since that'll make the most difference.
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We're free to disagree and tell you so.My honest opinion: After the game, I was wondering seriously if we need another trade (Darius, OTag, or both for some kind of pure athletic rebounder/defender), but now that I've thought about it, we don't really have any problems some boxing out can't fix. It doesn't matter how high you can jump or how strong you are if you don't put your butt into your man (if that makes you smirk you are immature). The team just has to make a committment to rebounding; every player should act like every missed shot is a pass to them. Barnes and Evans do that, and it's great to see. I'd really like to see the big guys take the lead though, since that'll make the most difference.
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We have some great weapons here. We have a spirited squad. I would absolutely hate to see us go down in the playoffs again because of very obvious problems that everybody knew about, everybody could see, but we were too cautious to correct.
I am not absolutely for just ANY trade -- that's desperation. But not at least taking a serious look at what's out there is IMHO letting this team down.
Considering what hot commodities rebounders are, WHY isn't Bradley getting a little more exposure? We have him; why aren't we at least giving him a chance?
I agree we need to seriously consider what's been happening but I think we also have to face the fact that nobody is going to give us anything decent without us having to cough up something pretty substantial in return.
Before that happens, I'd sure like to know we haven't overlooked something that could well be at least a partial answer.
I agree we need to seriously consider what's been happening but I think we also have to face the fact that nobody is going to give us anything decent without us having to cough up something pretty substantial in return.
Before that happens, I'd sure like to know we haven't overlooked something that could well be at least a partial answer.