Walker or Knight?

[Glenn]

The only thing I could find about his knees is from Enes himself, a doctor's son. He says he has tendenitis of his knee which makes it the same problem as Hassan. It is otherwise called "jumper's knee" and is probably more common than we hear about. He was once out 5 months with it and he's still 18. As much of a stud as he his, I have another problem with him and that is that he sets up in the low block exactly where Cousins does. Same side and never the other side just like Cousins. It's not like he has no other skills but that's he's pet move when he isn't knocking people around.

Certainly they may not be on the court together but chances are they will be on the court together quite a bit. I guess they would just alternete knocking the crap out of the defense down low. In any case, both are capable of high or low post.

I hope Whiteside turns into something because I think we are finding that a specialist like him has a place on OUR team, a team with another very skilled big guy.



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As it is difficult for me to write short notes let me add: There is no indication that there is a tendon tear with Enes. As I know no more, I'll say no more. No cartilege problems that I know of. Hassan had a tendon tear which required surgery and a very long rehab.

 

[bajaden]

If I had to choose between the two id take Walker because he's more of a leader IMO and even though he doesn't have the grades and all that he's very determined and I was really impressed by the drive and will to win he showed in the tourney. we need guys who can win.

that being said I would not take a guard in the 1st unless we don't plan to resign Marcus t. I'd much rather go biyombo and fill out our frontcourt and continue the defensive theme on this team and have him learn under Sammy for a few years. faried maybe too I love his defensive intensity.

and then in the 2nd I'd like to take a more traditional pg type with good court vision and passing ballhandling skills to backup reke and Thornton. beno is a turd and we sure need a replacement ASAP. he rarely ever passes anymore and when he does it's usually because his drive failed and he's surrounded by 3 guys so he can't get a shot off and has to toss a pass over his head to an unsuspecting target. and his defensive intensity makes me want to slap the taste out of his mouth he's the worst defender I've ever seen in the league. total ballhog and chucker with zero defensive value. I think we can replace him in the 2nd with a pg who can pass/dribble setup an offense and is a decent perimeter defender with some
intensity and heart because I cant stand another season of watching Beno run like a madman into traffic and then jump in the air and have to throw a horrible pass. or sag off his man on defense so bad that hes basically just pretending to double someone so he doesn't have to try on defense.

if drafting either one of these guys keeps beno off the court I am all for it, although i think we can replace him in the 2nd.

I disagree on Walker/Knight, but to each his own. On Beno, I think your being a bit harsh. Beno had a very good year last year, and despite not being the best defender in the NBA, his defense has improved every year he's been here. Are you aware that he shot 50% from the field last season. Thats an outstanding percentage for a jumpshooter. The only player that had a higher percentage on the team, is another player that gets knocked for missing shots, and thats JT, who shot 50.9% from the floor, and highest on the team. Beno also averaged 4.9 assists to just 1.8 turnovers, which is again outstanding. So his stats don't match your obsevations, that may see only what they want to see.

If your talking about the the Beno that first arrived here in sacramento, then you have valid points. But players do improve, and you have to change along with them.

 

[bajaden]

The only thing I could find about his knees is from Enes himself, a doctor's son. He says he has tendenitis of his knee which makes it the same problem as Hassan. It is otherwise called "jumper's knee" and is probably more common than we hear about. He was once out 5 months with it and he's still 18. As much of a stud as he his, I have another problem with him and that is that he sets up in the low block exactly where Cousins does. Same side and never the other side just like Cousins. It's not like he has no other skills but that's he's pet move when he isn't knocking people around.

Certainly they may not be on the court together but chances are they will be on the court together quite a bit. I guess they would just alternete knocking the crap out of the defense down low. In any case, both are capable of high or low post.

I hope Whiteside turns into something because I think we are finding that a specialist like him has a place on OUR team, a team with another very skilled big guy.

As far as the knee's go, he'll get a complete checkout at the combine, as well as by any team thats interested in drafting him. If he doesn't pass, then I'm sure the team will pass as well. As far as his skill level, he's not just a one note somba. He has a great jumpshot all the way out to the 3 point line. So he can score from anywhere on the floor, very similar to Cousins. He's also an excellent passer like Cousins. I watched him go head to head with Sulinger in the Nike summit game over a year ago, and he simply dominated Sulinger, scoring 34 points and grabbing 13 boards. .

The last thing I worry about is having two very talented players that can do the same thing from the same position. Thats a terrific problem to have. If we were to draft him. Number one. He's going to get limited minutes as the fourth big. Number two. More than likely he wouldn't be on the floor at the same time as Cousins anyway, and if so, it wouldn't be for extended minutes. Number three. With Cousins and his ability to play both down low on the block and also out in the high post, I wouldn't see a problem with the two of them on the floor together, other than defensively, and that would be a match up decision.

So if his knee's check out, I don't see a problem. A lot of his game has been compared to Scola, and thats not a bad thing. He's a tough kid.

 

[Glenn]

I like Beno, for what it's worth, and as he has one little pull up jumper he seldom misses and he choses his shots wisely, I have few complaints. He'll be on the bench and I don't expect perfection from someone else or he'd be a starter. He's a solid, dependable ball player who can score 20 if need be.

 

[Glenn]

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Read the last three lines. Enes says he has no problems now. If it is tendonitis, kind of an occupational problem, it wouldn't scare me away. He says he has had no problems in the last couple years. Remember 2 years ago he was about 6'9" and 250. Hard to believe and it leads me to believe he'll grow to a legit 7'. That two inches just means he's harder to shoot over as I don't think his offenseve game will change much. He's a load.

Just to be clear, it's the same problem as Hassan has except one difference, Hassan had a tear. Big difference as to treatment and in Hassan's case, it means he needs to take care of his knees in the future and may not have a recurrence. Kids don't know how to take care of their pains and sometimes are reluctant to mention them.

 

[Glenn]

As far as the knee's go, he'll get a complete checkout at the combine, as well as by any team thats interested in drafting him. If he doesn't pass, then I'm sure the team will pass as well. As far as his skill level, he's not just a one note somba. He has a great jumpshot all the way out to the 3 point line. So he can score from anywhere on the floor, very similar to Cousins. He's also an excellent passer like Cousins. I watched him go head to head with Sulinger in the Nike summit game over a year ago, and he simply dominated Sulinger, scoring 34 points and grabbing 13 boards. .

The last thing I worry about is having two very talented players that can do the same thing from the same position. Thats a terrific problem to have. If we were to draft him. Number one. He's going to get limited minutes as the fourth big. Number two. More than likely he wouldn't be on the floor at the same time as Cousins anyway, and if so, it wouldn't be for extended minutes. Number three. With Cousins and his ability to play both down low on the block and also out in the high post, I wouldn't see a problem with the two of them on the floor together, other than defensively, and that would be a match up decision.

So if his knee's check out, I don't see a problem. A lot of his game has been compared to Scola, and thats not a bad thing. He's a tough kid.

Agree. I think I covered that in insinuating and maybe saying that they each could switch off in a high-low set up because each can shoot. I'm thinking ahead to the post Dally era. I never thought I'd see another Cousins but this kid looks like he will get bigger and I am not saying fatter. He's a freaking giant. I haven't watched Irving or Williams but they must be spectacular to take the attention off Kanter.

There is more on Youtube than just the all star game.

I look to your judgment on young guys as I don't pay attention but when we drafted Cousins, I had a reaction unlike any other pick we have made. I actually cried and I have never done that over a simple draft pick. I usually save that kind of reaction for an NBA championship. I thought he was the best and thought a miracle had happened.

Obviously I care if a pg is great and can do all the waterbug movement and shooting and distributing stuff but there is nothing like a big man and they don't come along often enough.

Which coach said "you can't teach height?" He might also have said "you can't teach power."

(Guess who I want?)

 

[Entity]

why would we even be worried about PG with Evans, Thorton, and Beno. I mean i know he would replace Jeter but how much time will he get. Once we aquired and Evans was healthy Jeter got DNP. trade the pick along with one of our SF for a superior SF.

 

[bajaden]

http://vaughtsviews.com/?p=6354

Read the last three lines. Enes says he has no problems now. If it is tendonitis, kind of an occupational problem, it wouldn't scare me away. He says he has had no problems in the last couple years. Remember 2 years ago he was about 6'9" and 250. Hard to believe and it leads me to believe he'll grow to a legit 7'. That two inches just means he's harder to shoot over as I don't think his offenseve game will change much. He's a load.

Just to be clear, it's the same problem as Hassan has except one difference, Hassan had a tear. Big difference as to treatment and in Hassan's case, it means he needs to take care of his knees in the future and may not have a recurrence. Kids don't know how to take care of their pains and sometimes are reluctant to mention them.

We'll find out Kanter's current height at the combine, which by the way starts the day after we find out where were picking in the draft. It runs may 18 through the 22nd. Over a year ago Kanter was measured at the Nike summint game in shoes. He measured out at 6'10.5", and he had a wingspan of 7'1". By comparison, Cousins measured at 6'10.75" in shoes with a 7'5.75" wingspan. So other than wingspan, they're pretty similar size wise.

By the way, YI PI!!!!!!!! Dallas trounced the Lakers today 122 to 86. and PEJA, WAS ON FIRE!!!! Peja had 21 points going 7 for 7 from the floor and 6 for 6 from behind the 3 pt line. Talking about depth, Jason Terry the other big killer off the bench had 32 points and was 9 for 10 from behing the arc. Its a happy day in Sactown.

 

[hiero]

Enes Kanter is not going to do any predraft workouts.... thats very suspicious.. if he checks out medically I'd love him, but he seems a bit fishy

 

[bajaden]

Enes Kanter is not going to do any predraft workouts.... thats very suspicious.. if he checks out medically I'd love him, but he seems a bit fishy

I hadn't heard that. Whats the source? In any event I'm sure he'll be at the combine. If he decides to skip the combine, his draft status will drop like a rock. The reason I'm curious about pre-draft workouts, is that a lot of the players will have a workout, but not one in competition with other players. Its not a golden rule, but some agents figure it their guy is a top 5 pick, he has everything to lose by possibly being shown up by some guy thats projected much lower in the draft.

So usually, they just have the player come in, jump through hoops etc. and check him out physically. Now if he skips everything, then red flags go up. We have to remember that this kid hasn't played orginized ball for over a year. However he was allowed to scrimage with the Kentucky when they practiced.

 

[Jaylee209]

Dude's name is KNIGHT!!! He's perfect for the KINGS!!!